2010 Scouting Report: Taylor Mays, S, Southern Cal
The winner of the first "Choose your scouting report" is Taylor Mays. Mays is an extremely atheltically gifted safety that many scouts have compared to Sean Taylor. Coming into 2010, Mays was thought to be neck and neck with Tennessee safety Eric Berry for the top safety spot on draft boards. However, just like much of USC's team, Mays struggled mightily at times.
Make no mistake, Taylor Mays is an absolute physical freak. He reportedly ran a 4.25 40 yard dash during USC's spring practices. At 6'4, 230 lbs, he is built more like a linebacker than a safety and it translates into his hitting game. When he hits people, he drives through and delievers punishing hits that will remind Jaguar fans of Donovan Darius. Mays' run support is second to none in the draft, including Eric Berry. He would be a 4th linebacker when lining him up in the box.
He has excellent closing speed that let's him come up to delivery the above mentioned big hits. He spent the majority of his time in college playing the two deep zone, so having that closing speed was critical. He was used for an an intimidator than play maker in college, which partially explains his lack of "highlight" plays. In addition, Mays never missed a game as the starting safety.
However, Mays has his share of weaknesses. Remember those big hits thanks to his closing speed I mentioned earlier? That's a crapshoot because of he consistently took bad angles. In addition, when he was there to make the tackle, he often was more interested in creating a big hit than making a sound tackle, cause some more garbage yards for the opposition.
His coverage skills are, well, bad. There was a reason Mays played as deep as he often did in college. At least as a rookie, the extent of Mays' coverage ability will be helping corners over the top. Even in college, he had issues trying to cover wide outs one on one. He's not the ball hawk you would want to see out of an elite safety prospect. He has been accused of just getting by on his athletic talent rather than any real football skill.
Had Mays come out last year, he would've been a top 10 pick. However, staying for his senior year caused his game to be nitpicked to death. Coupled with a lackluster senior year and we have our latest candidate for the Brian Brohm award.
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Taylor Mays: By The Numbers
| At A Glance | |||||
| Position 1: Strong Safety |
Height: 6'4 | ||||
| Position 2: 3-4 OLB |
Weight:230 | ||||
| Class: Senior | Age: 22 | ||||
| Projected Round: Top 15 |
40time: 4.25-4.3 |
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1st Team All American: 2007, 2008, 2009
2nd Team All American: 2006
2008 Thorpe Award Finalist
| Tackles | Misc | Interceptions | ||||||||||||
| YEAR | TOT | SOLO | AST | SACK | STF | STFY | FF | BK | INT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | PD |
| 2006 | 62 | 38 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 40 | 13.3 | 38 | 0 | 0 |
| 2007 | 65 | 36 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2008 | 53 | 38 | 15 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 | 88 | 45 | 43 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
According to the Experts
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Pros
The 6-foot-3 safety is one of the best pure athletes in the draft. Solid built, with raw power, he possesses incredible range and even better coverage awareness. He has blazing speed and moves well enough on the back end to make plays on the ball. Mays possesses a good feel for the game and a knack for the football. He is well respected and a natural leader on the field.
Cons
On the downside, he is not the most punishing hitter. He can be overaggressive and misses some tackles in space. He is a low, drag-down tackler.
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Pros
Extremely rare height and long arms, Tremendous bulk and strength, Athletic freak, Coordinated and can change directions quickly, Elite measurables, Physical nature, Big hitter
Cons
Takes false steps in coverage and poor angles, Lacks instincts, Zero ball skills, Not much of a playmaker, Poor tackling technique, throws body around without using arms/hands to wrap up, Hasn't improved his weaknesses going back to sophomore season
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Pros
Excellent athlete, quick, explosive, violent hitter, excellent range, excellent run support, good work ethic
Cons
Poor ball skills, looks for the big hit too often, takes bad angles, doesn;t always play as fast as his times
Best and Worst
Best Case Comparision: Sean Taylor. Mays is the same kind of physical freak that Taylor was. With a little coaching and refinement of his technique, he could be the same kind of dominant force.
