Could The Chargers Be A Potential Trade Partner For The Jaguars?
Some interesting news out of Charger camp. ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting Antonio Cromartie may be on the trading block. According to the article, San Diego would be interested in obtaining a running back as it appears LaDainian Tomlinson will not be returning.
The first thing that struck me when reading this was what Cromartie has done, or isn't doing, to warrant him as a trade candidate. He had a stellar 2007 season in where he was voted to the Pro Bowl and was an All-Pro. You also may recall his 109 yard touchdown return off a missed FG against Minnesota. Ten interceptions in your 2nd year will obviously set the bar high so the question is whether 2008 (in which AC states he played with a broken hip) and 2009 were more indicative of what to expect.
Jacksonville has nothing to offer in a 1:1 trade, save MJD (talk about taking crazy pills). Teams like Baltimore and Dallas have depth which would make them candidates. The question would be whether the Chargers want to go with youth or experience. How much do they trust Darren Sproles to carry the load? More so, as a RFA, will Sproles leave for more pay?
Though now it is just rumor, this makes the combine more interesting with respect to the running backs. C. J. Spiller, out of Clemson, looks to be the first back taken off the board. Some mocks have him top 10 with most having him around 15. If he blows up at the combine teams may find taking him at 10\11 as a value selection.
Beyond the actual speculation of the trade, this highlights a team with a need. Sure the Bolts could fill the spot with a veteran like Marion Barber but there is also the variable of potentially losing Sproles and thereby needing someone to build for the future. The NFL has shown us that you can never have too much depth in the backfield.
Should the Chargers state Cromartie is not on the trading block then a draft day trade becomes more of a reality. The 49rs are hot candidate to take Spiller at 13, and though the Dolphins needs are on the defensive side of the ball, they could decide bringing in the Clemson RB to compliment an aging Ricky Williams and injury burdened Ronnie Brown (though that would mean passing on DT Dan Williams). The Jaguars draft slot then becomes a perfect place to grab C.J..
I don't think Jacksonville is a player for Cromartie. What I do think is that even taking about trading a player like AC, who plays a position of high need, indicates the Chargers are willing to deal. That dealing may extend to draft day.
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I don’t think we have the trade bait available for what they’d want for Cromartie. I’d like to have him on the team, but not at their potentially high asking price.
Sean Jax Beach Bum
Agreed.
I’m not sure I’d want him but I do think this indicates the Chargers definitely feel RB is extremely important and that is where Jacksonville could benefit. I’m interested in watching how SD handles LT and Sproles.
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by Brian Fullford on Feb 17, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t they get rid of Michael Turner too… who went to the Falcons (2008=1699yds, 2009=871yds).. and has been a very good RB?… What in the heck is in the water over on the west coast? sheesh
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We got some serious
athletes out here on the west coast. As pure talents I think the west coast is the best in the country. The middle of the country is full of the big guys. Florida guys are almost on par athletically with the west, but whatever they lack athletic wise I think they make up with more work.
The Chargers would be smart to jump up
I normally don’t say a team should “trade up”, but looking at the 1000 yard rushers from 2009:
15 Backs rushed for 1000 yards
60% were 1st rounders
13% were 2nd rounders
13% were 3rd rounders
13% were undrafted
I like Sproles, but he needs another back to carry the load.
San Diego has a 1st (28th), 2nd (60th), 3rd (91), 4th, 5th, and 7th. They don’t have a lot of ammo to trade up. If they offered Jacksonville their 1st, 3rd, and Cromartie I’d have to seriously think about it if I were Gene.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
By that logic
Cromartie is worth about a second rounder in your mind. I’d lean toward him being worth a 2nd and a 3rd. So a swap in first rounders and Cromartie might be a little more realistic.
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Since you’re a west coast guy, what is the press out there re: AC? I was reading some SD message boards and the consensus seems to be they are willing to part with him. I don’t know if that is because they fell SD has depth at the position, if they think he isn’t going to get better or whether they simply feel it is addition by subtraction being the problem at RB. What are you hearing?
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by Brian Fullford on Feb 17, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not hearing anything haha
I hadn’t even heard about the Cromartie rumors until you put up this post. I’ve been over at Bolts from the Blue a little bit trying to figure this out, but I know no more than you, sorry.
