My first three picks
by Slvrgun on Mar 12, 2010 1:00 PM EST
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10th pick - RB CJ Spiller
42nd pick - CB Alterraun Verner
74th pick - DE Alex Carrington
I tried to go best available player for each round. Despite having MJD, I couldn't pass on a homerun hitter in Spiller. Rashad Jennings is a good player but there are better runners. I was impressed with Verner's character and his workout at the combine. Looks like he could be a gem. Carrington is a big guy, doesn't have the speed of JPP but he does have nice initial burst off the line and should be able to shed blocks and stop the run at the next level due to his size.
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Can't disagree about Spiller
If the Jags were to draft him, I’d be drooling over all the possibilities about pairing him with MJD in the backfield
Yea I think we fall into 4 camps
Those who are scared to draft anything but bigs early.
Those who want to just trade down regardless of who is there at 10.
Those who just want Tebow.
Those who want either Haden or Morgan.
I think i Fit in all the categories above
I like big guys in the 1st
I like getting value and picks
I just want Tebow
I want Haden, kinda Morgan too.
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He's a little
smaller than Felix and not as fast in pads as Johnson, IMO. He could have a similar impact to Felix though.
Let me ask you this
do you think Jacoby Ford looks like a 4.28? Not to mention I don’t know how you could claim that Spiller is over all faster than Johnson, considering Johnson ran a 4.24 to Spiller’s 4.37
Yeah Spiller had a better 100 meter but that was his college time, something Johnson didn’t really do in college(What’s listed is his high school tim). Not to mention the yard lines don’t even span a 100 meters. What really matters are those first 5 yards and second most impportant yardage is the 15 yards after that. Beyond that you’re already gonna run away from everyone else anyhow.
With the way they fucked up the times I wouldn't doubt it if Spiller ran faster than a 4.37
If I remember correctly they had him and some other guy running frame by frame and Spiller beat him even though the other guy had a lower time.
Ok in that case
I’d be totally happy with it. I’m not sure if Carrington falls to the 4th. I think a 3-4 team will want to scoop him up before that, though.
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I’m all for George Selvie if he’s there in the 4th. I don’t think Carrington will be there past the mid-3rd.
I don't think Selvie
would even make it on the team, assuming his expense in the draft didn’t have anything to do with it.
Basically
I think Selvie will be a bust. He’s not exactly the same type of player that Groves is, but I think he will struggle with the same things.
That's true about Greg Jones
but I think more importantly is that Greg isn’t a RB anymore. He’s almost strictly a FB.
#10 is not the right pick for Spiller.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 12, 2010 4:28 PM EST reply actions
What about:
“Much needed” Trade down
“Fell into our laps” whoever?
We know someone will fall, just depends on who.
Well, I don't agree that that describes Spiller.
Spiller is nothing special. He’s not once-in-a-lifetime, which is what it would take for me to draft a running back that high. Great RBs can be found in any round.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 12, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
No.
But I don’t think Spiller is a Chris Johnson, though he does have better hands. He’s more like a Chris Wells with better hands, and I don’t think that’s worth the 10th pick. Don’t get me wrong, I think he can be a good player, but the highest slot I would feel comfortable paying him would be around 20.
He's no Chris Wells either lol
Closer to Johnson than Wells. Not that he’s Johnson’s caliber of player though. Really, he’s more like a Reggie Bush. Outside runner with good hands and short area quickness. And that’s the kind of production I expect from a Spiller too. Which is why I don’t want to draft him at 10. Not to mention that’s a lot of money tied up into one position.
Marshall Faulk on NFL network said he is no reggie bush.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d816e66d3/Cream-of-the-crop
He can run outside, and in between the tackles. He is a home run hitter.
No, I disagree
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I'd Take
Selvie over Carrington. Fits our system better and could break out in the pros.
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had one monster season
I like Selvie
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Yeah
I think if you can grab a guy in the fourth who has been talked about going in the mid first, you gotta jump on it. With a good line coach and a few years, he could turn out to be a nice player.
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Had
14 sacks in 2007. Had he done that this year he would be considered a first rounder right now. Ha
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But there is also
a reason why he hasn’t been getting those sacks, even with a competent player across from him in JPP.
Yeah, I think Selvie’s style fits in better with what we need. But simply put, he’s just not very good.
Carrington however is almost guaranteed to be at least a base hit. He’s a very good player against the run. And he could do what Rob Meier used to do with switching back and forth between DT and DE, except with more of a role as a pass rusher in both positions. And there is no doubt that he can hold the point and collapse the pocket.
I feel you
I see where you’re coming from.
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Selvie and Spiller
Selvie has played injured for the most part of the past two seasons and even with the injury he was getting doubled which is one of the reason’s JPP is looking to so good right now. JPP more often than not went 1v1 while Selvie was double and tripled team…Name one player who could get production while being clipped, sliced, doubled, and tripled teamed? Now, I am a GT fan and Spiller almost beat GT by himself both times this past year. The kid is a top 10 pick. He has legit 4.3 speed with an incredible top end acceleration I have never seen outside the likes of Chris Johnson…Now, do we need Spiller at the 10th spot, I do not know…
Brandon Graham
and Morgan both took on double teams on the regular. But I don’t even like what I see when Selvie is one on one. I’ve seen TE’s block him alone with ease. That should never happen to a college DE if you want him to play 43 DE in the NFL. Now if he was truly hurt, then maybe I’m wrong. I’ll admit that I was a little wrong when referring to Michael Johnson last year, because it wasn’t reported until after the draft that he played with a hernia all year. Had I known that, maybe I would have been more lenient on his play.
At WR top end accel is important. But for RB’s low end accel is most important. Keep in mind that as a third down back, Spiller isn’t really good as a pass blocker, which is very important to being a valuable back. Had a lot to do with why Jennings didn’t get the ball more during the year.
Injury
From what I have read and heard Selvie has been playing with a high ankle sprain that has been hindering him for the past 2 seasons because he played through it…The kid will not stop playing and always gives 100%. Now, the real question is can he put on some size cause he is definitely too small now to play DE in the NFL.
What about him?
I like him as a player. But I don’t think he’s a top ten pick. And he wont be there in the 3rd.
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