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Jacksonville Jaguars fall to Arizona Cardinals 31-17, Jaguars fall to 0-2


They came out ugly, offered us a moment of hope, and then broke our heart again as the Jacksonville Jaguars fell to the Arizona Cardinals 31-17.  Cardinals QB Kurt Warner set an NFL record 92% completion percentage, the Jaguars pass rush could not stop the offense, and Mike Sims-Walker emerged as a real honest-to-goodness wide receiver.

This was a game where the Jaguars made countless mental mistakes, penalties and poor decisions, and generally speaking looked awful.  The Offensive Line could NOT protect David Garrard, the only time that David got anything done was when the Cardinals fell into their prevent defense at the end of the game.  I'm not going to bang the Fire Del Rio drum just yet, but there were some discipline issues, particularly when emotions were high, that were problematic.  Early play was sloppy, there was no rhythm, and after Scobee's field goal was blocked and returned for a touchdown, the mental focus was lost for some time.

This was a game where we were teased, there were moments where you thought that the Jaguars were just starting to get something done, but dropped passes and a late interception ended the game.  Interestingly, the Cardinals targeted the Jaguars linebackers more than anything else with screens and short passes.  Linebacker is an area of strength for this team, at least in theory, so it'll be interesting to see what the tape tells us about the group.

Player of the Game: Mike Sims-Walker: 106 yards, 1 TD, 1 tackle.  Mike Walker is a real wide receiver now.  He's a bright star to admire looking forward.  He's a young leader on the roster and someone to look forward to each week.

More analysis to come.

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Man that was quick

This match was a rollercoster, and was part times in there where I was thinking what the hell I’M doing. But in the end it was bit better.
O-line is concern. Pass rush is concern. Mentality is an issue.
I want to see Dillard and Mike Thomas next week.
I hope no good playing playmaker injured.
That blocked filed goal was a killer. Warner stats were another killer for us.
Houston is on the horizon, then the Titans, then the Seahawks. If something not get quick fixed, the 0-5 is more and more a possibility-sadly!

And one more thing: Patience please, don’T wanna fire almost everyone around the team this week!!!!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 20, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

You might not be beating the “Fire Del Rio” drum yet, but I am. This coach has had six years to turn this team into a winning product and the only thing we have to show for it is one won playoff game. I think it’s fair to say that Jack has had his opportunity to show what he can do. I think JDR would be a great defensive mind somewhere, but head coach is not his forte.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I just don’t want every criticism of mine against Del Rio or Play Calling to be discounted because of any perceived anti-Del Rio agenda.

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by River City Rage on Sep 20, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope...

not on my part. I posted something last week about firing JDR. I think this teams has alot of talent and I think it needs to be brought along by someone else. The conservative play-calling coupled with bad defensive play and O-line deficiencies needs to be fixed!! Jack is simply not the man here anymore.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I'm not sure I see the talent

And I have serious concerns about the direction of the team and discipline, but play-calling does not fall on Jack. Jack’s contributions to the offense consist of deciding to go for it on 4th down all the time, which is not conservative at all. So should we be mad at Dirk Koetter? I just don’t know. Why is the offensive line performing so poorly? I thought Andy Heck was supposed to be awesome? The pass rush is completely annihilating any opportunities to go down field with the ball.

My mind is just everywhere right now.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

@MoveThoseChains

Jack might not be calling the plays, but he is ultimately responsible for the play-calling. And the play-calling is conservative. We need to make the opponent respect the deep ball more. As someone stated in another post, MoJo can’t be our only weapon. We know that MSW can get downfield and we know Holt can stretch the field a little, so let’s utilize those guys. Lets stop getting “scared” in the red zone and actually try and score a touchdown instead of dumping off to MoJo on screen passes or running dive and counter plays. That stuff is predictable and needs to stop!

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stand by what I said

Jack isn’t the one blocking, and Jack isn’t the one calling the plays. Once the Cards were up big and eased up on the pass rush, then the deeper passing game magically opened.

