I heard Peter King wrote about us
by Tkopa on Sep 7, 2009 9:14 PM EDT
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Now I don't mean to put him down. But I hope Mr. King will remember, Jaguar fans don't need him around anyhow.
The next time "Sweet Home Alabama" plays at the stadium, I will consider it our response to Mr. King's odious view of Jacksonville.
Since when did this arrogant elitism invade the NFL? I think it started in 1990's when the NFL found out it could hold both television and taxpayers for ransom. When CBS dropped the NFL, Fox picked it up along with a large number of CBS affiliates. Cities across the United States backstabbed each other for the privilege of having an NFL team. Just owning an NFL franchise enabled a businessman to earn hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue and appreciating value without regard for the quality of the product on the field. After all, they owned a piece of America's National Pastime and were entitled to it, right?
Times have changed and the NFL, including their sycophant lapdogs like Mr. King, need to wake up. There are no cities with an extra billion dollars laying around begging for an NFL team. Once Los Angeles is fed, and they have had three teams before, that is it. No where left to go in America. Well, how about London and Europe? If you can't sell America's past time to Americans, don't count on the Europeans to save you. Earth to the NFL, you are beginning to annoy your fan base by sending out petulant warnings through the likes of Peter King.
I have heard a lot of reasons why the Jaguars are not selling out this year. I will tell you what they are and there are three of them.
First, when 20% of the NFL players have a criminal record and some act out badly, decent people are turned off. They choose not to enable that behavior with their money or time. The NFL knows it has a serious problem and is working on it. They better.
Second, the people of Jacksonville and most other cities enjoy watching a group of men team together to bring glory to the city. They respond very well to that. What we witnessed last year was a group of me first, where's my money paycheck grabbers. Instead of football, this city was treated to a weekly NFL version of the Jerry Springer show. The professional people I know who can afford tickets walked away in disgust. I don't blame them and Wayne Weaver, Gene Smith, and Jack Del Rio understand it. Those people who walked away will be back when the right attitude shows up.
Third, when 25% of the households are underwater in their mortgages through no fault of their own and are now scrambling to back away from financial ruin, an NFL ticket seems like a luxury. They want to be there for the team and will try, but their family and financial security comes first. They will be back in a couple of years but right now I think they are making the right decision.
So if holding to a set of morals and ensuring your family is taken care of makes a city seem "unworthy" to people like Mr. King, so be it. Jacksonville is a fine city and to think an NFL team is its symbol only trivializes this city to the point of insulting it. Jacksonville will be ok, I am not sure the NFL will be until it reconnects with its roots quits looking down on the people who support it.
Economic times always improve. The Jaguars under Wayne Weaver and Gene Smith will come back. But when we do Mr. King, you are not invited to participate. Jacksonville doesn't need you around anyhow.
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I Love Jacksonville
Lived here all 15 years of my life, and have loved every minute of it. Too often I hear people talk of the dullness, or trouble within the city. I love Duval; and the swagger the area has.
Hopefully I’ll find a career that will allow me to live in Jacksonville for the rest of my life.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I disagree.
I love the Jaguars but Jackonville is a pretty shitty town. All the bright spots are located on one side of town; huge disparities in wealth; terrible school system, extremely high crime rate, overdevelopment and it is increasingly become even more spread out, too many conservative confederate flag waving loons, no real big businesses, city leader (looking at you Peyton) are clowns, cost of living skyrocketing, traffic horrible, etc.
Fishing spots are good, I lived in a wide open expanse of land on the North Northside where it quiet and peaceful, clean air, decent shopping areas, large lots, but the city as a whole is a pure crapfest…
But I love my Jags. I would never want to stay in Jacksonville though. Not many jobs for a Molecular Ecologist/Environmental Scientist.
