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Rumor: Jaguars interested in Kevin Kolb?

Rumor: According to the internet grape vine, the Jaguars are interested in Eagles back up QB Kevin Kolb. The reported initial offer is that the Jaguars would send their first round pick (10/11) to the Eagles for their first round pick (24) and Kolb.

BCC's Take: As of right now, I have to say it's bogus, or far from a done deal if there is validity to it. Matt Cassell's 2nd round price tag was reported to be a "discount", while the Texans had to include two second round picks to grab Matt Schaub from Atlanta. Not to mention Donovan McNabb's name once again showing up in trade rumors, and who knows what. IF the Jags are serious about Kolb, I think swapping first round picks and next year's 2nd rounder is a much more likely asking price.

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Kolb is the type of QB any franchise would want.

Strong Arm, Smart, and Mobile.

Kind of reminds me of Aaron Rodgers a little bit. I doubt Gene would give up the 11th pick unless Kolb’s value exceeded anyone in the draft class and he was going to be given the starting spot. No way you trade that pick away to get a backup.

Kolb is an instant upgrade over Garrard. But from what I here, the Eagles want to keep him around as McNabb will be retiring soon.

by Slvrgun on Feb 13, 2010 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't be so sure

he would be an instant upgrade.

by Ewdtrey on Feb 13, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

on the plus side, he does get the ball out fast

his arm is weaker but if Koetter engineers it correctly with comeback routes a lot of the time. we’d be fine.

Garrard always got knocked for his deep ball, but i think hes got a very strong arm. Kolb could hit an open guy deep, but i wouldnt expect small windows deep a la Rodgers, Cutler, Favre

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of comeback routes

Isn’t that what Brees is good at?

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

i learned it from someone on TV

not my observation. They were talking about how Brees did not have elite arm strength but that he was elite at seeing the field and getting the ball out quickly.

I think Kolb can be that. He needs to pay more attention to guys jumping curl routes but otherwise i think he’s fine, whatever thats worth.

he did well against us in the pre-season, i believe.

heres a video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEI331uXFZ0

i’ll embed in the fanshots so its easier

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also why

he throws so many seam routes. They don’t take arm strength as much as vision and accuracy.

by Ewdtrey on Feb 15, 2010 4:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a tolerable weakness

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Anquan Boldin

Coming here last year?

In all seriousness though, I’m a David G. supporter, but this trade could turn out in our favor if the asking price really is that low.

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by Bestjagfan on Feb 13, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

i think he said he wanted to go home to florida

and people on here lobbied for it. I might be wrong, but thats how i remember it

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

jonathan

do you know anything about that FSU linebacker on draftteks mock draft?

i’ve never seen him

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

In unrelated news

In the 4th round mock draft at mockingthedraft.com, I picked Mike Iupati, G, Idaho at the 11th spot.

I went to the hardcore Vic drafting approach and got what I thought was the best value. Feedback?

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

LOVE IT

is it up now, or do we have to wait?

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

although

i have a “man-crush” on Bradford. quick release and great footwork.

long-term… I think you made the smart move. The only thing in that particular situation is that i would’ve traded back about 4 or 5.

It’s a great selection, however. That cat is a beast!!!

Smart trumps sexy everyday, except at a strip joint.

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i would of loved to trade down

but trades weren’t allowed in this draft.

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

its happening right now

I’m somewhat relieved that you like it :)

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i think interior linemen are underappreciated

as someone pointed out in a great post to our right, We passed on Mangold for marcedes lewis (i think).

Could you imagine having Mangold © on our team? WOW! then add lupati, we’re looking great.

Too bad we only get one choice in these two round mocks. its less fun to play haha

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by Surteal on Feb 13, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I can imagine it

in retrospect I’m happy with getting Mercedes but then I would never draft a TE in the `st.

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think lineman in general are underappreciated.

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 13, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

also love it

when there’s a chance you’re drafting the best run blocking guard in years, it isn’t a stretch to pick him in the 1st.

by alsonot on Feb 14, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Two words

HATE IT!

No pick BAP with that 10/11; nad pick a good looking franchise QB next year. I have serious doubt in Kolb! But that is just me!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

Giving up a 1st would be like drafting him this year.

He in my opinion is better than anyone on the board at that pick. He might even be a slight steal because he would be better than anyone chosen before him.

by Slvrgun on Feb 14, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I watched him

in 2008 and in 2009. He was impressive in 2009; but pathethic in 2008. Which is his real face? That is the question…

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When did you watch him in 2008? The half or so he played in relief of McNabb once or twice?

He really never played in 2008. The first two starts(and significant playing time) of his career came in 2009.

by JasonB on Feb 16, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus I have another big question about this

If Kevin Kolb is a good franchise QB; why wqould Phily let him go for relatively cheap????

Sorry; I don’T want this; and I don’t buy this trade! I hope just another Prisco BS

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 11:35 PM EST reply actions  

.