I also chuckle because when the Jaguars were calling passing plays in the first half, everyone was like, “Why aren’t the Jaguars running the ball?! Give the ball to MJD! He’s your best player!” I guess the coaches just can’t win.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

players not plays

yep yep yep

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jack is the leader of this team...

And if he can’t get this shit product together he needs to go. He has done nothing here since he has been here. I have tried to be positive about the situation but I am done. I know to expect NOTHING of the Jags. Here is what I have learned.

1) Ticket situation will not get any better.
2) David Garrard is a great BACKUP QB, not a franchise QB
3) First pick in the draft is QB, followed by Defense Defense Defense
4) Not sold on MJD being a feature back.
5) Rashad Jennings is not the answer at 2nd HB.
6) Rookies will be fine.
7) Harvey is not the answer at DE.
8) Jack Del Rio MUST go.
9) Fire Dirk Koetter. It’s time to start over.
10) We will go 5-11 at best and 2-14 at worst.
11) Rebuilding will take at least 2 more years, unless we get a Franchise QB.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you on all 11 points

When does the Madness stop

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Screw myself

I skipped over #4, I do believe MJD is the feature back but would a good RB behind to siphon 5-10 carries a game.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Food for thought…

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may be on to something, Slvrgun

Here’s what I learned:
1) Where sunblock to the games.
2) Sunburns hurt
3) Losing sucks
4) Go Jaguars!!!

Vae Victis!

by viator on Sep 20, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a lucky man

I’m a red man.

Vae Victis!

by viator on Sep 20, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a P.K.

A Pale Kid. I envy the natural sunblock.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

@Slvrgun

I agree with you on some of your points but not all of them.

1. People should support this team no matter what! As much as I want to see JDR’s ass on the unemployment line, I won’t stop supporting this team.
2. David has proven he can pass the football when he has time. I am not convinced at all that the madness on the field is his fault. Protect him and he will win some games.
3. We do need to draft a QB for the future.
4. MJD is a beast. Not sure why you don’t think he’s a feature back.
5. RJ needs more development. Greg Jones would be a better 2nd in my opinion.

6. Eugene Moore and E. Britton are gaining valuable experience in these games. Be patient with them.
7. You’re right….Harvey is not the answer.
8. JDR should resign and save Wayne some time.
9. Dirk is a good coordinator. His O-line coordinator needs work.
10. If the Jags win one game this year i’ll be surprised.
11. Rebuilding will take 2 years even if we did draft a QB. Tebow is not the savior!

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agent 007

Please explain to me how the offensive coordinator, as the captain of the USS Jaguars Offense, isn’t responsible for the offensive line play and general malaise of the offense, but Jack should be fired for the overall malaise of the offense.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because

The offensive coordinator isn’t ultimately responsible for the play of the team, MoveTheChains!! When Dick Jauron fired his O-coordinator in Buffalo he did so because he was not getting what he thought he should out of the offense. The reason why that is significant is because the owner of the team told Dick and the GM that their heads would roll if the team did not play better. These coaches know they will be held responsible if things go south with the team. We could fire the O-coordinator, sure, that’s easy. But the fact remains that JDR has had two or three offensive coordinators since he’s been here and nothing has worked. So as an owner, after looking at those facts, who would you fire? Another offensive coordinator?

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know, I'm still being patient

I do know that no one is getting fired right now, and that this is the 2nd game of the season, and by these standards Jeff Fisher, who most of us respect, should also be fired right now immediately.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bad example...

Jeff Fischer’s team actually had a winning record last year. And I bet my entire paycheck the Titans will be back winning before the Jags will. They actually have a coach who doesn’t make excuses.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6. Eugene

really disappointed me in this game. He’s the one that got blown up on the blocked kick. BTW, who the heck put him so close to the LS. He doesn’t have a guard like body, nor is his game like that of one.
7. Harvey, is what he is, but we need a lot more.
10. What are you smoking?

