Senior Bowl Practice Week: Wrap-Up
by Adam Stites on Jan 28, 2010 11:33 PM EST
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PrintAccording to various sources here is a list of the players that the Jaguars spoke with this week and a synopsis on how they performed during this week's practices:
Dekoda Watson - LB - Florida State
Watson didn't do much to hurt his stock, but didn't do much to help it either as he still looks to be a late round draft pick. He caused some laughs when he chased Tebow down out of the pocket and yelled out "Just like old times!" as he caught up to Tebow. Dekoda lacks in size and power to play linebacker in the NFL and will likely have to make a roster as a special teams player.
Eric Norwood - LB - South Carolina
Norwood is a football player. He has all the instincts it takes to be a linebacker in the NFL and is a great pass rusher. However, in pass coverage he didn't do very well and was beat time and again by USC TE Anthony McCoy. His hips are a little stiff and he doesn't do very well changing directions on his backpedal. He definitely doesn't shy away from contact and made some big hits this week in practice.
Patrick Robinson - CB - Florida State
He didn't play very poorly this week, but his stock was likely hurt as CB Perrish Cox of Oklahoma State had a terrific week and looks like he'll definitely be drafted before Robinson. Robinson did very well against the speedy receivers, but didn't do as well against the larger, more physical receivers. He finished the week well with a good thursday, but even then he had a few lapses. He has the physical skills and ability to be a starting CB, but he needs to be more consistent before he can reach that point.
Vladimir Ducasse - OL - Massachusetts
He really struggled to hold his own at the tackle position, but did a decent job at the guard position. Although, even there he had struggles due to his slow footwork and was beat a few times in the middle. Though his footwork was poor at times, he showed some speed getting downfield for blocks. The biggest news he made this weekend was when his devastating block tore the ACL of Wisconsin LB O'Brien Schofield. At 6'4, 326 he's a big, power blocker who will run you over if he can get his hands on you, but he will probably require some good coaching before he can start for a team.
Shay Hodge - WR - Mississippi
Hodge had a great week of practice and looked like one of the best receivers on the South team. He was very quick out of his breaks and was able to quickly get out of jams from the CBs. Although he's not the fastest receiver he managed to run good routes and use his body well to shield off defenders. He doesn't have the ideal physical skill set, but has the intangibles necessary to be successful in the NFL. He's not afraid to go up in the air or down to the ground to get a ball.
Austen Lane - DE - Murray State
Lane really struggled this week to get off of blocks and was neutralized when a lineman could get his hands on him. He's quick, but his bullrush and power moves were not working against the big division 1 lineman. There's plenty of raw athleticism and talent there along with a good frame at 6'6, 270, but he may take some time to adjust to playing against higher competition.
Philip Dillard - LB - Nebraska
As a late addition to the Senior Bowl, he didn't get the full amount of practice that the other players did. He's not a very fast player, but he's instinctive and has enough size and physicality to play at the next level. He struggles to get to the outside, but on runs between the tackles he is very good. He did pretty well in coverage against tight ends and was pretty much the only LB for the North team able to stay with Oregon TE Ed Dickson.
-Adam Stites
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I didn't know about Ducasse....
By the way-that Austen Lane kid; he is really intersting me.
3rd round prospect((looks like it); coming from small school; performing well so far. I think he is a redhot candidate for the jags (to be honest with you NONE of the 1st round DEs convinced me so far-so let’s look kids like him.)
Thanks Adam; to wrap the Senior Bowl events up for us!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 29, 2010 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Derrick Morgan
Late first. I agree that I wouldn’t take him early, but I’d take Morgan after 20.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
After pick
25 he has a little value.
I think of it this way: He’s a poor man’s Derrick Harvey.
What’s that worth? He’s not as strong as Harvey and he doesn’t have the first step Harvey does.
Yeah
After 20 you’d have to take him unless some crazy fall occurred. Derrick Harvey was also drafted 8th, so he’d have value in the bottom half.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I wouldn't call him slow
but he doesn’t have that elite first either. He can chase a play down from the backside pretty good.
eric norwood
i have seen him a couple of times this year and every time i have watched him he just simply dominates would love for the jags to somehow draft him
CP7 FOR HEISMAN 2010
Draft Related - Senior Bowl Unrelated
What’s Myron Rolle’s draft stock right now?