Molecular Ecologist/Environmental Scientist
It looks like you picked the wrong line of work then. Name one major city that does not have disperities in wealth? You have to earn it….looks like you are one of those spread the wealth kind of people. To steal a line from Tkopa, “we don’t need you around anyhow”
For the Sake of Peace
My father always said “Don’t argue about Religion, Politics, and Sports.” We already break one of my dad’s cardinal rules here, let’s not break 2.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Your first post!
We like Slvrgun here, so may I recind your offer for him to leave?
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Why
What is about him you like, the way he puts down conservatives or the way he disparages the city, our schools and our leaders? Let him defend his own comments.
This isn't his whole body of work.
I have found Jacksonville to be the most wonderful place on earth. I strike out against those that kick it. But Slvrgun has earned respect for other posts. i am only sorry his experience in Jax hasn’t been the same as mine.
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OK...I'll give him a break
May be he had a bad day at the Molecular Ecologist/Environmental Scientist office. The other Molecular Ecologist/Environmental Scientists were probably mean to him at lunch. Going forward, I will keep it to sports….How bout them Jags. I’m a season ticket holder…yea???
Opinions are welcomed
And i’ll welcome aboard Stud.
Keep posting and gather respect.
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Don't give any breaks, Stud
You either find joy in life, or you try to steal it from others. And don’t pay any attention to anyone who tries to give you a hard time about being a newcomer…as it longevity gives you more of a right to an opinion. Go Jags.
Vae Victis!
He stopped yesterday
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This is a football site
Let me preface this by saying I too am a conservative, but this is a football site, not politics site. There are loons that are conservatives, and there are crazies that are liberals. I only know slvrgun on this website, and at this website his comments and ideas are generally appreciated. As a football fan I appreciate his input.
There is way, way to much partisan behavior going on the past few years. If I want to rant, rave, and cuss about what I think is wrong with this country I will, but on a politics website. There’s a time and a place for everything. Slvrgun, I do think that part of your comment was offbase, but as with everything, I take others opinions with a grain of salt. This was not a personal attack against you, studboy, nor an attack against all conservatives. US History shows that some of America’s greatest times come when both Democrats and Republicans have dual control. When everything gets onesided, one way or another, things get a little slanted. Let’s have some balance.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
I have nothing against conservatives.
Just like their are idiot liberals there are idiot conservatives.
I just don’t like the loony con’s that drive around with confederate flags.
Pity my post has turned all political. I never meant it as a jab at conservatives.
his steroetypical and nonsensical attempted slap
at conservatives was unfortunate and frankly is beneath what he has exhibited when commenting on football related topics. If he likes, I’d be delighted to discuss how liberal racism has systematically destroyed the school system in Duval county over the course of 20 + years- but this is not a political website.
I like Slvrgun and want him to continue to contribute to this site with football related comments.
by OGN on Sep 8, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be delighted to counterdiscuss how conservative outrage is manufactured by large corportations
Come on, neither my post nor OGN’s post nor anyone else’s post has anything to do with anything. Let’s get back to football.
by MoveThoseChains on Sep 8, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol I believe we were getting off politics
Theres more than 30 conservations in whic you cna counter one ideology to another, but we’re Jags fan which makes everyone equal and important. This football not politics, lets keep it that way.
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You've been here less than a day...
And you think you can start quoting Tkopa? And before you use words like “disparities” you should check your spelling lest you appear ignorant. I understand there will always be disparities but the ones in Jacksonville are grossly disproportionate.
I could very well find a job in Jacksonville working for the Florida Fish and Wildlife or FLDEP but the pay here is abysmal. I would probably be making around 40K to 60K whereas in Tallahassee (where the economy is still doing great and where we have a competent mayor and city council) I could make near 80K to 120K. Check the jobs in this city on peoplefirst then look at Jacksonville, ain’t nothing in Duval.
Any go Jags! Ready to kill baby Colts!
disparages
I spelled it correctly, Slvrgun. Disparages can be used a a verb and it means to criticize someone or something in a way that shows you do not respect or value them. Now, who thinks we can beat the Colts and how do we do it?
MJD
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Mixed with a little Scobee
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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Opinion is one thing...
