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I am a New Yorker so I know a lot as well, so in case you want truthful answers, I am here.

lol, no but seriously, this is going to be a real solid game and I think the injuries to Big Blue might allow the Jaguars to squeak by with a win. Purely based on the rosters they could field if there were no injuries, the Giants are clearly the favorite.

by Jagsrok9008 on Nov 23, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

With the loss of Nicks, and Smith what is your WR corps looking like?

Where do you think the Jaguars are going to attack the most?
Is there panic in NY after the loss the Phili or is there always panic in Giants fans?
What are your expectations of the game in general?

by Jewasaurus on Nov 23, 2010 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch

good questions.

Starters are (presumably) Manningham and Hagan.
I like Manningham but he can make bone headed mistakes sometimes. Hagan is not starting material. He’s okay and can get the job done, but a big drop off from Smith and Hakeem. Behind them are Duke Calhoun (UDFA) who was kept for more of a special teams role, and recently signed Mark Clayton (the guywho used to play for tampa bay). Injuries have taken a huge toll on that position unfortunately.

Seeing as we are without our starting wide recievers and only two members of the oline are playin where they started opening day, I’d expect lots of guys in the box to try and stuff the running game and make Eli beat you. Normally I’d say that’s a position we’d like to be in, but without Smith and Hakeem, I’m not sure if we can reliably make JAX pay for it.

I would not blitz. Eli was amazing cs the blitz against philly, struggling when everyone stayed back because WRs couldn’t get open and trying to force things in tight places.

There’s always panic after a loss. It’s the nature of the beast of being in such a big market. Things might be exacerbated because while there is no real rivalry between the Jets and Giants, the media likes to make it one exclaiming the jets are the best in NY one day, and the giants the next.

Expectations: I’m still thinking win. I can’t say I know nearly as much about JAX as I’d like, but the defense has been solid. While garrard’s been great recently, I think it was your guy over at BBV that pointed out Garrard has had some really ugly games. I think we can provide the pressure to ensure that he has another one of those. Your defense I gotta say I know even less except last year sacks were a problem and may or may not have been solved this year. I think it’ll be low scoring and we’ll churn out a win somehow.

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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it Alfie dissing Garrard?

Because he seems to think less of Garrard than the average fan.
IMO Garrard has stepped up his game this year. Even last game after he had 4 turnovers, he was throwing the ball well enough that it never entered my mind to pull him. Pressure would be an issue. We don’t handle pressure up front too well.

by Brian Levenson on Nov 24, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No

JohnathanAdam are the guys that go around calling Garrard inconsistent or unable to carry a team and etc. Alfie usually keeps his comments about Garrard on BCC.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 24, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh come on, I don’t bash Garrard that hard

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Give me a couple of Pros and a couple of Cons in regards to Eli Manning… and your take on the signing of Michael Clayton (Band-aid? Long term? Maybe a wtf ?)

Sean

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by cuffs007 on Nov 23, 2010 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Oof

Caught us at a bad time. If you saw the game last sunday, that’s Eli at his worst.
He’s seems to be god for at least one bone headed play a a game.
But when his cylinders are firing, he’s amazing.
Ever since the superbowl, it seems like you have to surround him from all sides to sack him. He moves in the pocket real well.
Personally I love him. There’s lots of people who don’t unfortunately.

Clayton is a band-aid, as of now. If he catches on and show he can do what he did as a rookie, hey never can have too much talent. Not expecting it though.

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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I live in NJ

and I hate listening to you Giants fans…god i was so glad to hear you guys not talking on monday….but anyway do you think your run defense can stop MJD? And do you think your Offensive Coordianator is going to concentrate more on the run due to the injuries to your #1 and #2?

by rhettchrystal on Nov 23, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch man that hurt

“you giant fans”

Yes I do. Besides the 50 yarder McCoy broke out last week (sigh…) the run defense has been stellar.
Chris Johnson was limited until garbage time, Foster was shut down, and so on and on.
The only bad run defense game was vs the Colts of all teams back in week 2. We tried a 6 defensive back, 3 defensive end, and 1 linebacker formation that backfired greatly when Peyton decided to run it more than he has in like the past decade.

As for this question, I don’t know. Maybe. But the hurt o-line makes it difficult.

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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant to link "you giant fans"

to this. My bad

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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems to me

Chris Johnson is getting a lot of his yardage in garbage time.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

who knew?

you’d expect that type of response over at BTB. who knew there were secret Giant haters in big cat country?

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by wilddre22 on Nov 24, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

What is the general opinion among Giant fans on Coughlin?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 23, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

*snicker*

There is no consensus, because of the nature of the big media circus.

Week 3 (we’re 1-2): COUGHLIN LOST HIS TEAM< FIRE HIM AND HIRE COWHER

Week 9 (6-2): Best coach evar who ever wanted him fired is a durrr

Now: LOST THE TEAM. GET HIM OUT

And if we go on a run it’ll be back to before.

Me personally, I think he’s a damn good coach and has earned the right to keep coaching until he doesn’t want to anymore.

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Dare bradshaw to run against us..

BEWARE OF POTROAST & D-LINE..our run defense has been stellar, and hope it continues.. Bradshaw better fix his fumbling problems lol. I wish this game was tomorrow seriously, i dont wanna wait til Sunday. But in all seriousness, i think the win for us relies heavily on the play of our o-LINEEEE

by FgallosJAGS on Nov 23, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

I wish every next game

was right now. The waiting sucks

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you get the idea that this is a trap game for the G-men

actually, more like a classic look ahead game even with Coughlin’s history in Jacksonville?