You want to talk about a good football player with good character, Myron Rolle is up there. I’d love to see him at safety.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Just found out he is at the Senior Bowl....
I’m sure he’s rusty, but did he show anything special?
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Myron has gotten good reviews so far. They said he’s in great shape and obviously keeping sharp on football while he’s been away.
from jaguars.com… speaking with gene smith… even though it’s Senior Bowl related…
" A quartet of cornerbacks at the Senior Bowl also caught Smith’s eye. Former Florida State star Myron Rolle was chief among those corners that impressed.
"He had a good week. He didn’t look like a player that is one year removed from football. He helped himself. It’s obvious he had been training. He was excited to be back in pads and playing football," Smith said of Rolle, who spent last season as a Rhodes Scholar. "
Sean Jax Beach Bum
I think FSU had
Some of the smartest players and dumbest coaches for the past few years. Jumbo Fisher excluded.
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by DownTownJax on Jan 29, 2010 5:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jimbo
Autocomplete will be the death of me.
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by DownTownJax on Jan 29, 2010 5:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i like FSU… but the coaching got old… literally and figuratively… i hope Jimbo can turn it around.
Sean Jax Beach Bum
Me too!
Jimbo has already done wonders for FSU’s offense, now the new coaches should get the defense out of the 80s/90s and use some modern schemes. FSU is my Alma mater, but I have no allegience to Bowden. Ever since I started at FSU, he’s been ruining the program. It’s an exciting time for me.
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by DownTownJax on Jan 29, 2010 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i understand the feelings about Bowden ruining the program… but looking at it another way… it would never be as big a program if it wasn’t for him also… i’m glad they’re still getting good recruits too
Sean Jax Beach Bum
Bowden is FSU's Bear Bryant
I’m a Gator and I love the guy. You guys should be kissing his gym shorts.
I don’t know about Jimbo, I doubt he’s the answer. It doesn’t seem like he’s got the mojo. I’m looking forward to see what the next couple of years hold for the Spearheads. The ACC could be wide open. The question is: can your team get past the Techs and the dreaded ‘Canes. I think Miami is primed to make a run at taking over the conference. Honestly, I’d like to see Miami and Florida State return to glory. Can Jimbo do it for you? I don’t know. I think T.K blew it.
Vae Victis!
Jimbo will do it
He already has made a great impact on the team. In the past 2 months he has greatly improved out recruiting class, hired some really good coaches that are really good recruiters, started the process of creating a championship infrastucture that the program has never had. He is the real deal. I’m sure you gator fans would have loved for Bobby to stay. He was content with being a punching bag. Jimbo wants to win.
Ha!
I would have liked for Bobby to have made his decision on his own terms. I’m not sold on Jimbo. Maybe it’s his name…I knew I kid named Jimbo when I was young. He took great pride in the fact that his dog ate poop. Picture a seven year old boy squatting road side, dropping scat for his dog to eat. He said, “look he’ll eat my shit!”. Sure enough, the mutt ate it up. I never hung out with Jimbo again. The name is tainted for me.
I hope FSU does well. They’re my third favorite college team.
Vae Victis!
Here's how the big 7th rounder mock draft is going at MTD
Jaguars Draft
1st – Dez Byrant, WR (Not my original pick, #2 WR starter immediantely)
3rd – Tony Pike, QB ( Backup and apparant Heir when Garrard retires or leaves)
5th – Dexter Mccluster, Speed Demon, (Best Value there)
5th – Barry Church SS (Great prospect for saftey and should help a horrid pass D)
6th CJ Wilson DE (Best DE in my mind left, could develop into something)
Thoughts, or Grades?
I Traded our 4th to the Vikings for their 5th, 6th, and 7th.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
Dez Bryant...
As a part time Big 12 aficionado I’ve had the pleasure of watching this kid, and he’s a great talent. I just don’t think he has the discipline to become a stud WR. I have some character concerns with the guy, but I hope he proves me wrong.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Well the first two, are not my picks
Dez Byrant was Lysol’s pick and Tony Pike was Socal’s.