…but when opinion is so grossly misrepresented it borders on slander. First, as noted, give a city in which your “problems” noted are exempt. Second, check voting records before you “label” the city as a whole and do the usual uneducated lumping with partisanship as your foundation. Lastly, your job market woes are purely subjective as would anyone’s opinion of a city: heck I could argue lack of any real culture.
TKOPA, he may have value from previous posts but this stands on its own as useless.
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Vince Lombardi
by Brian Fullford on Sep 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the no real culture. The vast majority of people I know that moved here from other large cities have expressed how far behind Jacksonville is on a lot of things. Mostly concentrating on big business, night life & cost of living vs. average wages.
I know that in my line of work, I’d be making around 50k more a year if I lived in Miami doing exactly what I do now.
And the home team calls a time out
We will return to football after the break.
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I do have to agree
I am not supporting the post, just the person.
i do not recognize jacksonville in his description.
Slvrgun – i am having trouble holding the defense of you. I think they need a retraction.
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How about they just shut up with the politics...
I’m getting sick to my stomach reading any and all of these comments. Everyone is just trying to show off their intellect about subjects that I hate talking about. RCR banned political discussions on the site for a reason.
So, people, with all due respect, just shut up about the politics and talk football or I’m going somewhere else for a couple of days.
by Blair72 on Sep 8, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My original post was never intended to be a stab at conservatives.
If any of the above were offended then I would hope none of you are the loons that parade around like this is confederate country or something. Those people give Jacksonville are poor reputation as being backwards and borderline hill billy. If you are one then I am glad I hurt your feelings.
If you are a civilized conservative with sense then I am sure you lack the hypersensitivity of those individuals who claim to be what they profess and saw that my comment wasn’t directed to bash conservatism.
I'm on your side man
I didn’t see your post as an attempt at talking anything political. You were voicing your frustration with the city. People are just too sensitive.
Unless it is anyway related with football, then hesitate at posting
I don’t think it was Politically charged but it has sparked some people (in which i share a common ideology) so…..but Blair already discussed it. I value your comments and hope to continue hearing from you. Go Jags.
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Forget politics, forget semantics...
You are talking about my home. Where I live, play, work. This is where I will raise my children. I’ve built a network of friends and business associates here. I earn the capital that feeds my family within and around this city. When you slap Jacksonville, you slap those that inhabit the land. You don’t wanna slap me, the helmet won’t save you.
Vae Victis!
Your comment is ridiculous
I understand you have pride in your city of residence, where you grew up, your kids grow up, etc. But to say that if someone bad mouths the city, they are bad mouthing you, or whatever it is that you are trying to say, is just dumb. I’m sorry if I’m coming off disrespectful here, but the argument had already been squashed and then you come back with more fuel to the fire. Needless to say, when you slap Jacksonville, you are not, in fact, slapping those that inhabit the land.
He just doesn’t like the city. Get over it. If you like it, good for you. This whole argument is just dumb. We understand you are smart. You don’t have to try to prove your intellectual worth by using words like “capital” instead of “money” on a football blog website. We are all of intellectual value. It’s not a competition and this website is definitely not the place to try to sound smarter than the next guy.
With that said, I’m good at pissing people off, so sorry in advance to everyone who does, in fact, get pissed off. Now let’s get over this already.
Just stating my opinion, Lil lady.
His was that he doesn’t like Jax, mine was that I didn’t like him. Simple really. If my words make you feel inferior, you should hit the books. Now you’re on the list.
Vae Victis!
Inferior?
Because you use the word “capital” in lieu of the term “money” I’m inferior to you? Hate to break it to you too, buddy, but nobody cares about your list. And as far as the ‘Lil Lady’ comment goes, I’ll let that go. You obviously have something to prove to either yourself or the world. I’m done with this.
im with blair
and i enjoy slvrgun throwing everyone off when we agree too much
he means well and is a loyal fan, what else can you ask of someone?