Also, what the hell is wrong with Eli? Feet first dude!

by Joe Fisher on Nov 23, 2010 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sorry

but trap game is my kill trigger.
I’ve heard it way to many times this season already. I doubt it’s a trap game, if one existed, because every game’s near must win now. For all the talk of how the AFC is so much better, it’s really not. The wild card chase is going to be tough. Looksie over here and it’ll explain why

And… I have no defense for that. The annoying thing is while he was running, I was consciously thinking, “don’t fumble the ball like last year where you fall awkwardly. Please.”
Then he falls awkwardly and fumbles. I love Eli as much as a man can love another man, but that’s just bad.

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
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by Willgfass on Nov 23, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember that

fumble last year. That’s around when you all hit rock bottom.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 23, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Well not really

we wrecked the redskins in the next game, than proceeded to get wrecked twice.

But that loss essentially sealed us sitting out on the playoffs

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by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Come on guys, this still doesn’t have enough recs to get it to the top of the fan posts?

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by Jonathan Loesche on Nov 24, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

Couple of question

We know how good the D-line is of the Gianst but how the LBs and the secondayr looking lately?

Hagan&Manningham what can we expect from them?

O-line: Where are the weak points and which part is looking good now?

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 24, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

LBers

are average at best.
Not weak, but not really playmakers. They do their job.
The secondary… has ranged from very good to below average.
Webster has played really well, TT is inconsistent. Some games he’s the best corner on the team, other’s he gets abused. He’s a solid tackler though.
We use 3 safety sets a lot, Phillips and Rolle are the nominal starters, but Grant gets lots of work, sometimes as a “pseudo-linebacker”. They make their plays.

Hagan is okay. Nothing special, average guy. Manningham is an enigma. The slipperiest receiver on the team, he can make a lot of guys miss, and can go deep pretty well. The big knock on him is his route running can be improved a lot. Sometimes doesn’t run routes past the sticks sometimes. Saying that, I think he’s above average and would start on a team that doesn’t have great receivers.

O-Line: The right side is solid. McKenzie has been having a great year at RT and Snee is an All-Pro at RG. Everything to the left gets hairy. We’re down 3 linesman: Our nominal starting LT (Diehl), Our starting center (O’Hara) and our solid backup center (Koets). Because of this, our nominal starting LG (Seubert) is playing center, Shawn Andrews is the LT, and either Boothe or Petrus will play LG. Andrews hasn’t been to bad at LT. Maybe not great, but isn’t sucking.
We can’t run left really well. The most success has been to the right.

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
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by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

giants secondary

Giants secondary is good, pretty sure its top 10 in the league..their pass rush is solid..if they had Smith and Nicks they would match up soo welll against us, but they dont, and they’re they biggest playmakers on offense, so it kind of makes it more interesting. Vs the Eagles, it looked like no one could get anything started on offense, and that was with Nicks in the lineup..I know eagles defense is better than ours, but you never know..

by FgallosJAGS on Nov 24, 2010 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

I have to say

I’ve blocked most of the first half out of my memory already.

But when the Eagles kept everyone in coverage, the other guys couldn’t get open. If they blitzed, Eli made them pay. I wouldn’t blitz if I were the jaguars. At least until the Giants prove that receivers can get open.

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
THIS IS TEMPORARY! A CHAMPIONSHIP IS PERMANENT
-Michael Strahan

by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

MSW's injury hurts us

having msw out of the lineup is rough, we need a wr to step up, if we cant, we should just use Zach miller and the double tight end more frequently..the kid makes plays

by FgallosJAGS on Nov 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

What are your thoughts on Ahmad Bradshaw not being the starter? Do you think he will still see a significant amount of carries still?

by Obst on Nov 24, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions  

Had to be done

Turnovers are killing us. Ahmad’s the fall guy.

I don’t know the plan going forward. I’d expect more 50-50 I guess.

All you hear about is the past, the past... the past is the !@#$ing past, this is the present.
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by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

JPP.... Boom or Bust?

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by FRANKdubz on Nov 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

Why?

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by FRANKdubz on Nov 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

or too early to tell?

Because it’s too early to tell after 10 games?

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by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

well so far........impact wise.....progressing?????

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by FRANKdubz on Nov 24, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been doing what he's been asked

He’s a beast on special teams.

He seems to have a great bull rush.
I’m not an expert on line play, but he looks like he belongs out there.

He’s gotten his time for a “project” (i use that term loosely)

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by Willgfass on Nov 24, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he's progressing

but i think he’s hit a lull in his progression. he’s not getting as much push and penetration recently as he did when we went on that 5 game run. he’s still looking for his first sack, although he did get a nice stop on the goal line last game against Vick. but he’s done what he’s been asked to do, i personally would like to see him take that ‘next’ step.

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by wilddre22 on Nov 24, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

he did pretty well yesterday.....

great at stripping the ball

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by FRANKdubz on Nov 29, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at

who he was playing against at OT.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 30, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

true!

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by FRANKdubz on Nov 30, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He was a gamble.

I would have moved up to get Spiller. He has surprisingly little experience for a first rounder. That said he is an incredible athlete so if he can learn the game he may be OK.

by giant fan since 57 on Nov 26, 2010 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

OMG

great game guys!

Best of luck going forward!

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by Willgfass on Nov 28, 2010 5:14 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks very much

I wish the Giants the same!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 28, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

fun times talking with you guys this week

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by Willgfass on Nov 28, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Our pleasure!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 28, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

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