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Reevaluating Success


Well the Jaguars are now entering Week 13 of the NFL Season and a lot has changed in the 12 weeks that have passed since the beginning of the season. One thing that has changed drastically since the beginning of the season has been the definition of success in regards to the Jaguar's season. Not only has it changed it has changed multiple times within the season alone. So where do we stand? What would we consider as a successful season? Well lets take a look at how our definition of success has changed and reevaluate whether our current definition is where it should be. 

"My expectations are that we're going to be better than average and we're going to be competing for the playoffs -- not just for next year, but for years to come" - Wayne Weaver

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Before the season even started there seem be a disparity in how the Jaguar's season would be considered a success. Wayne Weaver and Jack Del Rio clearly had a lot higher standard then anyone else. Weaver obviously frustrated last season by the series of Black outs that struck the Jaguars as well as two seasons of poor on field performances lead Weaver to initially set the bar high for his coach and players. Weaver can't afford for the Jaguar's to continue to under perform and therefore wanted the best. Based on Weaver's statements, Jack Del Rio in turn agreed with Weaver and set the definition of success as making the playoffs even though the team is only in year 2 of its complete rebuilding and make over process. With the Owner and Coach coming out and publicly setting the bar at the playoff level it immediately put the pressure on the team and especially David Garrard who knew his job was on the line.

Though the Owner and the Coach had come out in saying the Play-offs was the goal, obviously most fans disregarded these statements as wishful thinking. As fans many of use understand that Owners and Coaches often over promote their team in hopes of boosting the team. All the way back in July the fans seem to have a different opinion as to the definition of success and what predictions they had for the team. 

"In all, while this year's team is going to be improved, it may have run into the wrong schedule for everyone to be expecting a playoff push. It's very likely this team will once again be in the 7-9/9-7 range. If they are, I could expect that all things considered." - Jonathan Loesche

Back before the season started BigCatCountry held a site wide poll as to what the fans predicted for the team. The results showed that a majority of the site goers believed the Jaguars as capable of attaining a record of somewhere between 7-9 and 9 - 7 based on their strength of schedule and the talent they held. Based on comments and reactions most people seemed to agree that though they hoped the Jaguars would make a playoff push, realistically they believed the Jaguars would end up with around 8 wins and miss the playoffs. At that point in time it seemed everyone would be content with that outcome, though not considered a massive success, ending around 8 - 8 would still be considering a successful season in that it was a step in the right direction and it gave our talented youth more experience. 

Once the season started this opinion seemed to roller coaster out of control. With the first win over Denver most of the fanbase seemed energized and that hope of a special season seemed to start brewing. The following loses to Philly and San Diego seemed to dash those hopes and expectations. Not only did many start to give up on the season, the expectations seemed to drop dramatically. Even the most optimistic of fans had a hard time imagining the Jaguar's making the playoffs at this point. Alfie said it best:

"Help is not on the way. Hang on guys and gals, the road's gonna be bumpy." - Alfie

Once again we all had seem to come to the agreement that success would be definition by individual player improvement and not by record. The Jaguars seemed to be on the road to another poor season but once again the Jaguars got back on track with a miracle win versus the Colts and then a solid win against the Bills. Then back to back loses to the Titans and the Chiefs seem to once again doom the Jaguars but again they rebounded and somehow are still atop the division entering Week 13. The problem is that now that the Jaguars have a share of the lead in the AFC South and have a winning record, every fans perception of success has been drastically changed. What started as simply wanting a decent season and player improvement has turned into playoffs or bust. The question though, is that fair to expect?

This team is only in year 2 of its rebuilding process and many of the teams biggest players are still very very young. This presence of youth was the man reason most of us expected only average results this season. Also to keep in mind is that the Jaguars have very much overachieved and have caught some very lucky breaks over the course of the season (i.e. Hail Mary). This team is a pretty good team but should we really consider this season only a success if they make the playoffs? I say no. I think the play-off hope has taken over most of us and we have started to think we SHOULD make the playoffs when really we should only be hoping.

No matter the season outcome record wise, I will still see this season as a success and I hope everyone agrees with me. The team has seemingly developed many of its youth players into solid performers. Mike Thomas has shined, Monroe has held his own, Knighton has become a monster on the line, Alualu has also performed great, and a host of others have started to become solid players. The one thing that makes me already think of this season as a success is this teams character and poise. 

"We will pay good money to see good guys play good football, but not to watch self-absorbed knuckleheads quit because something doesn't go their way. The fans are starting to return." - ruffdaddy

The team has showed amazing character throughout this season. They have no had diva moments, we have not season any fights within the team as in past years and we have not seen any glory hogs. This team, is a team, they play their hardest and put in that extra effort. It is no fluke that this team has overachieved because this team has fought hard together and have had some lucky bounces which I personally see as a reward for their hard work. To me I see a team that has successful developed in a great core of guys that will work hard for years in Jaguars uniforms. 

