Why is Jack's inner circle leaving?
by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 28, 2010 9:19 AM EST
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With the recent departures of Ted Monachino, Kennedy Pola, and Mike Tice from the Jaguars' staff, questions have arisen as to what is really going on inside the Jaguars organization. These departures have been espescially puzzling since these coaches reportedly were Jack Del Rio's "Inner Circle" and provided an echo chamber in the locker room.
So then, why is it that these coaches have now either been fired (Monachino) or taken lateral moves with other teams (Pola, Tice)? I think we have to look back at the meeting between Jack, Wayne, and Gene for the answers. I'm going to borrow a few quotes and ideas from Terry's piece on Black and Teal which you can see there.
The two telling quotes from Wayne Weaver are
People have to be accountable and they know they have to be accountable and there has to be a standard that you set, and that standard has to be adhered to by everybody in the building.
and
"Shame on me that I haven’t done (extensive reviews of the organization) more. Shame on me — for if I would have dug deeper in some of the earlier years with some of the personnel things going on in this building – I would have had a different result," Weaver said.
What Wayne, in essence, is saying is that he let questionable hires slide and now it's time for that to come to an end. That is why we bid adios to Ted Monachino. You don't coach a unit that ranks in the Top 5 Fewest Sack totals All-Time and manage to get to have another year. Joe Cullen's units in Detroit all had sack totals over 30 while he was there, and think about the talent on those Lions teams.
The accountability issue also arose with Tice. Was he a good coach? Yes Did he both provide an unneeded echo chamber for Del Rio? Yes. If the reports are true that he was Jack's Chief Lieutenant on the staff, then I can see why it was needed for him to leave town. If the person Del Rio's trusts the most of staff simply yes's Del Rio to death, what good does that do?
As for Pola, who knows. It is known he wants to be an offensive coordinator and I guess he figured the road would be easier through Nashville than staying in Jacksonville. It is known that he and Tice also had a lot of input on the offense, to the chagrin of Dirk Koetter. That may have well been another underlying factor.
Either way, it is clear that the organizational structure of coaches being "In" or "Out" is coming to an end quickly. Jack knows it's do or die and he'll have to do it without several coaches he's confided in. Will he rise to the challenge?
PS
Next time you guys hear from me I'll be in Miami covering the Pro Bowl.
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Pay, responsibilities, recognition and opportunities for advancement are all great reasons to leave. I don’t see people jumping ship, just climbing the ladder. I could be a running backs coach with Chris Johnson on the team (monachino and Suggs), so it is a gold star on Pola’s resume to get a better job.
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by DownTownJax on Jan 28, 2010 12:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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Hey, Jonathan!
I am a Jags fan who won a contest with the Jaguars and will be down at the Pro Bowl. I get to meet MoJo (and David now), and got tix to the game and 2 nights in a hotel there. Hope to see you there! Wear some Jags gear so we can get a cheering section going!
I'll be in the press box, no cheering allowed ;)
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 28, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Show off! Man Im so jealous of you.
Your hard work is paying off. Have fun while your there, just dont let the other guys in the box see you doing it.
I apologize for not saying Congrats
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 28, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
One nagging question
Wayne approved extensions for all the assistant coaches.
Does he regret that now? Why extend Ted Monochino and then fire him? Mike Tice just moved on, no effect there.
So when Wayne extended them, was he being fed BS at the time?
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Pola said he was offered a pay raise to stay and refused
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That's what I read as well.
His reasoning was something about adding to his resume, and his disappointment at not being considered for the USC head coaching job. Basically, he needs more on his resume to be considered for promotions, and there’s no better way than to have coached MJD and Chris Johnson. Imagine if Chris Johnson tops 2,500 yards at any point in his career, and what this would do for Pola’s stock.
yeah but what's more likely
is he takes a step back next year and then what does that look like ?
It's a gamble, I guess.
However, Johnson’s not likely to have bad years for the rest of his career. Seriously though, what if this was Johnson’s peak?
I think a lot of his
big time production is gonna be linked to Center Mawae. Once he’s gone, CJ is gonna see a significant drop in production. Obviously he will still be an elite runner.