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It's official
I don’t like you. There are roads to the North, West, and South…there is a vast ocean to the east, and thriving port. It would be easy to find your way out. Also very easy to avoid the paths that lead here. Although, I imagine your negativity will follow you anywhere you go. I feel sorry for the people who are close to you in life.
Vae Victis!
I'm pretty sure you don't even know him in real life.
You are taking this too personally. It’s almost amusing.
I Don't Get it
Are you implying “ass”?
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I just was speaking out of anger but in all seriousness i hate when people like him take shots at our city.
by leopold332002 on Sep 7, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
I’m just messing with ya bro.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I used to like Peter King but
all these cheap shots are boring.
Just remember Peter, all that weight loss don’t cure ugly.
You and that poor Jay Leno wannabe hair. Shameful.
Jacksonville Jaguars. It's what I do.
It was in his MMQB segment when he said "London Jaguars has a good ring to it"
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 7, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I stay in Atlanta Now
I love the Jags, I love the beach, I miss home; but real talk, the economic situation in Jacksonville was horrible before the recession.
Jacksonville, has had no real economic growth in my opinion in the last 7 years, and only part of town (The Southside) seems to be the only part of town that sees any real growth, the rest of the city is lagging behind.
The only reason why I am in Atlanta, is because I got a job up here, trying to get a job in Jacksonville, is like trying to get a good WR for the Jaguars, nearly impossible.
I think we might have good receivers now
Maybe you should start your job search.
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Lol same thoughts with me
Try, Try again
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Sad but true
I live on the Northside and the only place to get a job paying more than $10/hr on this side of town was the Port and that’s ground to a halt over the last 18 months.
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's just hilarious."-Bill Hicks
by Jonathan Loesche on Sep 7, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jax WR
Preseason and Season Reality are two different things.
We will see.
Every year we always talk about how good the WR corp is in training camp and in the preseason, and then in the regular season they stink it.
Torry Holt is not going to have a Pro Bowl year he is old and washed up. I just do not believe in the hype.
We might as well go get Marvin Harrison too, and have an AARP WR Corp.
So I will not be looking for any jobs in Jax any time soon.
I hope I am wrong.
Instead of being made at Peter King buy tickets
I have been a season ticket holder for a few years now and the support that the Jags receive is honestly embarrassing. It is simple, you want to silence the critics, go to the games. People seem to think the NFL exists for the fans, it doesn’t, it exists for the owners to make money. These teams are assets, not charities, Jacksonville as a city needs to stop finding excuses as to why they don’t go to games.
Maybe you can buy my tickets then.....
I would rather put food on the table right now and pay for the roof that is over my head.I have a family that depends on the support of what little I do make right now.
You are embarrassed because people choose to pay for priorities rather than pay for a game. WOW! Hope you don’t ever loose your job then, you might get embarrassed at yourself when you are having to take care of family before a game.
I was a season ticket holder myself for years and this year I couldn’t do it. Now you insult fans like myself because we have our priorities in check.
My point exactly
Can I send you some tickets? How many do you need?
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:RAISES HAND:
I have a baby due anyday… If i bought some tickets; i’d be divorced
by floridafalcons#63 on Sep 8, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I am serious
you have my email, tell me what you need. Would love to see you at the Cardinals game!
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You have my email address at the bottom of the page - use it!
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Tried to e-mail you
It says this:
Reason: Failed all attempts to connect to the recipients mail server.
Thats how we save money
JK
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tko@onehop.com
tko(as in terry kevin o’brien) @ onehop.com
Try again. It works!
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People--Come Alive Jax
When Jacksonville was awarded the franchise we sold every seat(no tarps) for 3 years.
Jacksonville is going to get a jolt they don’t want to see if things do not improve.
I think the city gets gets a reprieve this year for 2 points
the recession?? depression?? (depends on who you ask)
the poor product we got last year.
I agree we need to support team better as a city or risk losing it.
Risk losing to where?
