What is the Jaguars QB situation?
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 12, 2010 6:52 PM EST
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PrintThe post-Brunell Jaguars have always struggled to find consistency under center. Byron Leftwich's injuries and poor mechanics led to him being a the first in a long proud line of first round busts. David Garrard had several opportunities to unseat Leftwich, but always managed to spectacularly fail when the job was in his grasp. However, in 2007, David Garrard morphed into one of the most effecient quarterbacks in the NFL. Then, after signing a massive contract, he morphed back into the inconsistent QB from 2004-2006.
There has been a lot of interesting comments centered around the Jaguars quarterbacks over the last few weeks. It all started when Jack Del Rio made his infamous comments on Jim Rome is Burning that David Garrard wasn't "elite" and "needed good players around him." While these comments would be responded with "duh" to many in the fanbase, for a head coach to make them is practically unheard of.
Comments were late made by GM Gene Smith and several others regarding the Jaguars plans for Luke McCown in 2010. The Jaguars clearly are willing to give him a shot to prove himself in the coming off-season. This also doesn't preclude the team from adding another QB via the draft or free agency (I'm looking at you Brady Quinn.)
What is the situation looking like in the longterm for the Jaguars?
David Garrard
Despite being a "Pro Bowl" quarterback last season, it has become increasingly clear the team's patience in Garrard is wearing thin. His comments to the Times-Union earlier this week, that he needed to "outplay Luke McCown" to keep his job made that clear enough.
After having an excellent season in 2007, David Garrard has morphed back into the schizophrenic quarterback that could never quite unseat Byron Leftwich in 2005 and 2006.
Between the team's comments about Luke McCown and the rumblings of looking at different QBs in the draft, David Garrard has to know the writing is on the wall. He has to recapture the poise and skills that he had in 2007 in order to keep his job as the Jags starting QB. The recent reports that Garrard has contacted fellow AFC South QB Peyton Manning about off-season development tips shows that he is serious about doing this.
However, in addition to his QB play, Garrard is also due a massive salary in 2010. It is almost a certainty that the Jaguars will ask Garrard to take a pay cut.
Luke McCown
The McCown bandwagon has been gaining some momentum, and I can't exactly figure out why. McCown has a 1-6 career record as a starter and his actual statistics haven't been that great either. Granted, his does seem to have all of the physical tools, but what would Luke McCown bring to the table Garrard already doesn't?
He could catch fire in training camp this summer and Garrard could continue his downward spiral, which could lead the Jaguars to make a switch. However, is there any evidence that it could happen? I don't believe so. McCown is a solid backup QB, but trying to have him be a starting QB would only lead to the Jaguars picking in the Top 10 again.
Draft/Free Agency
Other pieces to this puzzle could be added in the coming weeks. The most intriguing player on the market right now is Cleveland's Brady Quinn. While the Browns didn't sign QB Jake Delhomme, it is still being reported Quinn is on the market. While Cleveland gave up a lot to pick him with the 22nd pick in 2006, if they are bringing in Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme over him, I can't see the Browns wanting much in terms of compensation.
The other piece could come from the draft this year. Notre Dame QB Jimmy Claussen could fall to the Jaguars at #10, or they could use a pick later on a QB like Tony Pike.
My Take
It's clear the Jaguars aren't happy with the current state of the quarterback position. However, what realistic answers are there to address the position? I think the best case scenario would be to get Garrard to take a paycut and see if he can regain his 2007 form. If not, the 2011 Draft is deep with QBs like Ryan Mallett, Jake Locker, Pat Devlin, and Christian Ponder. It would be easier to address the future of the position then.
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Brady Quinn??????
Please noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba
"You have to stand for something, or you will fall for anything" - Me
I agree
I see no spark in him. Delhomme? I really like the guy; but he is over the hill. Other FA Qbs-No.
I think Garrard is on the same boat as JDR. Make or break. If be has an average or below average year; he’ll be traded/cut in the end of this year. I think he knows it too.
I’m OK with McCown as a backup. And I think if performs very well in training camp; he might get a chance to show what he got (IF David’s has another uo and down year).
I agree with John; the next Jags QB is still in college. And I think Gene must select weith the 1st or 2nd that guy next year (I add Keenum and Stanzi to John’s list as potential QB possibilities)
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 12, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
You like Delhomme?
Worst QB in the league.
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-Akrobatik
Last I checked
Jamarcus Russel, Daunte Culpepper, and Byron Leftwich are still in the league and performing badly. Do you consider him worse?I don’t :)
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by DownTownJax on Mar 12, 2010 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
yeah. who would want a former pro-bowl AND super bowl qb? i know he’s on the decline, but i agree with downtownjax in that russell, culpepper, and leftwich are worse. nothing else.
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Culpepper
Is washed up, but at least Leftwich and Russell are relatively young and young respectively. They could still turn into good players. Leftwich actually did okay in a bad situation in Tampa Bay.
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I like Delhomme as a player but I know
he is a Brunell type backup now.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 13, 2010 6:45 AM EST up reply actions
My Bad
For some reason I was thinking you meant he could start. Jumped the gun man. He is the worst starting quarterback in the league though. ;) He’d be fine as a backup.
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Yeah
I agree, he’s washed up as a starter, but he’ll be fine as a backup. He would be good for a team like Indy, NE, San Diego that has a top starter but might need someone to jump in occasionally for a breather. I prefer McCown though.
