Let the Draft Talk Begin: Jaguars Fall in Cleveland 23-17
by Brian Fullford on Jan 3, 2010 5:21 PM EST
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The Browns and Jaguars both came into this game on a roll, though not in the same direction. By game's end their respective progression would continue as Cleveland beat Jacksonville 23-17 in a contest not as close as the score would indicate.
If you were a participant on the "in game" threads it seemed we were more passionate about this game than the players were, save possibly Darryl Smith, Zach Miller and less than a handful of others. Dropping the final four games of the season and once again failing to exhibit any sign of life on the road has left a sour taste in the mouths of the fan base.
Though the final drive was a nice way to end the year, it doesn't take away from the disappointment of missed opportunities. That this season seems to mirror 2006 in so many ways, I think, adds to the sour taste. Same quarterback. Same coach. Same collapse.
The Jacksonville defense was man-handled by the Browns offensive front. If any statistics indicate just how this game went it is these:
- Jaguars - 0 sacks, 1 pass defended, 0 quarterback hits
- Browns - 3 sacks, 5 passes defended, 10 quarterback hits
- Jaguars - 24 rushing attempts, 131 yards
- Browns - 49 rushing attempts, 214 yards
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Good quick recap Brian
Well- The rookies looked good (Miller 2TD; M. Thomas-rookie franchise record); Cox INT-4th and the most by anyone from the team; Jennings and Allen)
That 4 loss in the end make our mouth very bitter sadly-BUT to see the good-We will not blame that Miami game….
I think some coaches (NOT JDR) must go- Monachino; and maybe; I said MAYBE Koetter.
JDR job is save-but 2010 will be MAKE OR BREAK for him and the schedule look tough(AFC WEST-2 trip to the west coast..; NFC east nough said..; our division..but at least the 2 X opponent looks like to be Cleveland; and Buffalo…)
David must take a paycut-he is NOT worth 8 million a year-And I think he nows it…
I think 2010 will be the last full year for him(I hope Gene will spent the 2011 1st round pick for a QB!)
Goodbye: Clint; Reggie; Tra; Quentin; (maybe) Brad; (maybe) Vince and I think there will be mnore
Reggie Hayward is a must resign!
Gen should look around in the FA market for another DE too. I know he is not liking FAs but this offseason the Jaguars must go fishing and find some (2-3) DECENT FAs; there will be a lot of FAs-the price will be LOWER then Usual for them-oif you are smart.
Enjoy the postseason
AND PLEASE BCC: POST Wisely-I know it is tough; but posting those FIre JDR-cut David will not help the Jaguars nor us!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 5:47 PM EST reply actions
Glad I didn't see the game
But hearing it on the radio when I was at work today left me in a bad mood for the rest of the day. I think this game showed how far the Jags have fallen off from being the physically dominating team they were only a few years ago. Now, even horrible teams like the Browns are running over them, which is pretty pathetic. At least most of the rookies played reasonably well this year.
The Browns
Offensive line is coming around. They have problems at right tackle, but that line is full of road graders.
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-Akrobatik
straight up
we are the most mediocre team of the decade
by harveyismyboy on Jan 3, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
z.miller
is gonna be the next Dallas Clark
by harveyismyboy on Jan 3, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Mediocre
As in average, not able to get over the hump. And word, Zack Miller is a monster. I’d love to see him catch 60 passes and 7 TDs next year.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
By the way
I hope the Jags will receive at least 2 more draft pics via trade or complimentary. 5 picks is veeeeeeeeery low right now!
We haveles problems then last year-but we need 7-9 picks by Gene.
I hoe we can get back a 2nd rounder for Clint + someone…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:02 PM EST reply actions
NFL Network
Anyone see (or hear) the Jaguars mentioned on the NFL Network over the last hour? I saw a posting on the Jaguars Message Board about the team, but since then the post was deleted. Before I write about it, I’m hoping for a little confirmation.
-Chris
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No
BY the way HI Chris-Your thoughts?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I have been looking for confirmation
But I can’t find anything.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
Vince Lombardi
by Brian Fullford on Jan 3, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, we're clearly on the same page.
I’d re-post what I read, but then I’d be re-posting something third hand that may not be true, so I don’t want to get crazy.
Zoltan,
My new years resolution is to make this the best off-season of coverage at BCC ever. So you won’t have to be surprised when you see me post.