You are buying into the NFL “Do as we say or else” mentality.
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by Tkopa on Sep 7, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The only flaw to your thinking is...
JAX Municiple Stadium doesn’t belong to Mr. Weaver, it belongs to the city. The NFL isn’t an open business. Try starting your own NFL Franchise.
I have to go with the “Where…”. Oklahoma City or Vegas. If natural gas keeps taking a hit count out Oklahoma City and I don’t think the owners would ever let the NFL into Vegas… Just an image problem on so many levels… no it sounds like an unachievable threat.
Thank you for seeing it
My whole point is simply this… The NFL is located in cities that have proven they support football including jacksonville. Quit threatening the fans and instead embrace them. They will support the team and the overall NFL business in their own way when they can. Jacksonville is a fine NFL city, threatening to leave it does no good and to have a threat, you must be able to carry it out.
Embrace your customers and they will embrace you. Threaten them and they will abandon you. Simple message.
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It will be the right way of thinking
but it seems some thinking otherwise.
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The recent history points different.
When baby elephants are being trained in the circus, they have a chain on their leg that keeps them in the ring. They get the feeling they can’tleave the ring. Later they remove the chain and the grown up elephants stay in the ring never realizing the chain is gone.
The past does not chain the the future. Things are different for the NFL now. Some people haven’t caught up to that yet, but they will. Housing values dropped. NFL franchise values are beginning to drop. If the NFL wants to hold its value, it can’t allow teams to fail. They have to make it where they are. Jerry Jones doesn’t get it yet and the NFL is headed for a rude awakening. I think Wayne Weaver gets it.
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Oh Terry. I cry with you.
I hurt too. It’s not comforting. When a city is losing a grip on its team bad feelings come to the forefront. Remember Cleveland and how much they hated their owner? And lots of people still think the Colts should be Baltimore’s team (which is weird cause aren’t the Ravens really the Browns?) And then, the Oilers moved to Nashville, and became the Titans, but Houston rebounded and made the Texans. So, transition happens in the NFL. Just like business. Cingular, the little X-shaped guy. He’s gone now. Compass Bank. They’re gone now. K-mart. Barely hangin’ in there.
Point is…in business things change. The Jacksonville business of professional football is changing. They don’t have enough customers. Who cares about Peter King? He’s not committing any crimes and his knowledge of professional football compared to any of us would be a like a giant boulder resting atop a shore of pebbles.
Yes it hurts. But, the truth is…our stadium has no real name. I’ve heard jails with better names than our stadium. The city just cranked out it’s lowest stadium attendance ever. And all games are blacked out this season.
Maybe my sunglasses are too dark, but I can’t quite spot the silver lining here.
The Teal and Black are comin' back!
The silver lining is this
The NFL is learning it must do a better job of providing entertainment for its fans. The Jaguar traiing camp had the bleachers moved close to the field where people could see. Players signed autographs. Really bad people are being run off the team. Gene is in charge of players and the team will improve. Flexible ticketing packages exist.
The NFL can’t cut and run any longer. They can’t just threaten to leave. They must improve the product. In tough times, good businesses learn how to survive. I like everything Wayne Weaver is doing. It will pay dividends. The Jaguar stadium will sell out some games this year and most of then next year. It will all be ok.
Tough times wake people up. The Jaguars will be fine.
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by Tkopa on Sep 8, 2009 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can vouche for the decline
Atleast in Jacksonville. The business I am in is a wants type and not a needs type. While I struggle here in our wonderful city other simular business’s in major metro areas (Orlando, Tampa, Miami, etc) are still handling the stressful down fall of our economy better because of the masses that reside there.
I think what has affected us too is that we are a military town. Most of them folks move every three to four years and they are usually fans of other teams. The ones that do retire here are still the fans of other teams. So with so much turn over fans do come and go. I wish there were more like TKOPA that would take the Jags in as their own, but like he said below….winning games with solid defense and running games wins people over and that has to happen again. WINNING.
