Rumor: Jaguars interested in Kevin Kolb?
Rumor: According to the internet grape vine, the Jaguars are interested in Eagles back up QB Kevin Kolb. The reported initial offer is that the Jaguars would send their first round pick (10/11) to the Eagles for their first round pick (24) and Kolb.
BCC's Take: As of right now, I have to say it's bogus, or far from a done deal if there is validity to it. Matt Cassell's 2nd round price tag was reported to be a "discount", while the Texans had to include two second round picks to grab Matt Schaub from Atlanta. Not to mention Donovan McNabb's name once again showing up in trade rumors, and who knows what. IF the Jags are serious about Kolb, I think swapping first round picks and next year's 2nd rounder is a much more likely asking price.
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Kolb is the type of QB any franchise would want.
Strong Arm, Smart, and Mobile.
Kind of reminds me of Aaron Rodgers a little bit. I doubt Gene would give up the 11th pick unless Kolb’s value exceeded anyone in the draft class and he was going to be given the starting spot. No way you trade that pick away to get a backup.
Kolb is an instant upgrade over Garrard. But from what I here, the Eagles want to keep him around as McNabb will be retiring soon.
on the plus side, he does get the ball out fast
his arm is weaker but if Koetter engineers it correctly with comeback routes a lot of the time. we’d be fine.
Garrard always got knocked for his deep ball, but i think hes got a very strong arm. Kolb could hit an open guy deep, but i wouldnt expect small windows deep a la Rodgers, Cutler, Favre
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Speaking of comeback routes
Isn’t that what Brees is good at?
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yep
i learned it from someone on TV
not my observation. They were talking about how Brees did not have elite arm strength but that he was elite at seeing the field and getting the ball out quickly.
I think Kolb can be that. He needs to pay more attention to guys jumping curl routes but otherwise i think he’s fine, whatever thats worth.
he did well against us in the pre-season, i believe.
heres a video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEI331uXFZ0
i’ll embed in the fanshots so its easier
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It's also why
he throws so many seam routes. They don’t take arm strength as much as vision and accuracy.
It's a tolerable weakness
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by TheTealDeal on Feb 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't Anquan Boldin
Coming here last year?
In all seriousness though, I’m a David G. supporter, but this trade could turn out in our favor if the asking price really is that low.
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i think he said he wanted to go home to florida
and people on here lobbied for it. I might be wrong, but thats how i remember it
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+100000000000000
he looked really good with his starting time on the eagles
I doubt it. I believe the inital offer was sent from the Jags to the Eagles. Like I said, I think swapping ones and the Jags 2nd rounder in 2011 is what it'll take, IF the Eagles want to ship Kolb
by Jonathan Loesche on Feb 13, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be okay with giving up our future 2nd
in reality it be a 13 or 14 spot drop in the 1st and a 2nd.
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jonathan
do you know anything about that FSU linebacker on draftteks mock draft?
i’ve never seen him
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In unrelated news
In the 4th round mock draft at mockingthedraft.com, I picked Mike Iupati, G, Idaho at the 11th spot.
I went to the hardcore Vic drafting approach and got what I thought was the best value. Feedback?
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although
i have a “man-crush” on Bradford. quick release and great footwork.
long-term… I think you made the smart move. The only thing in that particular situation is that i would’ve traded back about 4 or 5.
It’s a great selection, however. That cat is a beast!!!
Smart trumps sexy everyday, except at a strip joint.
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i would of loved to trade down
but trades weren’t allowed in this draft.
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its happening right now
I’m somewhat relieved that you like it :)
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i think interior linemen are underappreciated
as someone pointed out in a great post to our right, We passed on Mangold for marcedes lewis (i think).
Could you imagine having Mangold © on our team? WOW! then add lupati, we’re looking great.
Too bad we only get one choice in these two round mocks. its less fun to play haha
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I can imagine it
in retrospect I’m happy with getting Mercedes but then I would never draft a TE in the `st.
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I think lineman in general are underappreciated.
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also love it
when there’s a chance you’re drafting the best run blocking guard in years, it isn’t a stretch to pick him in the 1st.
Two words
HATE IT!
No pick BAP with that 10/11; nad pick a good looking franchise QB next year. I have serious doubt in Kolb! But that is just me!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Giving up a 1st would be like drafting him this year.
He in my opinion is better than anyone on the board at that pick. He might even be a slight steal because he would be better than anyone chosen before him.