No
Pola looking like he wanna go. Tice get a better offer. Yeah they were in Jack’s inner circle.
Monachino-he was bad; and I’M really happy he was replaced; and maybe with tha Jack showed he is knowig what he must reach this year.
Althought there are some worring clouds about the Jags; I slowly come to the conclusion; that the coaching staff will be okay…
Still the Pola thing bothers me- a bit…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 28, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
They are friends
you can tell when you hear him talk about JDR. I heard him talking highly of JDR to other nonJag coaches off the record at the beginning of the year.
maybe....
JDR being a good friend and letting Pola have his wish to pursue being an offensive coordinator
by jesusjagfan2009 on Jan 28, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
So Cullen being DL coach is a done deal?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 28, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Anything an improvement
Monachino was horrible – Jags D-line has been a problem ever since he was hired – yes, he had problems with loosing players that was not his fault, but he has never come close to doing anything to develop what he had. I felt he should have been replaced long ago and that he was a downgrade when he replaced Hamilton who left with Mike Smith.
Congrats, John!
Have fun at the PB.
I’m not worried about our coaching carousel. I think we’re making too much of cat squat.
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When friends become yes-men...
You may have a problem. A friend may not give you criticism because he doesn’t want to hurt your feelings. A yes-man won’t tell you no when you need to hear it. Friends are an asset in personal life but they can be a liability at work. Not that Tice and Pola were bad coaches to have around, but maybe the team will progress more with people who look at the situation objectively.
by Richierich_420 on Jan 28, 2010 10:23 PM EST reply actions
I love that the media is slanting the tice and pola departures as lateral!
People have to be accountable and they know they have to be accountable and there has to be a standard that you set, and that standard has to be adhered to by everybody in the building.
and
“Shame on me that I haven’t done (extensive reviews of the organization) more. Shame on me — for if I would have dug deeper in some of the earlier years with some of the personnel things going on in this building – I would have had a different result,” Weaver said.
yet wayne weaver doesnt care if the very guy in charge is accountable???? this whole accountability sentiments delivered by weaver is so hypocritical. JDR has fired 19 assistants and many others bolting after a year or finally bolting
how is this accountable? the colts have 2 coaches who have left in peyton mannings tenure. their d coordinator who caldwell fired upon taking over and the most horrible special teams coach that should have been fired years ago if not for dungy loyaliness. so who picks up the crap coach…the jaguars
how is the present ex cleveland coach who had one of the worst defenses before arriving in jax, their d coordinator not fired? its just not the d line that sucks, its the entire D! how is that for accountability? the secondary is worse than the d line or AS worse
Im waiting for somebody to say to weaver…. not only are pretending that its your assistants year after year that are to blame, you hired the wrong guy. instead of him saying shame on him for not doing extensive research…the real truth is once mike smith left, who by the way was issued out by jags fans as del rio’s puppet, for which we found out was the very opposite, should have immediately fired JDR and hired mike smith back!
the owner of this team is as bad as the guy he refuses to acknowledge is THEE reason. wayne weaver ignored the ticket sales for years as well. only this year did he seem it fit to actually try and do something about it because it was evident things are desperate. even though this is a college town he refused to go after the little base that wasnt. only when its obvious that he is about to lose the team, and really its other people who are trying, not him, did he actually do something.
more than JDR being a horrible coach, wayne weaver is a horrible owner
So getting to the Super Bowl isn't enough to make you happy?
You need to come over here and kick the Jaguars around for entertainment?
Seriously, doesn’t that send a red flag up inside you?
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I think your
wiring is seriously messed up.
I’m pretty sure Weaver was referring to the old GM, which we got rid of. JDR is not the problem. As for your old special teams coach, he’s been doing just fine over here. The problem you guys had no quality depth.
Remember your coach was the one that was too much of a wuss to go for the undefeated season. Either that or he thought the team was too wuss.
JDR hasn’t won as much as Peyton has, but at least he has more guts than your coaches.
by Ewdtrey on Jan 29, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Players not plays...
I will love to see the Colts struggling after #18 retires…
Make no mistake you have a 1-man team-I would love to see what would be a record with Jim Sorgi-.If somethings happen with PM next year….
Oh I feeding Trolls once again….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 29, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
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