To me Mr. King went overboard to single us out, even if it is the truth. It is not the first time an organization in the NFL has struggled. If he lived here and knew an ounce about Jacksonville he would have never wrote that story.
I tell 2 more reason
why the ticket sales are sturggling:
1. Jacksonville as a city is large, but as an area, maybe the smallest in the NFL. It’s like Vegas. Try to build a team there… That’s why I feel abit sad, that Goddell, Kornhieser, and now King jump on us, the smallest kid in town, when cities like San Diego have ticlet selling issues, (a team, which will go to the playoffs, have a really good team for years, etc.)
2. As my visitor on Sunday told me, Jacksonville is NOT the city of the rich. This is not a wealthy place specially now. And if writers, commentators forget that, they should read more newspapers…
And the whole London thing. I agree with Terry, if in the Main market you cannot sell tickets, how in the world you would sell in soccer and rugby country? 1 game is fine, but 8? Don’t they remember NFL Europe, and how it turned out.
I think King with this “London Jaguars” went a bit to far. I would be interested if Dr. Z: would write down things like this…
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 5:38 AM EDT reply actions
: sees a throat punch in the near future for Mr. king :
by floridafalcons#63 on Sep 8, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
Actually..........
There are many wealthy individuals in Jacksonville. There are people who live in all those $1,000,000 river front properties. We are surrounded by wealthy suburbs. Orange Park, Ponte Vedra, Oakleaf and so on. There is money here. But have you ever noticed the rich are rich because they are so damn stingy and cheap?
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
Secluded
Every town has a “rich” person, Jax isn’t any different.
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And one more thing.......
Why are these comments posted in PDT? Jacksonville is on the east coast fellas, lets get it right.
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
Check your profile
Mine are all in EDT
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Check your account settings, see if your time zone is set right.
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Hopefully the blackout will serve its purpose
I hope the NFL is right about there blackout policy. For once I think I agree with them. I know a lot of people in the city who are true fans simply can’t afford it. For those that can I hope the blackouts will be a wake up call. For a lot of people in this city $120 a season just means cutting fast food out of there budget. For those that can, find a way! And for those that truly can’t I feel for you and hope your situation improves.
By a couple of game tickets for $80 bucks if you can
and give them to someone. Share the wealth, lift the blackout.
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A difference between socialism and simple good behavoir
Socialism is if season ticket holders were forced to buy extra tickets and the Jaguars would give them away for their own credit.
Simple good behavoir is if you do it and in a nameless fashion and give to whoever you want to.
The Jaguars are even supporting a “buy a ticket give it to charity” program.
Let’s lift the blackout.
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If It Was Socialism...
The city would then impose the “NFL Assurance Program”; the city would take $500 yearly in extra taxes, then buy out the stadium. They would then ration out the tickets as they see fit.
Buying a couple of extra tickets is definitely not socialism.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Lets call it Charity and move on
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal
I'm one of those fans
Once again, due to the economy, my fiance’s hours get cut on a regular basis. After all the bills are paid, gas is in the cars & some food in the fridge (not very much mind you, we’re both chefs so we’re only home to eat a combined total of 8 times a week), there isn’t much of anything left. I’ve been getting real concerned over the last few months. The old checking account has gotten down to like $15 & $20 a couple of times between pay checks. But her busy season is about to get going, so hopefully she can get some OT. After that, & we finally get some savings built back up, I plan on buying tickets to as many games as I can.
Bad news
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/76661/index.html?eref=fromSI
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions
One thing for sure
Roger Goodell is no Pete Rozelle. The NFL has been blessed with extraordinary leaders in that position. I think the jury is still out on Roger. Just my opinion.
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If he overseas the Jaguars
he is the worst in my eyes…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see this, but
The logistics of this just don’t add up. It’s hard enough taking a team from the East Coast and fly them to Seattle for a game, but to take a team from the west coast and fly them to London???