I’ll take him, deff. upgrade/upside

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 13, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

ladies and gentlemen… the official start to the draft/trade Smoke & Mirrors show has begun

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by cuffs007 on Feb 13, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah....

April 22nd can’t come soon enough…

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 13, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Kolb

I was actually just mentioning to a friend the other day about us possibly acquiring Kolb…If this were to come to fruition I would be pretty excited to have him come here and play for us.

by flint on Feb 14, 2010 4:02 AM EST reply actions  

We need Floridafalcon here

he might know if Prisco’s rumour is BS or is it for real.

BY the way; Micheal C Wright wrote this about the Kolb thing:

Really doubt that. Doesn’t that sound too good to be true? Under those types of conditions, it usually IS too good to be true.

I think the real question is: Kolb> Garrard? Cause I see in him the same Good but not greta" QB as David i. Do we want more of the same?

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 6:10 AM EST reply actions  

better

He’s better…. A welcome change.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Zoltan

go read the fanshots

i put up a kolb video

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by Surteal on Feb 14, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw it

I still not sold on him….

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

can you point any flaws you noticed?

besides lack of elite arm

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by Surteal on Feb 14, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that not enough?

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

Drew Brees doesn’t have an elite arm and look where he is? Just because a qb doesn’t have an absolute cannon for an arm doesn’t mean he won’t succeed. I’m not saying that Kolb is Brees but it just shows that it’s not all about arm strength necessarily.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

2008!!!

Zoltan, Kolb barely had 30 pass attempts in 08’. Not enough to call him out on, not for me anyways.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay I might overreacting the thing

but I somehow not like this trade. If it turns out to be a great trade (IF THE TRADE HAPPENS) I will be apologizes for a looooong time.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

If he comes here and sucks I will be the one apologizing bud.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We came to an agreement

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHA

great stuff

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by Surteal on Feb 14, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I trust in Zoltan's greater Wisdom

he is 6 or so hours ahead of us

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 14, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah

That is not a big advantage…

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyhow this isn't happening because Reid loves Kolb.

And once McNabb is gone Kolb will take over.

Plus if I was an Eagles GM I’d want at minimum a 1st and 2nd rounder.

by Slvrgun on Feb 14, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Lets say this:

If we trade this years first and next years second for Kolb and their first all we dont lose that much. Kolb would basically be a second round pick. I think it will come down to this. BAP, Think about it. if Gene Smith feels that Kolb is better then anyone he can pick at the 10-11 spot, and the eagles want someone there i think that its a fair deal. Also, it brings alot of energy to jacksonville. I think it would help to sell some tickets because some fair weather fans really dont like garrard at all. Seeing Kolb come in would raise ALOT of excitement from this team and a lot of covergae by the media. just saying this could save the jaguars. or comepletely break them

by hawk16lx on Feb 14, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Kolb...

Wouldn’t get past week 1 w/o being put on IR. People forget those games he was lighting teams up was against the AFC WEST!!!

I’ll take Garrard for now and find a QB in this or next years draft.

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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 1:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Jags should stick to formula...

BAP…they should sign that G (can’t remember the name right now) from the Pats or J Pep…both of those players will impact DG…J Pep will give the O more touches and that G will not allow all those crazy blitz up the middle…

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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 1:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Peppers

Formula? If you call giving Peppers a max contract then I guess so… He bitches about wanting to be a 3-4 linebacker and seems to lack some maturity, no thanks.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

I can’t imagine Gene spending like that, not for him anyways.

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

all 3 Eagles QB's have contracts ending at the end of the 2010 season

they will have to move somebody to sign somebody

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by Surteal on Feb 14, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

QB

I know the Jags have plenty of holes but I believe that we need a franchise option if not this year, then the next. It’s a qb league

by kickandsnare07 on Feb 14, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

So...

are we ever gonna get anything beyond a rumor on this topic?

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by dan073eb on Feb 14, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

I hope so, I like this trade a lot.

I am big on Kolb. Now that the Eagles have all those play makers, McNabb is happy and playing well. The Eagles will resign him. Thats my prediction for him but whether or not that impacts a trade for Kolb I dont know. Hope so.

by JagSoldier on Feb 14, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s Smoke and Mirrors time… i see Philly playing it up pretty good right now… “We want Donovan again… No, we’ve endured enough of Donovan… what kinda trade can we get for him?” … “Hey, Kolb is our man of the future… No, we have not given him a contract extension… what kinda trade can we get for him?”

The stuff in quotes is NOT actually anything someone in the Eagles camp has said… just me… but you see what I’m getting at? this is the time of year when a lot of misdirection is tossed around to garner interest in possible scenarios… every single team in the NFL does it… some make it to the news media, some just make it thru the halls of different organizations…ok, i’ll shut up now.

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by cuffs007 on Feb 14, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Garrard...

Didn’t light up the AFC west? Lol…if you recall that’s the year the jags made it to the playoffs and DG threw 3 picks…and DG beat the Steelers twice…yeah DG got paid off that year at the expense of the AFC WEST!!!

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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 8:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

To add...