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1) Ticket situation is horrible and will be horrible, my dad and I were the only two in our row which is just sad.
2) 2nd string QB? Are you kidding me? David Garrard is a great qb with with two rookie tackles and an average recieving corps. Give him a break, today’s loss is not because of him, trust me. We should be lucky to have Dave leading our team.
3) In Gene We Trust, whoever is the best for us when its our turn will be picked. Yes we need a qb to develop but maybe not first round.
4) How are you not sold? MJD played outstanding against the colts and had a solid day today, he is the face of this franchise, you better be sold on him.
5) Rashad doesn’t have many carries, so where are you pulling this out of. I’m sure you were prob on Team Rashad in training camp, so why are you questioning him now?
6) The rookies will be fine,yes. Mike Thomas should be activated for next week….hopefully.
7) Give Harvey a break, with the way they have been using him, don’t expect too many sacks. He is a solid player.
8) I am so sick of hearing people rag on Jack. Del Rio is a great coach and blaming everything on him is just wrong and easy for you to do.
9) Maybe so. I, also would like to see a more vertical game. The field goals in the redzone are killing us.
10) Calm down, its week 2. A 9-7 season is not out of the question. Have some faith in your team, geez.
11) To get completely back to where we were, top 10 in the league, prob yeah……but not if that franchise qb youre talking about is tebow! But seriously, have faith in Dave, he is a good qb.

and a note to all you BCC readers, quit doubting this team, placing blame in the wrong places and yelling to cut everyone’s head. It is week 2 in the NFL, enjoy the season.

by fortzj on Sep 20, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

for that man

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no problem man

After reading some of that stuff, I just had to log in and put my 2 cents in.

by fortzj on Sep 20, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Make JDR a manager at Shoe Carnival.

by wldtrky on Sep 20, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm tired of their in-game shenanigans

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Gene we Trust and JDR

Arizona was a tough match up, they needed to make some adjustments. And it looks like they did.

Well it is only week 2. Hopefully we will do better Week 3.

Oh we play the Texas, and they just beat Tennessee.

So does JDR still think we are dumb, and have we lost our brains for just keeping it real about our inconsistencies?

By the way, In Gene we trust (Right).

Yo.

by Dale J. on Sep 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was hot at the stadium

I was delirious after the FG got blocked, its all a blur from there.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hoping the Draft comes quicker this year

Instead of getting worse picks it seems like we’ll be getting better ones.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just got back from the game, and...

That was one of the ugliest Jags games I have ever seen. I don’t know how it looked on television, but Eben Britton and Eugene Monroe played like trash. Absolute TRASH. I am usually optimistic, but they played terribly.

by aibtureman on Sep 20, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It looked worse on TV. On TV it appeared half of the fans left. The Jags looked terrible!!!!

by Pickle on Sep 20, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

should read…..half of the fans left at halftime.

They showed a blimp view and that was UGLY!!!!

by Pickle on Sep 20, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone behind us drew a Face on the seat and left

if only seats were fans

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me it was worse at the stadium

lol

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think the most important lesson

… is that we actually DO have an offensive weapon other than Mojo. And, we need to use him… often. I understand that David was getting major major pressure all game, but we are dead if we continue to use Mojo for 90% of our offense while ignoring players like sims-Walker and Holt.

Defense is a major concern. We leak yards like crazy – run or pass, we can’t seem to stop anyone.

by KeithG on Sep 20, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

A new head coach will fix all of this.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Head Coach

….is like the Captain of a ship. He is ultimately held responsible for everything that happens on his ship. Jack needs to be held responsible for these bad performances.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To expand on this

I had to watch the Bengals game today in my area. With 4 minutes left and up by 7, the Bengals faced 4th and inches on Green Bay’s 35. Marvin Lewis elected to take a delay of game and punt rather than going for the morale-killing and possibly game-clinching first down. I can guarantee JDR would’ve gone for the 1st down there. It would’ve been a tremendous call, taking guts and not being conservative. And this is why JDR is a good coach, and Marvin Lewis is not.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think JDR is a good coach...

but not a good head coach. I think he’ll be great somewhere else as a defensive coordinator or Linebackers coach, but just not a very productive head coach. The proof is in the pudding. Win some playoff games and those opinions will change. Keep losing and his ass will be in the unemployment line.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who said the....