BTW, Just Traded the Extra 6th I had for 2 7th’s.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
That
is a homerun draft IMO. I think we’d be lucky to get a draft that good. It wouldn’t makes us immediate winners next year, but in the long run I think that is a great draft.
I like Bryant
When I speak of the fact we need more playmakers, he comes to mind. We have got to get dangerous at receiver, whichever way our offense decides to go.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
The Way
The senior bowl practices are going, I could see McCluster going in the second.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I wouldn't be
a bit surprised to see him go that high. Especially with the speed guys tearing it up in the league. Desean Jackson, CJ etc
I Would Kill
For the Jaguars to have Desean Jackson. I have a man crush on that guy.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
not so much
Bryant is too big of a risk. He has the measureables but also has less-than-sterling character references and he has also been out of football. Being burned with a succession of WRs in past drafts would make me gun-shy on Bryant, or just about any other WR early. O-line should again be a priority, and there is value at WR in the later rounds, as we have found the last few years.
As an aside, this is also about our offensive philosophy. We arent going to be a flashy team, and we certainly arent going to become one in one year. We dont have the line, the qb, or the receivers for it. Drafting someone like Bryant would be a waste. We can be a tough, game management, grind it out offense with some smart draft picks, offseason signings, and an offseason of further development for some of our young players.
Pike would be a poor choice also. He is tall and lanky and has always struck me as fragile (but thats just a subjective judgement on my part). Like Bryant, he’s too high on the risk side of the equation. When he went out with a wrist injury his backup actually outplayed him, making me question whether Pike is a system QB or not. Further to that point, Pike crumbled playing a good defense (Va Tech) in the Orange bowl with 4 picks. There could be a good QB in the 3rd round with a better resume and a record of long-term production and winning, but I still think this pick needs to be on a D-Line or linebacker.
I love the trades and Dexter McCluster in the 5th. He would create a nightmare matchup especially in packages with MJD and, through screens, shovels, draws, and bubble screens he would make many teams think twice about attacking our (weak) offensive line. Though not an o-line pick, he would make out o-line better.
Church and Wilson would be good developmental/ special teams prospects. I dislike the top of this mock, but do like the bottom, and I also like the trades. I think a specific need to be addressed- in the 3rd/4th round, is a slot/possession receiver. Getting someone tough and with good hands, and giving them the opportunity to learn from Holt, would be key.
Good arguments
not that I agree with though. lol
Other than lying to the NCAA about having lunch with Deion or whoever it was, what else has he been in trouble for? I don’t know. I usually ignore that stuff till later. Normally I’d like to stay away from WR’s in the first round, but he may be the BAP when its our turn to pick.
As for Pike, he has great upside. He may have to move around to get wet in the shower, but he will have time to grow into his frame sitting behind Garrard. As for Collaros doing as well if not better than Pike doesn’t scare me because of 2 things. First Pike was still the better redzone QB, which is super important in the NFL. And second I don’t think Pike was ever a good fit for the spread offense. I think because of the way he makes his decisions(kind of slowly) and because of his height and accuracy(He can throw open a receiver even if he only has 2 or 3 out in routes) he would be better off in a prostyle offense.
Disagree Bro
People say “character concerns.” What did he do, get counseling from Deion Sanders too early? Doesn’t sound like a character problem to me.
Like I said, whichever direction our offense decides to go, we have to get some playmakers. If we turn back to grinding it out on the ground next year, you know how much easier that is with MSW and someone like Dez on the outside.
Defense needs to be addressed as well, I didn’t say I’m selling out on a pick like this, but we need to find some ways to add playmakers. Offensive line needs interior players, which is going to be looked at later in the draft.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
FSU's defense
Am I the only one who remembers how weak that unit was? I like Rolle (who wasn’t a part of the ‘09 squad) because he’s bloody brilliant. Besides that, I don’t know…
Vae Victis!
+1
Like rolle he has the brains that nelson seams to not have. I do not like the pick of bryant in the first let’s try to see about trading that pick or getting a de or a dt like bryon price
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