NY to Seattle: 2,408 miles (as a crow flies)
NY to London: 3,471
Seattle to London: 4,799
Can you imagine having to make a round trip of over 9,000 miles just to play a game, and then have to prepare for another game the next Sunday.
Also, will the players have to get work visas, will they have to pay British taxes (plus US Taxes when they come back to the states). Good luck there, Goodell. Sounds more like a pipe dream.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
I don’t think you will see any west coast teams fly to london… (honestly) It would be East Coast… Now, come West coast could go to Toronto…
by floridafalcons#63 on Sep 8, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
That may be, but then...
The London team would play 8 away games in the US. Conservatively they would fly over 56,000 miles just playing teams on the East Coast.
If they did manage to overcome that, and ended up with home field advantage in the playoffs…Hell of a home field advantage. The Chargers (in this example) would have to fly 10,000 miles round trip for a division playoff game. If they won sucks for them because by the time they finally made it home they’d have to turn back around and fly to Jacksonville for the AFC Championship.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
I do the trip once a year...
and every March think about driving my car off the road. Granted I’m in a 767 with crying kids, smelly bathrooms, and sitting between two offensive linemen. If its the 747, then it’s, “please god don’t give me the 5th man stink hole in the center”. It takes me a week to recover from the lag, it just all around sucks! Sure the 53 man squad would get a private jet, but we’re not talking small guys here. With todays prima donas, there’s no way this happens. Maybe they can put a few blocking dummies on the flight, do some wind sprints from first class to coach.
It’s just the stupidest idea I have ever heard. Yeah… the Brits… they love football like the Americans love soccer. Once every 4 years is enough. Yeah smoke another doobie Goodell. The man’s a god damn frickin genius. (Excuse my cussing please). What a moron…
unless...
he plans on extending the season, making games once a month, shorten the games to 10 a season… there’s just no way this is happening…. They’ll loose the fans, the excitement for the season of fall football, they’ll loose their ass financially… no way….
and another thing...
I bet there may be some pro football players that are not eligble for a work visa… I’m not sure how that felony thing works? Could make pre-game planning interesting. Nah… I think Goodell watched one too many roller-ball movies.
I think this is the reaction from Wayne Weaver
for all the ticket selling situation
http://www.jaguars.com/news/article.aspx?id=8186
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions
he is our version of Ralph Wilson
same deal: they both decided to stay when they didn’t have too. They believed in the city.
He put on for his city
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Wayne is bettin g better and better as an owner
I think he start to look that the Jaguars could be his legacy, and he trying to take care about it in that way
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Betting I mean
getting
The mistyping errors are still wit me.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Just throwing this out here for you Zoltan
and I mean this in the most respectful way. I’m not nit-picking. I promise I’m not. I just want to help you out, my man. You don’t have to say mistyping errors. If you just say “typing errors” it’s the same general effect from the words. However, the way you type is part of your character on the site, so I really don’t want you to change anything. Just giving you some info to work with. Anyway, are you ready for Sunday?
Ok Blair
I understand it.
And to answer to your question, yyou can bet I’m ready. I’m ready for the saeson as a whole, so I waiting event Thursday’s game, which I can see on TV (first time the opening game is broadcasted here), and I must not search for streams…
I thinking about an article before the season start as well, I hope I have the time to write it!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be looking forward to it if you do get to write it
As a whole, I want to see how the Jaguars open the season. Will they be fast, furious, and disciplined? More than anything though, I want to whup some Colt A$$!!!!!!
Ok, I’m done being dramatic. But it seems like the offseason is always so long. Now the season is finally here again. My hopes are high. But I have no expectations.
To throw a Star Wars reference
Wayne is our version of Obi-won Kenobi
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal
On a different note
I wrote Wayne Weaver a letter.
http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2009/9/8/1021617/a-response-to-wayne-weavers
Comments are welcome.
He will not
But it is a nice piece as alwyays Blair!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Sep 8, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah guys
+1 on Blair!!!! I wanna see the Colts DESTROYED!!! No Sanders, a hurt Marlin Jackson. 4 draft picks starting for us… LET’S GET IT ON!!!