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Number of reasons
He’s got a bad wrap right now regarding his attitude. He’s just not a fan favorite. They also have some good depth at CB. Antoine Cason was 1st rounder in 08. If they did trade away Cormartie however, they would need to find a new NB. What they don’t have is a RB. Sproles and LT could both be gone this year.
His play has also been a little up and down too. Good talent, but inconsistent and injured a few times.
i would be very happy with that trade!
zachary cleary
by jagsfan4life on Feb 17, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is not an area I spend a lot of time in
But I’ll throw something out for fodder. My thinking is they may decide to offer AC in a trade with Dallas, for example, which may still include a draft pick at which point they would still trade up to get Spiller. Purely hypothetical for the sake of discussion. I’m very curious as to what Sproles may garner from other teams and if they lose him, or aren’t willing to match the offer, then their backfield is gone. They may decide to sit back and get Best or Dwyer.
Interesting new bit of news…Jamal Lewis was released.
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Jamal Lewis
was obviously over the hill. Not to mention he was already contemplating retiring. And they are obviously rebuilding now.
I thought he confirmed his retirement
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I don't see SD letting him go
And that may be a cause of the problem with Sproles. Can they give big money to multiple players?
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by Brian Fullford on Feb 17, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Vincent Jackson
would be huge for this team. But someone with his price tag isn’t going to Jacksonville.
If you have the time
why not use the time. As far as Jackson not being covered goes….That’s what an open Wr is supposed to look like.
Agree or disagree
Chargers:
Second round pick, Vincent Jackson
Jaguars:
First Round Pick, 5th round pick
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Get big men, QBs, and corners early…everything else can be found later
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Nah
Vincent Jackson is not worth our 1st, maybe someone elses where the need for a WR is greater and enhances the value.
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but even if he wasn’t, it’s basically like getting him for a trade down from the first to the second. So in other words you’re getting him for a 2nd round pick.
I say trade MJD.
But only for a 2 future 2nd rounders, 3 future 3rd rounders, 4 future 5th rounders. Oh and take Cromartie….then trade his ass for a late 2nd early third.
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i would still keep MJD over all that
zachary cleary
by jagsfan4life on Feb 17, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
Never speak of Such things!
To do so the highest form of Jaguar Blasphemy! I think he is probably the most critical single player to a Jaguars team in our history.
Also if Spiller is available when we are on the clock, we should take him. He would be a fantastic pickup b/c as you’re grooming him to be the latter half of a true running back tandem, he can make an immediate impact on special teams and as a change of pace guy. just like MJD!
MJD is the face of the franchise....
but I think 3 1st rd and 3 2nd rd pick would be worth it for MJD. As long as said trade doesn’t happen with anyone in the AFC South…
Here we go again...
Though I am far from a draft expert, I have to laugh again. Here is my statement regarding the Jags 2010 draft…If the Jaguars do anything that prevents them from getting quality O and D linemen, they are making a tragic mistake. A great receiver will be of no value if the man throwing him the ball does not have an opportunity to set up, read the field, and make a good pass. MJD will not be an effective runner if the o-line does not take care of their assignments and make holes for him. And finally, opposing teams will tear us apart in the air and on the ground if we do not plug holes against the run, and put pressure on the QB in passing situations. I pray that Gene and the others that make these decisions for the Jags do not lose site of this. In short, no “skilled” player will accomplish much of anything without a strong supporting cast…….the O and D linemen!!!
So let's take AC out of the mix
I’m more interested in what might happen on draft day. With the Chargers needs a RB (and possibly more than one) does that make the 10\11 spot attractive to them if Spiller shows up at the combine? I don’t believe that trading for Cromartie is the component to this that brings the Jags into the discussion. I think it is what SD may be willing to give up to get a RB. If AC is trade bait, how much further are they willing to go?
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by Brian Fullford on Feb 18, 2010 11:05 AM EST reply actions
I just read this from a Chargers fan
“At LEAST 7 kids by 6 mothers in 5 states. And all under the age of 6. And he’s afraid to tackle. Why would anyone offer more than a 4th or 5th rounder for this guy?”
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