…expectations were not to win playoff games this year? I know we’re in a rebuilding mode, but we should never accept anything less than great! I don’t care if every swinging dick on the team is a rookie, I would expect to win the dang Super Bowl! Why? Because these are professional football players and they get paid to go out and play hard every freakin’ week.

Lets stop making excuses for these guys. They need to do better and if we are “rebuilding” then maybe “rebuilding” needs to extend to the head coach position. Point blank, period!!!

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh...we all did

This is a rebuilding year. What, the Lions should’ve expected to go 16-0 this season? There’s being an incredibly optimistic fan, and then there’s setting realistic expectations. Not all 32 teams go into week 1 expecting to win the Super Bowl.

Rebuilding = less than great. I mean…it just can’t be any clearer than that. When everyone is willing to take 7-9 or 8-8, that’s not a great team.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said...

Or even thought that we should not expect to be in the playoffs! Like I said previously, I always expect to be there no matter what. And who said rebuilding=less than great? I thought rebuilding meant out with the old and in with the new…?

If you accept mediocrity that usually means you will get that!

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

You expected the Jaguars to be in the playoffs with rookies at both tackle positions, a defense that offers less resistance than Poland against Germany, rookies at key positions everywhere, and what you allege is a terrible head coach running the team?

When I walk outside my door, I don’t expect to see Megan Fox waiting for me, and this is just as unrealistic.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats funny, I like your references

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah..

I do have that expectation because these guys are professionals and I expect nothing but the best out of professionals. If I was a coach, I wouldn’t tell my team, “just do the best you can this year, guys. we don’t expect much from you”. That’s telling them mediocrity is accepted and they can use that as an excuse when they don’t win.

Being competitive means actually giving your opponent some damn competition. Rolling over on excuses is bullshit!

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, we're not coaches, buddy

Of course a coach is going to tell his players the expectation is to win and blah blah and motivate them, but unless we as fans are drinking serious kool-aid, we get the luxury of being realistic.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is probably why..

no one is attending the games because they all feel the same way I do. The product on the field needs to be better and until that happens or JDR is sent home no one will buy tickets.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to hear what you're saying

But it just sounds like more searching for excuses not to buy tickets.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sorry

but i was at the game today…why in hell does would anyone want to buy tickets for that team? we are a joke

by jlana24 on Sep 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 5 years or less we become contenders again

Any bets?

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't wait to hear

Terry’s recap of the game.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what to say

With Hayward out for the season, I knew that things would be tough for the defense. It’s a common theme around BCC that we want the defensive line coach gone.

To call the Jaguars’ attack a pass rush is an insult to pass rushes everywhere. It’s plain sad. Was Shack really this bad? Did he really misjudge Harvey and Groves this badly? Why did the Jaguars mortgaged an entire draft for two pass rushers than can’t rush the pass? Calais Campbell would’ve been better, it seems.

And the offensive line….I don’t understand. It’s a miracle Garrard is in one piece and somehow managed nearly 300 yards and 2 touchdowns. If Andy Heck is a genius, now would be a great time for him to show that.

In Gene We Trust.

by MoveThoseChains on Sep 20, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We should of fired that clown earlier

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tra Thomas...

is needed at LT. Eugene Monroe needs to ride the pine and see what it feels like to underachieve. Maybe then he will play better. And don’t say this is harsh. Trial by fire. I agree. Part of the game is being benched for playing terribly, and Monroe needs to feel that part of the trial.

by aibtureman on Sep 20, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it was the heat...

but he looked terrible. Tra Thomas NOW. And to answer your question, yes, he looked worse than last week.

by aibtureman on Sep 20, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garrard got sacked more

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Time to cut lose the anti 1st rounders

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 things

I’M GONNA BLOW UP if anyone disses Garrard for his performance. For the 100th time, the guy makes magic happen with nothing. Pressure every other play from all sides and he still has a better than average game. Our line sucks, period.

Put Tra in.

by harveyismyboy on Sep 20, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Praying for a QB and Eric Berry

Hope God hears my plea

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember before Moss/Welker they had nobody!!!