-C
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds good Chris
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/03/report-very-strong-indication-jaguars-are-for-sale/
The jags is moving
This article isn't what I heard.
Glazer’s usually on point, but I’m not so sure I agree with his premise. While the $15 million that Weaver would owe Del Rio is a problem, I don’t think it’s a big factor in a sale of the team.
My gut says that we’re going to hear that Wayne has sold a percentage of the team. He’s never been shy about wanting to take on a minority co-owner, and this would be consistent with his repeated statements that he’s in it to bring a championship to Jacksonville.
But please, enjoy the next few months of Jaguars to LA drama.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to enjoy the last 30 minutes of free drinks at the hotel bar
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 3, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Your thoughts about the game John???
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yay we get to go through this early in the offseason this year
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 3, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Normally this happens in late July...
When Michael Silver writes his annual “rank the owners of the NFL based on how nice they are to me” hack-fest.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
That is bullsh*t
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind
Mike Florio also reported this garbage:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/08/rumors-fly-that-tebow-to-jags-is-a-done-deal/
Exactly.
Though, to his credit, Florio’s gotten better at actually reporting about the Jaguars, though he’s still never heard a Jaguars to LA rumor that he didn’t like.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
BY the way Denver is topping us
as the biggest 4L meltdown in the AFC….
The win over KC is getting bigger and bigger…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, it's a shame that it's meaningless.
Though, that’s a pretty bad attitude on my part. This season saw the Jaguars grow with 30 new faces and an entire draft crop taking the field. While the end is disappointing and there needs to be some pretty big changes, it’s not a “lost” season.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
At least we will have NO nightmares and bitter moments
because of the Miami game.
BNY the way this playoffs will be wicked
I think Colts will lose again; Pats lost Welker; The Jets might go in; so as the Ravens-And SD is the team to beat
NDFC: All of sudden DALLAS is the team to beat; NO looks really bad; Minnesota-well Idon’t know what is about them GB is a sleeper…
And Chris Johnson is might broke the rushing recvord???
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Jamal Charles over 250+ yards
IN DENVER!!!!
And if we see the Marshall situation JMD is on the hot seat not JDR!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
No Baltimore and the Jets will go in I think!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
The New York Jets
Go to the playoffs because the teams they’ve played are already locked in their seed and are playing for “nothing”. After Welker’s knee blew out, you can already count on Cincy playing at half speed.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Jets still have to win to get in, don't they?
Ravens clinched, Broncos are getting whipped, who gets in if Jets lose?
Anyone know our draft order for next year?
curious with our record and the tie breakers….
Jags Fan
Actually between 11-16
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 3, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think it will be # 10 or #11
At least we have a BAP playmaker
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
By te way if Seattle finsih with a TD
we are the 3rd in the AFC South
And that means Dolphins and Steelers instead of Buffalo and Cleveland next year….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:10 PM EST reply actions
Forget it
Titans Won!
We are I think the last in the AFC South?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Yup.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
At least
Browns and Bills instead Steelers and Dolphins…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
By the way if the Jets lose
TEXANS ARE IN!!!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions
You know what
I’d be happy to see the Texans in the Playoffs. They are a good fanbase and could use a little good fortune.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know...
Jets fans were so kind; and the biggets momnet and W would come against a playoff team…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
No.
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by River City Rage on Jan 3, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
Zoltan you'd have to be a native to understand why this guy must go.
We have heard excuse after excuse of why JDR should stay. I have even made some up myself and every year we are faced with the same mediocre product. I’ve heard:
There wasn’t enough talent.
We stopped drafting QBs.
WRs too big and too slow.
Leftwich was bad.
There were periods when we were loaded with talent (2005- 2007) and we did nothing.
What is JDRs record? Like 2 above .500?
A huge December meltdown, 4 game losing streak. Don’t tell me lack of talent is why we lost or rookies. I won’t believe that foolishness.
Why was Garrard never pulled?
How many years has Jack had? 7!
How many coaches have been fired under him?
Don’t give me that Shack Harris bull crap. That’s not an excuse. WRs seemed to do fairly good during the Leftwich era (even Reggie Williams had great numbers!).
This team hasn’t won a division title since like 1998 (or earlier).
How long? How much more time?
This team won’t go anywhere under this coach. I don’t care if we had the greatest drafts in NFL history. NEVER NEVER NEVER.
Our only hope every single year is to squeak by with a Wildcard berth.