Worst Case Comparision: Roy Williams. If Mays doesn't improve his coverage skills, he'll be Williams 2.0. A highly athletic safety that is a liability in the passing game.
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Bleh, forgot to schedule it for tomorrow. Either way, enjoy everyone
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 9:22 AM EST reply actions
Eh, nothing else to do today. Already have Joe Haden and CJ Spiller's half way done
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Skills over athletic ability anytime
What’s the use for a guy that can run 4.25 and bench press 225 20 times if he can’t use that on the field?
We have a guy that can miss tackles and takes false steps in coverage.
That's what I was thinking as I was reading this...
This sounds like someone else on this team…
I guess the big question is: can you teach him to play the position properly? That would be the deciding factor in whether or not he’s drafted high.
Let's say take him
And with 10th pick he is gonna get a lot of money for someone who is still to learn, a lot about football,and probably won’t make impact we are hoping for.
true
one thing i do not want to hear with a #10 pick is “well, he has great upside”. i think, for the money, you need a player with more immediate impact.
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That's why my pick would be
from the Haden; Spiller; McClain; Morgan quartett
Mays is a SS in my opinion.
Great 1st profile John though!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 17, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
I’m starting to be very pro value players than getting need like a DE.
I want #1Haden/Spiller, but if not them then go BAP
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 18, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be honest. Twice during the latter part of that article I accidentally wrote Reggie Nelson instead of Mays
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Coincindence?....
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 17, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
He's similar to the Arizona Cardinals
Adrian Wilson… I would take him but not with the tenth pick…top ten picks are OT, DE, QB, CB or sometime DT…if the Jags were able to trade down, he should be an option. Mays is more of a 15-32 1st rounder.
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by ArtoriusG on Jan 17, 2010 11:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Arizona-NO game
I was watching the 1st quarter of the game yesterday and was reminded of Reggie watching Arizona trying to tackle. It was the worst I have seen well since Reggie
For the S spot
I say sign Antoine Bethea from the Colts as a thought. It does two things. It helps repair our secondary and it helps cripple the Colts.
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by ArtoriusG on Jan 17, 2010 11:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
We used to do that alot
When Coughlin was here we used to target divisional players. I remember that was one of the first things said when we got Leon Searcy.
Agreeed...
did u see the pick the Bethea got last night? plus hed be good at reading Manning..
Also, Lets think of reggie nelson as a potential marcedess lewis. Lewis had a terrible 08 campaign then came out incredibly in the 09 season. Maybe Nelson can do the same in his fourth year….
or maybe not. still we need pass rush more then anything
I'd Love
To have Bethea, but he will likely be the first player resigned by the Colts. Plus I think he may be a restricted free agent.
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He'd provide wonderful depth if not a starter
but I’d never want to give Colts draft picks.
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Imagine...
If the Jags made the trade for Jared Allen instead of picking Harvey…can’t live in the past, but…
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by ArtoriusG on Jan 17, 2010 2:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'd prefer Tebow in the 1st round
That’s how much I don’t like this prospect.
There are athletes and there are football players. Sometimes a person is both and that makes for a great player, but unfortunately Taylor Mays is just an athlete. As a football player he is terrible.
It’s not a lack of physical skills at the FS position that the Jaguars need to address.
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Haha I'll definitely write a few
If I was to rank safeties, I’d take Earl Thomas or Nate Allen after Berry instead of Mays or Burnett.
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Oh yeah, less than 20,000 hits until 1,000,000
I have a feeling that’ll happen sometime next week
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions
Jack-Watch 2010
HAs a big upside for BCC ; don’t you think John?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 18, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah Z, oh yeah
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 18, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
I saw on sitemeter
That Tuesday was a MONSTER DAY for the site- maybe all time high for BCC in hits…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 18, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
And even Mainstream media
is now know about us because of that-In fact they used us as a source…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 18, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don't understand
… how uncoachable some of these players seem to be. You can’t teach a guy to be an athlete, but surely you can teach him how to take a good angle, and how to tackle? It really confuses me. (I am assuming a certain degree of mental aptitude for the game in terms of reading what’s going on).