Wondering...
I’m curious to know from those of you who are from the area: has all this talk around the Jags’ future in JAX been exasperated because of the Super Bowl hosted in the city a few years back? A lot of press was written about how Jacksonville was a terrible pick as the host city for all sorts of reasons, but mainly about an apparent lack of night life or hotel space.
Now, I have never been to Jacksonville or anywhere in northern Florida, for that matter, so this is more curiosity than anything else. All of the perspectives I’ve read and heard over the years come from visiting media for the most part, so I’m wondering what those of you who are more connected to the team and city may believe.
Jason Clinkscales
A Sports Scribe
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by Jason Clinkscales on Sep 8, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
Its possible if not totally based on that
You can find things to take up your time in any city. For Jax I can reccomend plenty of places, since i’m been in Duval since Day 1.
For instance:
Restaurants:
Potter’s House in Westside Jax, in the Normandy area.
American Cafe, at the landing
Ham’s near Roosevelt Square (Westside)
Entertainment:
Jax Zoo
Mosh ( Museum of Science and History )
Main Library (Located in Downtown JAX)
Jax Beaches, a short drive (Reccomended: Seminole Beach)
The Avenues (Mall) you can spend a day in there, especially if you bring a girlfriend, wife, mother.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
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"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal
Here is what is great about Jacksonville - other than football
The town is filled with beautiful women all of them friendly. Every guy with a decent set of morals and isn’t a jackass can have a beautiful girlfriend.
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They will be waiting for you
Do you want pictures of what I married?
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Are you serious right now?
No, I’m seriously asking if you are serious…
Who lives in Jacksonville and needs a roommate? lol
So, how many blondes live in Jacksonville?
I love Jacksonville
I love the Jaguars. I don’t need the validation of King nor pauper to know this is a great place. I’ve seen a bit of the world, and trouble is the same all over. You choose a place to live, it does not choose you. If you don’t like a place avoid it, it’s easy. Why do so many people need someone else to think for them?
Vae Victis!
The corner isn't football termology
I believe a “Time out” is in order….lol
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Leader of the Run-Paul-Smith-Out-Of-Town Club **--Mission Complete--**
"As for me, Life goes on."-TheTealDeal
WELL
There goes me sharing my infamous no bean chili mac recipe! lol PLEASE dont make me sit in the corner!
Go Jags! Some people are like Slinky's...not really good for anything but they make you smile when pushed down the stairs.
I want the chili recipie
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so the steelers can beat the titans thursday
and i challenge anyone to pigskin pick em on espn
i’ll link it if anyone wants it
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nice!
http://games.espn.go.com/pigskin/en/entry?entryID=274383
thats mine and now its time for some competition
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Life outside of football
I noticed two of your reasons were the players indiscressions outside of football.
While I’d like to see your statistics of 20% of NFL players having a criminal background, if the fact that someone has made a mistake or continues to make mistakes stop you from going to a football game then that’s kind of sad.
Same thing goes with the me-first players of last year. What’s your definition of a me-first player. Because most people always want more money. Last year’s team wasn’t a bust because of bad attitudes. It was the fact there were not so talented players on the field. Terrell Owens is probably the ultimate me-first player and he’s the one of the best WR in the game. While he shoulders the blame for the Cowboys failures recently, people seemingly forget that Tony Romo disappears come post Thanksgiving and thinks he’s Brett Farve throwing to people in different colored jerseys.
BTW I didn’t see season tickets drop when the Iggles signed Mike Vick nor did I see sales drop when the Bills signed T.O. I think the excuses are poor, but then again I think most excuses are poor for those who live in the area. Cut back on McDonalds once a paycheck, but that fast food money into a savings account and you’ll have enough for a season ticket. Even in a recession there are ways to look at your finances and see how a purchase for one of the cheapest season tickets around can be bought.
So you are a joy to have around
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