Brady makes it happen and will make it happen even without Moss/Welker! Wake up people, great QB’s make WR’s elite!!! I don’t believe Holt is garbage, but did he have a huge game today, NO!!

by keeftan on Sep 20, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great QB's make WR's elite

then why weren’t Brady’s receivers elite? Branch was one of Brady’s best receivers before he got Moss and etc. And when healthy, he looked just as good with the Seahawks.

When Garrard threw 2 potential TD’s to bring the game within one score from a 31-3 deficit he did what he could in my mind. Those were the same passes that Brady threw to win the Bills game. What’s the difference? Well Ben Watson caught his passes. And as far as I can tell, Brady didn’t so much as lead his team to TD today, and the Jets didn’t even have Jenkins. And Brady has Wes Welker. He has Randy Moss. He has a better OL….etc
And Garrard had a better passing percentage, and ~100 more yards, not to mention what Garrard was able to do with his feet.
You can say Brady was hesitant because of his knee, but he was taking some hits and he was holding on to the ball. That wasn’t his problem. HE JUST DIDN’T HAVE IT.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't take my word for it

just watch.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d812c22c9/WK-2-David-Garrard-highlights

And this clip doesn’t even include the dropped TD passes to Nate Hughes. And yes, Leinart was playing, but I see plenty of starters playing for AZ on both sides of the ball. I see DRC playing till the end of the game. I saw Darnell Dockett still chasing Garrard late in the game. Yes Garrard had time to throw ball, but that’s what we are supposed to expect from the OL. Garrard was throwing lasers under pressure. He was throwing in super tight windows. He was going through his progressions. He was making people miss. He wasn’t just tossing the ball up for grabs even though the team was way behind. And no the Cards were not playing soft coverage. Many of those late passes were going over defenders heads. You throw under prevent defenses if that’s what they are showing you. They blitzed until the last down of the game. And believe me, the Cards were starting to worry(Warner was warming up). That means they were probably playing pretty hard on D to avoid bringing Warner back in. Leinart has nothing to do with this game.

Sorry for my rant. :)

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Who is this DRC?

District of Republican China?

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good video

Shows clearly how much pressure David was under a lot of the time… and what he can do with the ball whten he has time.

by KeithG on Sep 21, 2009 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s could be a rough game next week against the Texans… versus the Titans, Matt Schaub was 25/39 for 357 yds and 4 tds; Andre Johnson was 10 for 149 yds and two td’s…

let’s pick apart this Cardinals game for 24 hrs, then move the hell on to the next game? (i know it won’t happen, but… whatever)

Sean Jax Beach Bum

by cuffs007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it*

Sean Jax Beach Bum

by cuffs007 on Sep 20, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We play Houston next game right?

I’m shuddering…..It be an upset if we beat them.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the funniest thing about this game ...

is it came down to a few plays…

1. a missed pass interference call…
2. turns into a 17-3 game instead of a 10-6 game…
3. and as far demoralized as we were (there was about 8,000 fans left at this point) if nate hughes catches an EASY TD to bring us within one TD with 4 min (and 3 TO) left…we have a shot!!

by jlana24 on Sep 20, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's usually what happens in every game.

Doesn’t change the fact that the Jaguars are Garbage. I hate saying it but its true.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the past 6 years what have we heard...

“We have a lot of work to do”

“We just didn’t execute”

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

also ...

i forgot about a troy williamson fumble…that was another TD lost

by jlana24 on Sep 20, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After being there and drinking alot

I’m officially on the Fire Del Rio bandwagon

"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."-Bill Hicks

by FSBlueApocalypse on Sep 20, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was Terry with you John at the game?

What was his reaction? I guess, he will not praise the team this week as he did last week…

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 20, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

45K attendance.....huge swathes of seats empty.

Detroit has an entire industry collapse, the backbone of its economy and yet the Lions an 0-16 team sells out?

Jacksonville is my home town but it is not a good city for the NFL. The economy excuse is BULLSHIT.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

People make excuses for not going. Very embarrassing.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All it means is they don't care for the team.