Kolb maybe a good prospect, but IDK…he was in the Eagles system (don’t compare Andy Reid offense to Coach K; totally different) for a few years before he got his chance. Like I said, that kid wouldn’t survive a Jeff Fisher or Colt defense…DG had his flaws, but he’s not problem w the team…

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by ArtoriusG on Feb 14, 2010 8:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

David Garrard at his very best is a game manager

In 2007 he did a phenomenal job at not screwing things up. Since then he has had games where he looks like 2007 Garrard and games where he makes bad decisions and hurts the Jaguars’ chances.

If Kolb can come in and be something more than that or even just be a consistent week-in, week-out game manager, then I’m all for it.

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by Adam Stites on Feb 14, 2010 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

from Don Banks at si.com

PHILADELPHIA EAGLES — How will the Eagles three-headed quarterback situation shake out?

Andy Reid has said Donovan McNabb will return for the final year of his contract, and No. 5 says that’s his understanding as well. The Eagles love Kevin Kolb and won’t trade him unless somebody blows their doors off (Cleveland?). And Philly even says it has the luxury of bringing back Michael "Wildcat’’ Vick at $5 million. But don’t count on it.

The Eagles reportedly are already listening to teams interested in McNabb (Denver, Cleveland and Buffalo), and there’s a chance Brad Childress and the Vikings might even give up a first-round pick (No. 30) for him if Brett Favre retires (again). More likely, the Eagles would have to settle for second- and fourth-round picks. I also expect Philly to shop Vick for a mid-round pick, and St. Louis still makes the most logical destination.

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by cuffs007 on Feb 14, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

remember what i said above… it’s ALL smoke and mirrors this time of year

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by cuffs007 on Feb 14, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said

the offseason is officialy kicked off…

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Feb 14, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

For those who are fans of drafting a QB... are you sure you don't want Clausen?

Assuming the price climbs from our alleged offer there must come a point in time where you’d just prefer to draft Clausen?

by alsonot on Feb 14, 2010 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Kolb > Clausen.

I am interested in the source of the rumors. Is it BCC?

by Slvrgun on Feb 15, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know man

The more I watch of Clausen, the more I become a fan. I’d definitely take Kolb over Bradford, but I have to say I’d rather have Clausen over Kolb.

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by Bestjagfan on Feb 15, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

A guy who could go #1 overall

I’d take him if he fell even though it’d be similar to what happened to Brady Quinn

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by TheTealDeal on Feb 15, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

But I think Clausen has more talent than Quinn. Same accuracy with more arm strength, running ability, and in my opinion, football intelligence. The guy only threw four picks last season.

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by Bestjagfan on Feb 15, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

a nifty stat from ESPN labs on the football inteligence thing

Counting games at Michigan, at Michigan State, vs. USC, vs. Boston College, vs. Connecticut and at Stanford he made only four bad decisions in 224 passes; a 1.7 percent bad-decision rate, good enough to be a top 10-15 quarterbacks if it were accomplished at the NFL level.

Lot’s of qualifications in that statement, but I thought it was worth thinking through. Only thing is I know know enough about NCAA to figure out if those opponents were any good. I’m thinking not so much.

by alsonot on Feb 16, 2010 6:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Those Opponents

Aren’t great, but they are respectable. USC and Boston College both field good defenses. Connecticut had a squad that played well at times.

But yeah, if Clausen can bring his college success to the pros I think he has potential to be an elite quarterback within three years of being drafted. This is a weak draft class for QBs, but I think Clausen is a real player.

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by Bestjagfan on Feb 16, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

As far as I know, Pete Prisco said it first

I don’t know if he got it from somewhere else, but he definitely reported it before we did.

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by Adam Stites on Feb 15, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Kolb

Instant upgrade, but I doubt it will happen.

by catfanatic on Feb 15, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

I just had a thought

The Eagles have a big need at free safety. How would you guys feel if we threw in Reggie Nelson in this deal to lighten the load on giving up draft picks?

In that scenario maybe the Jaguars and Eagles swap first rounders, Kolb and Nelson switch teams, and the Jaguars throw in a mid to late round pick to finish the deal.

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by Adam Stites on Feb 16, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

I have a feeling

they are gonna try to make Macho Harris their FS.

by Ewdtrey on Feb 16, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly...

it’s not very likely they trade kolb. Also, this is what Harbaugh had to say about him when he went to the Ravens.

``All I know is I saw Kevin Kolb every day in practice for the year I was the secondary coach when he was the guy going against the defense as the scout team quarterback,’’ Harbaugh said. ``When we did red zone, we couldn’t defend him. I mean he’d run the red zone offense for the team we were going to play. We had the No. 1-ranked red-zone defense in the league 2 years ago. And we couldn’t stop Kevin Kolb. Throwing to Mike Gasperson every day in practice. He picked us apart. (The coaches) love him. He’s got all the tools. He’s a leader. He’s tough. He plays the game the right way.’’

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Feb 16, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

is that quote from McNabb a real one? freaking funny stuff

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