Overall I believe that Jaguars fans need to lower there standards. I hope the Jaguars make the play-offs as much as anyone else, but I think it is unfair to expect it. This team is young and raw still and needs a little more time to gel and develop some of its talent. This season though has already been a success though, no matter the outcome. The Jaguars have found something we have been looking for for a long time, a future. As I watching this team play every week, no matter if they win or lose, I see a group of future perennial pro-bowlers, who not only play hard but work even harder. So I say, Good Luck to the team we are all routing for you and thanks for a great season so far.

-Kterr

Poll
As of Week 12, What would you think will make the Jaguar's season a success?
Play-offs only
166 votes
7+ wins and Player Development
191 votes
Player Development
22 votes
Doesn't Matter, Already a Success
87 votes
Other (Post to Comments)
8 votes

474 votes | Poll has closed

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Confused about how to feel

I’ve got really mixed feelings about this team and what it needs to do for this to be a successful season. In some ways, they have already exceeded my expectations by playing better than I thought this young team could (obviously, I’m talking about our recent wins). I really believe this team is WAY better than it was a the beginning of the season – fewer mistakes and more chemistry are evidence of this, in both D and O.

Yesterday’s game against the Giants exemplifies my mixed feelings. Before the game, I truly thought we had very little chance of winning against a team with plenty of talent, especially on defense. By half-time, I found myself thinking “wow, this Jags team is maybe closer to being a real contender than I thought”. By the end, I was grumpy that we blew it. From expecting us to lose, to being amazed at how good we were, to being pissed at losing…. all in the space of 4 quarters of football.

I know the blow out losses were terrible, but this team has come a long way. I don’t think we need to make the playoffs for that to remain true. Having said that, I’m really starting to think we could make the playoffs and I will be majorly disappointed if we don’t make them. But, if I’m completely honest with myself, I think this team is actually performing better than it’s current talent level. No team with as poor a secondary as ours should realistically make the playoffs in such a pass happy league.

I’m confused :)

by KeithG on Nov 29, 2010 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

I made the analogy a couple weeks ago

that this team is like that scene in Days of Thunder when Cole returns after the big wreck with Rowdy. Anyway, he’s racing and not saying a word in the car. Harry (crew chief) keeps asking if he’s ok as he is not sure what to make of his driver’s silence. So, first big wreck occurs a couple turns ahead of him. All you see is a huge cloud of smoke. So, Cole gets to the wreck and cars just keep peeling off and rolling down to the apron. Finally the last car clears and he makes it through unscathed. Smooth sailing.

Point is, don’t know how we got where we are but we’re here. 5 games to make our own luck. As I said yesterday,

Why not now? and Why not us?

by Joe Fisher on Nov 29, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

good honest post..+1

I hear Mike Mayock say the other day on playbook that our jags are 1 or 2 years away from a solid team..Honestly i think Mayocks a really smart analyst. and he was actually serious when he said this. I also believe this, i feel like 1 or 2 more years of experience for the younger players, some good drafting from Gene on positions we drastically need, and we have ourselves an up and coming playoff contender. I can also feel MJD’s frustrations, the guy wants to win sooo bad, i feel so bad for the guy cause he cant do it all, hes been so consistent since he got here..but as for playoffs, were definitely in the hunt, so lets try and make it because we could very well finish 10-6, longshot to winout and finish 11-5 with a win in IND, but anything can happen, mannings not hot, lets take the ride and see what happens to finish the last 5 games, GO JAGS

by FgallosJAGS on Nov 29, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

I just hope he's not our Don Mattingly

in which we finally make the promised land and he’s just retired or on IR.

by Joe Fisher on Nov 29, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats funny.

That’s what all of us are thinking, I guess we all think alike:) If we keep adressing our needs in Free Agency, and in the draft, just think about it,we need a overhaul of the secondary(besides Cox), we need an elite player to replace Durant, we need some elite ends(2 when AK not here, but I think the pass ruash can wait a year or 2, with AK we can ride his wagon, until he retires.) Right now we need to adress QB the secondary, and I think we need a true #1. #1s in most places don’t drop balls very often, and ours drops quite a few.

by rhettchrystal on Nov 29, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

then.....

then….we can adress the pass rush.

by rhettchrystal on Nov 29, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yuppp

i think even cox has been shaky and got burned, but hes still young and needs more confidence..and hasn’t been getting a whole lot of help from carey. Our d tackles in ALUALU and potroast are by far the strongest part of our defense..our d-ends aren’t as bad as we think if kampman comes back, linebackers needs to improve..i hope we draft herzlich in the 3rd or 4th round(too close to call when heel be there)..secondary needs most improvement..on offense our o-line is pretty good, have who i think is the best overall on and off the field hard working running back in mjd( prob biased), good fullback, our tight-ends are solid..i love mike thomas, i like garrards heart and determination, but we all know his inconsistency and age, so i think we can all agree we need an up and coming solid qb, a REAL #1 WR would be sooo helpful to us as well..glad we all agree on what big Gene needs to accomplishh

by FgallosJAGS on Nov 29, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Durant has been our best LB this year

When he’s been healthy and playing this year, he has been our best LB. He’s been making tackles for loss and showing that he is the fastest LB, outperforming D Smith even.

WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?

by BIBBEE on Nov 29, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

why am i the only one to rec this?

Surreal to be Teal

by Surteal on Nov 29, 2010 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

And so true. Considering this is the latest we’ve been in 1st place since 1999, that’s a terrific amount of success for a team picked to be last by everyone outside Jacksonville, and mediocre at best inside Jacksonville.

Haters gonna hate.

by MoveThoseChains on Nov 29, 2010 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

Considering we already have 6 wins

I would say 8+ wins and player development. And of course, sweeping the Colts :)

by ScottyD4Life on Nov 29, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

We're in a position to win our division, that is what success is in any year.

That’s the ultimate goal and while the wild card is a secondary goal, the Colts are fluttering, the Titans have all sorts of problems, and the Texans may never achieve “what they’re capable of.” We have a real chance this year, thus the only form of success would be the playoffs.

I think any year is the same, playoffs or bust. The good thing about this team is that our sun isn’t setting, we’re just rising. We still need players in virtually every position (DT, TE, and RB being the sole exceptions), but some of those holes may be filled by progressing players.

The nucleus is forming and the arrow is pointing up. Can you imagine 2, 5, or 10 years of drafts with players like Knighton, Thomas, and Monroe? Not to mention the many solid players like Britton, Cox, Alualu, Karim, and Miller? Then there are the other rookies this year and let’s not forget we’ll get Dillard and DA Smith back next year.

If Gene’s players progress like they should and he keeps piling them on, then we’ll be consistent contender. Garrard has shown us, at times, what a great QB can do for a team and I hope that in this upcoming draft Gene does whatever it takes to get the next QB for the Jags.

by rws591 on Nov 29, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

Finish strong and player development

If we finish strong like a winning record the next 5 games 3-2 or better I will feel it is a success. None of the options addressed that so I said “Playoffs”. If we win next week we are sitting at the exact same record as last year at this point, this then would be the last 4 games that will ultimately decide JDR’s and staffs future. So a win v.s Oakland we would be 8-5 and the Colts game would be the one to decide things, if we win that then if we DID NOT make the playoffs I would be very heart broken as we would only have to win one more game. (pref. v.s Houston) in order to win division and go to the playoffs. That is what keeps my hopes up guys thinking positively and letting fate take its course! BELIEVE! GO JAGS!

by Demetrius82 on Nov 29, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Great post

I think continued improvement of our young players and good hard fought games that we either are in or win would be great for me. I picked us to win 9 games at the start and we still have a chance to do that and even more!

This post is completely necessary by the way, this place is a crappy sight after losses to be honest with you. There has been too much venom methinks, especially after a loss to a team that is better then us in most if not all areas who we battled and had a shot to beat at the end. We should be praising more then hating.

by jstnblke41 on Nov 29, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

For this season to be a sucess, i want to see the Jags be competitive in each game

For the rest of the season. That would show a huge amount of character and developement in my opinion. Oh, and the playoffs would be nice too.

by kujo24 on Nov 29, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

9-7...

is my gauge for success, period. In 2008, the year we were supposed to win the Superbowl; what a joke that was, we finish 5-11. 2009, the first year of the Gene Smith era, we overachieve and finish 7-9. And now here we are 2010, year two in the rebuilding and can win the division. I say a two win improvement from last year and Jack Del Rio keeping his job should be successful season. I know some people want another coach, but Jack is the HC these players want leading them and that should account for a lot. If anything, he could use some better coordinators. It’s obvious our young players are developing, so I’ll leave that out of my equation for evaluating success. The only question mark for me is Eben Britton. He got hurt mid-way through the season, so what does that do to his development? Also we’ll get D’Anthony back, so the d-line will be bolstered more and Scotty McGee should return and add an additional spark to our punt return position. And one last thing, I don’t know how many sacks the Jags have, but if they finish with 30+, that will be a big part of this season being a success.

by kjones407 on Nov 30, 2010 6:36 AM EST reply actions  

Since the big problem for this team....

is ticket sales, I think that two things are important for the season to be considered a success. First, we need to be in the hunt down to the last home game. For that to be the case, we need to win the next three games. In doing so, we gain at least a 2 game lead on the Titans and a one game lead on Indy (plus with the sweep, the big tie breaker of head to head goes in our direction). We then face a struggling Redskins, and if the team is in position to take the division, we should get the stadium full enough to avoid the blackout even with the game being Dec. 26! Depending on what Houston and Tenn do in there final 5 games, that home win could give the Jags the division win. A division clinching win at home would do wonders for this city and its opinion of the Jags.
That brings me to my second “requirement” for a successful season. We need to make the playoffs. The beauty of it is if the above events happen, they lead to a playoff spot. I know this seams like a tall order, but this team can do it, and if they do, I believe the passion the City of Jacksonville had for this team will be rejuvenated, and ticket problems will be a thing of the past!

by GAJAGFAN on Nov 30, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

More than likely, actually.

It would be a stretch for us to get to 11 wins… and I doubt any of the 4 teams that will end up in the WC spots, NYJ/NE – PIT/BAL will have less than 11.

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's, or LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Dec 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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