That is what it means.

We are at the precipice. Do we continue to pretend like we are an NFL city or do we just state exactly what the problem is: there are simply not enough hardcore fans.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is nowhere I'd rather be than the stadium on Sunday

people just don’t get it, it’s fun whether you win or lose, I still have a good time.

by keeftan on Sep 20, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you not get it?

There aren’t enough of people like you in this city. It’s sad but true.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do get it Slvrgun, believe me...

I have understood far too long this fact, that the city does not have enough fans that would rather watch a game live then from their living room. The fly over, the D Line, The Roar, The noise, The “DRRRREEEEEWWWWWW”, The National Anthem, the fan’s, the tailgaiting, the beer, the anticipation that your going to see something special on “Any Given Sunday!” I GET IT!!! Other’s don’t! Unfortunately there are too many that don’t get it!

by keeftan on Sep 20, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you're a fan because?

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why'd we let them wear their white jerseys?

I know there’s this movement to make teal our color… but the heat is supposed to be our advantage.

In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...

by JagsNguyen on Sep 20, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arizona is hot as hell all year.

The dark jersey/light jersey argument is moot at this point. They are all made out of heat reflecting material.

by Slvrgun on Sep 20, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll believe the heat reflecting

once they let me wear one for a day… but that’ll never happen.

In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...

by JagsNguyen on Sep 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Believe it

As a physics guy, I know a few tricks they could use to do it. Just think of it as the skin on a stealth plane, and then take it to a micro level change the structure a little and voila. (That’s one way)
Another way is with lenses, and films etc…

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Supposedly

according to their studies, the new material they are using in the Jag Jerseys, I think called Cool Black, it doesn’t matter.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 20, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A quote from Maurice Jones-Drew after today's game

"Being new has nothing to do with it," Jones-Drew said when it was suggested to him the defeat was largely the result of the Jaguars having so many new players on their roster. "It’s our job to put up points. If we can’t do it, then you know how this business is. We better start doing it before they start making changes."

Those changes should start at the top.

by Agent 007 on Sep 20, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you know what bothers me

(and I asked Vic about it, I’M curiuos if he answer it)
Who is the better passrusher who is a real threat:
Calais Campbell (50th selection 2008) or Derrick Harvey (8th pick of the draft 2008, traded away for him almost half of last years picks.)? Yeah, Shack Harris picked good guys (MJD, Mathis, Durant, Ingram) but the way he screw up this team is simply devastating. I know the anger grows against Jack Del Rio, but let’s be honest, if the you know what don’t work you could have the best designed playcallings in the world, it will not work.
As Vic likes to says: IT’s players not plays! And if you not have players, well you’re in trouble… Like the Jaguars pass rush now…

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 20, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT,

nothing beats the draft. If we have 3 years of good Gene Smith Drafts we can probably contend with other teams.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its simple.

Sell enough tickets to make it to the 2011 draft and all will be fine. Thats the solution, but thats also the problem. Accept this season for what it is. Be optomistic, but don’t feed yourself a lie about the quality of players we have on our team. You dont have to be some heralded sports analyst to see that the Jags do not, and have not been winning individual matchups.

Bottom line is we dont have an identity right now. Not one of you can say what we do well as a team……aside from kick field goals. In 07’ we rode Fre d&Maurice, 05’ it was defense…..Yes we have good linebackers, but in a traditional 4-3 scheme the Line and Secondary take prescedence over LB’s. The offense is hodgepodge right now trying to take form.

On another note help might be on the way. I think the Navy is supposed to be relocating an Air Craft Carrier to NAS I believe. (not sure when) but with that carrier comes about 5000 people with about at least a third bringing families along. That could help a little, some of them will attend a jags game.

by floridaboiterk on Sep 20, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thank God for the Navy

but i wonder, wouldn’t they already be other team’s fans?

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live in NY, but I was able to watch the game with the NFL Ticket...

The Jaguars just can’t get ANY breaks…

The Cardinals first drive had a fumble that was recovered by the Cards on the one yard line…next play TD.