Yeah I watched him
in 2008 and in 2009. He was impressive in 2009; but pathethic in 2008. Which is his real face? That is the question…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Plus I have another big question about this
If Kevin Kolb is a good franchise QB; why wqould Phily let him go for relatively cheap????
Sorry; I don’T want this; and I don’t buy this trade! I hope just another Prisco BS
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 11:35 PM EST reply actions
.
I’ll take him, deff. upgrade/upside
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 13, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
ladies and gentlemen… the official start to the draft/trade Smoke & Mirrors show has begun
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Yeah....
April 22nd can’t come soon enough…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Kolb
I was actually just mentioning to a friend the other day about us possibly acquiring Kolb…If this were to come to fruition I would be pretty excited to have him come here and play for us.
We need Floridafalcon here
he might know if Prisco’s rumour is BS or is it for real.
BY the way; Micheal C Wright wrote this about the Kolb thing:
Really doubt that. Doesn’t that sound too good to be true? Under those types of conditions, it usually IS too good to be true.
I think the real question is: Kolb> Garrard? Cause I see in him the same Good but not greta" QB as David i. Do we want more of the same?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 6:10 AM EST reply actions
better
He’s better…. A welcome change.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I saw it
I still not sold on him….
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Is that not enough?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
ha
Drew Brees doesn’t have an elite arm and look where he is? Just because a qb doesn’t have an absolute cannon for an arm doesn’t mean he won’t succeed. I’m not saying that Kolb is Brees but it just shows that it’s not all about arm strength necessarily.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
2008!!!
Zoltan, Kolb barely had 30 pass attempts in 08’. Not enough to call him out on, not for me anyways.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Okay I might overreacting the thing
but I somehow not like this trade. If it turns out to be a great trade (IF THE TRADE HAPPENS) I will be apologizes for a looooong time.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
haha
If he comes here and sucks I will be the one apologizing bud.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
We came to an agreement
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I trust in Zoltan's greater Wisdom
he is 6 or so hours ahead of us
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Ah
That is not a big advantage…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Anyhow this isn't happening because Reid loves Kolb.
And once McNabb is gone Kolb will take over.
Plus if I was an Eagles GM I’d want at minimum a 1st and 2nd rounder.
Lets say this:
If we trade this years first and next years second for Kolb and their first all we dont lose that much. Kolb would basically be a second round pick. I think it will come down to this. BAP, Think about it. if Gene Smith feels that Kolb is better then anyone he can pick at the 10-11 spot, and the eagles want someone there i think that its a fair deal. Also, it brings alot of energy to jacksonville. I think it would help to sell some tickets because some fair weather fans really dont like garrard at all. Seeing Kolb come in would raise ALOT of excitement from this team and a lot of covergae by the media. just saying this could save the jaguars. or comepletely break them
Kolb...
Wouldn’t get past week 1 w/o being put on IR. People forget those games he was lighting teams up was against the AFC WEST!!!
I’ll take Garrard for now and find a QB in this or next years draft.
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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 1:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Jags should stick to formula...
BAP…they should sign that G (can’t remember the name right now) from the Pats or J Pep…both of those players will impact DG…J Pep will give the O more touches and that G will not allow all those crazy blitz up the middle…
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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 1:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Peppers
Formula? If you call giving Peppers a max contract then I guess so… He bitches about wanting to be a 3-4 linebacker and seems to lack some maturity, no thanks.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
yup
I can’t imagine Gene spending like that, not for him anyways.
by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
all 3 Eagles QB's have contracts ending at the end of the 2010 season
they will have to move somebody to sign somebody
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QB
I know the Jags have plenty of holes but I believe that we need a franchise option if not this year, then the next. It’s a qb league
So...
are we ever gonna get anything beyond a rumor on this topic?
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I hope so, I like this trade a lot.
I am big on Kolb. Now that the Eagles have all those play makers, McNabb is happy and playing well. The Eagles will resign him. Thats my prediction for him but whether or not that impacts a trade for Kolb I dont know. Hope so.
it’s Smoke and Mirrors time… i see Philly playing it up pretty good right now… “We want Donovan again… No, we’ve endured enough of Donovan… what kinda trade can we get for him?” … “Hey, Kolb is our man of the future… No, we have not given him a contract extension… what kinda trade can we get for him?”
The stuff in quotes is NOT actually anything someone in the Eagles camp has said… just me… but you see what I’m getting at? this is the time of year when a lot of misdirection is tossed around to garner interest in possible scenarios… every single team in the NFL does it… some make it to the news media, some just make it thru the halls of different organizations…ok, i’ll shut up now.
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Garrard...