Sidenote: I’ve re-watched a few of the Jags games over the last week…. maybe I’m just being cynical, but there were a few occassions I would have sworn Nelson delibrately chose a bad approach angle to avoid contact.
This isn't always the case,
but it’s not always possible to coach angles, because it’s different for everyone, and because it’s not really something you learn from someone else. It’s more of an instinct; and some people have it and some don’t. You can’t think because it’s usually too late by then.
Speaking of Nelson and mental aptitude
Is there a way to find information on academic performance? I would think that would be an important part of judging a prospect because if the player has a hard time learning in college I would think he would be more likely to have a hard time learning as a professional.
Hmm
Outside of knowing if they’re Academic All-Americans or not, that might be a bit time consuming. However, I’ll note if they were Academic All-Conference/America or not in future reports
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
I give you guys a smart guy
with football instincts and smarts. Alterraun Verner!
Guy graduated high school with a 4.2 or something crazy like that. And I think he’s still carrying an A average in college at UCLA. Impressive, but then the shocker is he was a Math major! Speaking from personal experience, that is not an easy feat to accomplish. Not to mention the relatively impressive internships etc, that I know he took part of.
If that’s not enough, he’s the only guy I saw ever really cover Desean Jackson and Mike Thomas in college. I know he picked off passes intended for both of them, and took them to the house. Keep in mind Jackson and Thomas were both sub 4.3 guys, and he pulled away from them. He was also a terrific gunner on special teams and he had hands good enough to be an elite WR in college, which he would have also been had he not been so important in his other capacities. His capacities didn’t usually included being a good return man, but he could have been and was when given a chance.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 19, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I was considering writing a scouting report on Verner
I like him a lot too. He’s actually a friend of one of my best friends.
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I would like to see a scouting reprt on him
I probably already know everything I need to know about him, but with the Jags being an east coast team I’m sure a lot of people on this site don’t know much about him.
Unfortunately, I don’t think he will be drafted by the Jags because he’s not a 6 footer with a sub 4.4 40, despite his intangibles. I know Gene doesn’t care where you come from or how highly everyone else ranks you, but being big and fast is important to him from what Vic has said and from what picks he’s already made.
The reason I didn't do one was his speed, but I'll do one anyway
I’m halfway through one right now, so it’ll be my second scouting report.
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by Adam Stites on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I know he supposedly
doesn’t have great speed, but I’ve never seen him struggle with speed. Truth is at CB a good back pedal and transition along with good makeup speed, all of which he has, is more important. I think he lacks that 10 yd split from a 3 point stance, because he has slightly long legs for his height but otherwise he’s got good speed.
I know you are doing a lot of work
And I appreciate it and i’m not trying to add to your workload but earlier this year a Gator fan told me that Reggie Nelson had problems getting eligible academically and that maybe that is his problem. I just figured that football IQ would correlate with learning ability and GPA which would make his academic performance important.
Yeah, I know Nelson didn't qualify at first and had to go the JUCO route to get to UF.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 17, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that report was a huge turn-off.
The remedy for a poor-tackling failcover safety is not another poor-tackling failcover safety.
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by MoveThoseChains on Jan 18, 2010 12:36 AM EST reply actions
+1000000
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by Adam Stites on Jan 18, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
for me the "zero ball skills" is worse
On some other board a scout mentioned that he saw a teams board which had him at #79 overall, and the #7 safety ranked…. with those kind of skills you have to know there’s something very very wrong with the rest of his game. Of course, i’m sure some inventive DC will find a way to use him very well – he’s just going to have to go to the right system.
an update from wednsday sr. bowl activities
“Taylor Mays failed to impress once again. Honestly I’m not overtly seeking to criticize him, but once again he failed to make plays where plays were there to be made. Three straight times in the closing 11-on-11 drills he had chances to read the field and see where the ball was likely to go, but he failed to act and the throw got completed right where he should have been. On one of the plays the corner (Robinson) properly funneled the route inside to his safety help (Mays) but Mays either failed to anticipate it or failed to react. I was standing next to a recently retired NFL safety during this time and he exclaimed, "What the f*** is he waiting for?"”
http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/15636/20100127/wednesday_senior_bowl_notes_(south)/

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