Everyone knew we weren’t going to get by the Colts. The Titans were going to give us fits. And the Texans always had our number even going as far as blatant disrespect with their battle red jerseys.
Leftwich got benched in Tampa
So he wasn’t the answer there either. And if you put him behind our current offensive line, it would be a complete disaster
We need a LITTLE MORE PATIENCE
and it will pay off
And don’t forget Peyton Manning is in our divcisio-one of the great NFL QBs.
How many divisional titles ha the other teams since Brady is there? 1-when he was injured.
This team had 3 year of oppurtunity under Jack (because of Harris POOR DRAFTING AND SIGNINGS!) and 2 was gone because of the QB issue.
I want wins but this is the NFL! The lionsdon’T have a winning record since I don’T know. The Cowboys might win 2 weeks from now the 1st time in the pllayoffs since Troy Aikman was the QB…
AND THE LAST POSTSEASON WIN OF THE AFC SOUTH STILL BELONGS TO THIS TEAM!!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Explain how the Titans won the division with the Football Emperor in it.
And Poor Harris drafting is bullshit.
I think it is overblown.
You lost me at Reggie Williams had great numbers under Leftwich. Only year he did anything worth a damn was 07, with Garrard was the QB
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 3, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
We are the mediocre team of the decade
1 year in the new decade would be a nice reminder…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
are you smoking funny weed this evening Z???
I for one have had ENOUGH of being mediocre as far as my team is concerned. I’d like to seriously contend for a divisional title for starters.
by OGN on Jan 3, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
No Clay
I’m hate to see lose my team-but right now it is what it is.
What we expected before the season? Around that.
We faced the reality in the last 4 weekes. Rebuilding early phases-Promising future-What else you want?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Safe to say, I think it's divisional title and/or playoff win or bust for Jack next year
Christian Ponder in 2011! Bring him home Wayne, he can actually play QB in the NFL
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by Jonathan Loesche on Jan 3, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions
Yes-that true!
MAKE OR BREAK for HIM AND&DAVID!!!!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Jack and David press conference
http://www.nfl.com/videos/jacksonville-jaguars/09000d5d815761ca/Jaguars-postgame-press-conference
Jack took the responsibility for the RUN d colleprse; and praised the rookies
David praised the O-line And felt sorry..
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions
Per Michael Wright's Twitter
jagsreporter
JDR appears to be safe. He’ll be w/the Jags next year. You can read why in my story tomorrow.
Such a tease, but that’s one question answered.
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if David takes a paycut and he have selfcritism he will
then he will have 1 last shot too!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
If he has selfcritism he will
Since he is the MAN he won 12 of 32…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I think it depends on
whether or not the Jags have a viable replacement. Otherwise why take a pay cut, if you don’t have to.
Jets lead 7-0
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions
But the other hand if Bengals lose
(and so far they not show so much life)
It would be another good time to read Battle Red Blog-and the emotions of being sooooo close-A halfback pass close to the POs…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
Or...
We could see what crazy thing eliminates the Texans from the playoffs. They always go out in style. Whether that’s halfback pass or Rosencopter, it’s always entertaining.
I just wrote that to the Hungarian gamethread....
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
10-0
And the Bengals offense seems didn’t left Cincy…
I feel sorry for the Texans fans already!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 3, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
MJD is not enough
We need to draft another RB is 1st rnd (+OL in the others), and go back to runing game.
CJ Spiller might be the guy
But I think there will be a lot of talent at Nr. 10…So Don’t know.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Jan 4, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
I do think
we could use another RB, to change up styles a little. And so as not to overuse MJD. But I don’t think that takes a top 10 pick, for a guy that will only split carries.
Jags
How about someone go back and look at my posts from last year..The Jags won’t be here in 2012 watch….The ticket sales is a direct result from the economy and poor performance…Dont blame Shack Harris solely…The head of scouting then was Gene Smith…So all you on the Gene Smith bandwagon need to realize hes part of the problem too…Also Paul Vance Director of Player Personnel or whatever but he does the contracts and approves or disapproves..The reason Shack is gone cause of Joey Porter and Drayton Florence..The amount of money given to them…Now with no cap in 2010 and a work stoppage in 2011 so far….And especially if JDR is still here no one will buy tickets….If Weeaver broguht in the biggest name he can then the Jags in Jville will have a chance to stay and sell tix…
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