Didn’t light up the AFC west? Lol…if you recall that’s the year the jags made it to the playoffs and DG threw 3 picks…and DG beat the Steelers twice…yeah DG got paid off that year at the expense of the AFC WEST!!!
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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
To add...
Kolb maybe a good prospect, but IDK…he was in the Eagles system (don’t compare Andy Reid offense to Coach K; totally different) for a few years before he got his chance. Like I said, that kid wouldn’t survive a Jeff Fisher or Colt defense…DG had his flaws, but he’s not problem w the team…
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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 8:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
David Garrard at his very best is a game manager
In 2007 he did a phenomenal job at not screwing things up. Since then he has had games where he looks like 2007 Garrard and games where he makes bad decisions and hurts the Jaguars’ chances.
If Kolb can come in and be something more than that or even just be a consistent week-in, week-out game manager, then I’m all for it.
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from Don Banks at si.com
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES — How will the Eagles three-headed quarterback situation shake out?
Andy Reid has said Donovan McNabb will return for the final year of his contract, and No. 5 says that’s his understanding as well. The Eagles love Kevin Kolb and won’t trade him unless somebody blows their doors off (Cleveland?). And Philly even says it has the luxury of bringing back Michael "Wildcat’’ Vick at $5 million. But don’t count on it.
The Eagles reportedly are already listening to teams interested in McNabb (Denver, Cleveland and Buffalo), and there’s a chance Brad Childress and the Vikings might even give up a first-round pick (No. 30) for him if Brett Favre retires (again). More likely, the Eagles would have to settle for second- and fourth-round picks. I also expect Philly to shop Vick for a mid-round pick, and St. Louis still makes the most logical destination.
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As I said
the offseason is officialy kicked off…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
For those who are fans of drafting a QB... are you sure you don't want Clausen?
Assuming the price climbs from our alleged offer there must come a point in time where you’d just prefer to draft Clausen?
I don't know man
The more I watch of Clausen, the more I become a fan. I’d definitely take Kolb over Bradford, but I have to say I’d rather have Clausen over Kolb.
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A guy who could go #1 overall
I’d take him if he fell even though it’d be similar to what happened to Brady Quinn
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by TheTealDeal on Feb 15, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
But I think Clausen has more talent than Quinn. Same accuracy with more arm strength, running ability, and in my opinion, football intelligence. The guy only threw four picks last season.
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a nifty stat from ESPN labs on the football inteligence thing
Counting games at Michigan, at Michigan State, vs. USC, vs. Boston College, vs. Connecticut and at Stanford he made only four bad decisions in 224 passes; a 1.7 percent bad-decision rate, good enough to be a top 10-15 quarterbacks if it were accomplished at the NFL level.
Lot’s of qualifications in that statement, but I thought it was worth thinking through. Only thing is I know know enough about NCAA to figure out if those opponents were any good. I’m thinking not so much.
Those Opponents
Aren’t great, but they are respectable. USC and Boston College both field good defenses. Connecticut had a squad that played well at times.
But yeah, if Clausen can bring his college success to the pros I think he has potential to be an elite quarterback within three years of being drafted. This is a weak draft class for QBs, but I think Clausen is a real player.
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As far as I know, Pete Prisco said it first
I don’t know if he got it from somewhere else, but he definitely reported it before we did.
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Kolb
Instant upgrade, but I doubt it will happen.
I just had a thought
The Eagles have a big need at free safety. How would you guys feel if we threw in Reggie Nelson in this deal to lighten the load on giving up draft picks?
In that scenario maybe the Jaguars and Eagles swap first rounders, Kolb and Nelson switch teams, and the Jaguars throw in a mid to late round pick to finish the deal.
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...now with THAT I would be 100% on board.
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by MoveThoseChains on Feb 16, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
blah. let's move on.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/9467/scouts-inc-on-kevin-kolb
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exactly...
it’s not very likely they trade kolb. Also, this is what Harbaugh had to say about him when he went to the Ravens.
``All I know is I saw Kevin Kolb every day in practice for the year I was the secondary coach when he was the guy going against the defense as the scout team quarterback,’’ Harbaugh said. ``When we did red zone, we couldn’t defend him. I mean he’d run the red zone offense for the team we were going to play. We had the No. 1-ranked red-zone defense in the league 2 years ago. And we couldn’t stop Kevin Kolb. Throwing to Mike Gasperson every day in practice. He picked us apart. (The coaches) love him. He’s got all the tools. He’s a leader. He’s tough. He plays the game the right way.’’
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
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