Rashean Mathis, who’s having a probowl season already, hits Anquan Boldin on the Cards next play and causes a fumble…the ball goes out of bounds…Cards score a FG

The Zebras misses a blatant PI call on Holt…next play block FG returned for TD for the Cards…

The Jags are about to score and Troy Williamson gets hurt after he fumbles the ball…

It’s just not a lucky day for the Jags today. We all know the rookie T’s are going to struggle; having to play the Colts and Cardinals back to back (meaning; high flying offense in which they score in bunches) forces you to throw more (Garrard had 40+ attempts).

I don’t think its time to hit the panic button yet…The Jaguars just have to get some breaks and they need to protect DG more.

I hear a lot of pull Monroe for Tra Thomas. FYI Tra has a bad back that has slowed him down in TC. Trust me, Monroe is there best option. I doubt Tra could survive the entire game. He’s a safety blanket at this point in his career.

Welcome to Camelot

by ArtoriusG on Sep 20, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you're right

we had so many opportunities to win this game, we just couldn’t catch a break. Luck is a part of the game and today we just didn’t have much of it. If a few of those breaks go our way, especially the no call on the pass interference with holt that led to the blocked fg, we could all be in a better mood about today.

by fortzj on Sep 20, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Force was not with us today.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal

by TheTealDeal on Sep 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my finger is pointed straight at our WR's

I actually think most of us have become desensitized by so much bad WR play in years past:

Strike 1: On the drop by Hughes, Garrard evaded the pressure, ends up throwing off one foot mid-tackle, between two defenders, and hits Hughes mid stride in the end zone… and the ball bounces off his HEAD. His HEAD. HIS HEAD!!!

If they guy wore a kickers mask we’d might have had touchdown!

Strike 2: The receivers gave up improvising while Garrard still had the ball. The death look he sent down the right side of the field was memorable. I was so pissed watching it. I’m not sure who the recipient of that glare was but he deserved a boot in the ass. I hope one of our coaches gave it to him when the camera wan’t looking.

Strike 3: Sure the games out of reach by then, but our darling MSW jogs – HE JOGS – back to a pass, all but pulling up while letting the db blow by him for the int.

And these are just the three plays of many that stand out to me the most, there were at least a handful more. These WR’s are mailing it in, lack of ability is problem, but giving up on plays and jogging and/or watching where there’s a live ball? This is why you fire people. Cut a WR, fire a coach, I don’t care, but the anger should be on the WR core today. The line still get’s a pass because I at least think they are trying, I don’t buy that anymore with the receivers on our roster, they need to dragged through the mud.

I’m not saying we have to panic, but it’s getting close to send a message time, and this is where mine is heading. A nice little WR contract we can throw under a bus to get peoples attention. I’d serve notice tomorrow, and dare them not to show up in Game 3.

Garrard would have been at about 350 yards, 3 TD, and no interceptions if our receivers just weren’t embarrassing, I’m not even saying good, just not embarrassingly bad. He’s a good QB, and we’re lucky he’s back there because he’s a great fit for a bad line, he’s professional, and just skilled enough to make a game of it most nights. Hopefully we get good enough to start making it easy for him. Until then, he’s a nice big mobile guy who can take the hits he’s bound to take with our line.

by alsonot on Sep 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every year is a rebuilding year

Good or bad, no team can live off the year before.

We were great in 2007 and awful in 2008, but all that matters is how you look on each new Sunday (Monday nighters are a dream at this point). Based on our first two games of this year we need to start taking chances. Simplify the play book and include more downfield shots, try an exotic scheme, use more gimmicks, it doesn’t matter what we do as long as it’s not what we’re doing right now. Defense may win games, but offense is what sells tickets. You can’t expect people to pay to sit in 90 degree weather while they drink $6 beers for 4 hours watching MJD run it up the gut while Garrard throws 5 yard dump passes.

by Jags-Fan-In-Chicago on Sep 20, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know about about wide open

because I believe he was sandwiched between a LB and a DB.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 21, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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