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by DownTownJax on Mar 13, 2010 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Brady Quinn, No Thank You
That guy is horrible. I hope his stint with the Browns will come to an end and then he will find his way out of the league. I cant imagine where this rumor of him being a NFL worthy QB started. He was horrible in college with ND’s cupcake schedule. He lost all but 1 significant college game. No bowl wins, no wins against USC, and only one against Michigan ( and lets be honest, the horrible “Henne goal line fumble call” is what won that game, nothing Quinn did).
If the Jags sign him, I will scrap my season tickets.
I definitely wouldn't worry about that
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by Adam Stites on Mar 15, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Limb
This is just a hopeful statement more than anything, but it seems like DG will be fine this year. I’m really only going off of the fact that, if you look at it, his best year was when he was put out on the thin limb after Leftwich was cut. That pressure, or maybe something else altogether, made him realize his position and play as efficient as he did. This year has to feel the same to DG. So hopefully that’s what we’ll see on the field.
Even if we do, I still agree that our next QB is still in college right now, and if he has a great year, we should still be looking for his replacement next year.
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by displacedjagfan on Mar 12, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions
I just can't see Garrard taking a pay cut
If I’m Garrard I’d say you either pay me or release me. Unless McCown lights it up in training camp, I just can’t see the Jaguars cutting Garrard.
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Indeed.
Really, there is almost no alternative to Garrard for the Jags. We have to hope he improves himself
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 12, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Whould we trade him?
Is he worth more that 2nd round? Not that I am jumping on the TRADE DG band wagon…
My choice for a future QB who’s still in college… Hmmm… Oh yeah, Christian Ponder
Sean Jax Beach Bum
Yeah
I like Ponder. I just fear he will be a top 15 pick, and I see the Jags picking upwards of 20 next year. We could always trade up, but that just doesn’t seem like a move Gene would make, whether its right or not.
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Mallet would be an interesting guy too.
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Ponder will require a 1st rount pick and will likely be the number 1 pick.
We won’t be able to get him.
McCown
Is a clown. Guy doesn’t have the ability to start.
Garrard is fine when he has time to throw and weapons he is confident in. I liked your article John. I agree that he needs to have a good season in 2010, and a bad one could sign his exit papers. If we fix the interior o-line and add just a few more weapons, along with using Drew more creatively, I think Garrard could excel.
In my opinion the Jags could wait until next year and go for a higher guy like Ponder, or they could develop a late round guy. It’s clear that guys like Zac Robinson and Sean Canfield don’t have the tools to become starters, but there are some potential surprises that could turn out to be another David G. with time and coaching. Jarrett Brown, when his footwork is good, has perhaps the best arm in the draft, and good accuracy. All depends on footwork with him. Coaching could turn that guy into a pro bowler. Thaddeus Lewis and Daryl Clark are two guys I like as well. They both have enough arm, and good accuracy. All three can run, which in my opinion is a really important trait in a quarterback.
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-Akrobatik
We dont
Want Clark. I am a big psu fan watch every game and Clarks numbers came against cupcakes and games w not much on the line (typically after a loss to Iowa or Ohio state). He has the size and speed but just have that extra “it” IMO to get it done at the next level.
by Slawsc on Mar 13, 2010 6:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who's We
You never know what coaching can do. Tell you the truth, none of us know how the front office/coaches feel about these players. They may be thinking the same thing you are thinking, I am, or something completely different.
Yeah, I see your argument on how he never could get it done at crunch time.
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Blaine Gabbert
Is another guy potentially next year. He’ll be an underclassmen, so he may not commit. But he has a lot of arm and is an athlete. Plays in Missouri’s spread, but could be taught with a year or two on the bench.
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I like the QB crop next year
But I remember us saying the same thing last year. The grass is always greener on the other side.
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I never liked this
QB class. I was one of the first guys to have said it. eople kept throwing names at me. I didn’t bite, and I’m glad I didn’t. There were a billion names, but almost all of them had a some terrible weakness.
What
Does everyone think about picking up Jamarcus Russell is he is released/price is right. A few years of sitting on the bench and developing a work ethic I think he could live up to his potential. He has all the tools.
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I’d pass on Jamarcus. He may not be in the optimum environment with the Raiders, but QB’s have been there that did very well. And having him spend a few years on the bench? A definite No.
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Hell to the F*** no!!!!!!!!
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I hear you
I’m just saying if we could sign him for a low price, why not grab a first rounder for the minimum? At worst he is a hell of a backup. Probably not the role he envisions himself in, but if the guy would learn to work hard he could be a good player.
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I think
We have had enough problems lately w first rounders so just bc Russell is a first rounder isn’t logical to get bc of value. He has a proven track record which isn’t good and this franchise can’t afford to take that kind of risk right now. Jamarcus as davids replacement. Yuck just thinking about that!
by Slawsc on Mar 13, 2010 6:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just throwin out ideas
I realize it isn’t likely.
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-Akrobatik
Russell will be fine once the situation in Oakland settles down.
I don’t know why everyone gives up on certain guys so quickly.
I heard it about with regard to Mario Williams, Harvey, Groves Nelson, et al.
You don’t give up on young talented guys. You continue to develop them.
hell, as long as Al “I cant die” Davis is at the helm of the Raiders, I do not foresee any sort of settling down over there. And with Tom Cable punching out other coaches, well… yeah.
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Haha
In fact, I see more hitting the fan.
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Thats
All I’m sayin. I just want to see Russell in a better situation. If he blows then as well, I’ll admit he is a bust. But three years is a little soon, especially in Oakland.
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-Akrobatik
I'm with you on QB's
getting bashed because they are in horrible situations, but that isn’t J.R.‘s only problem. He can’t read defenses. He has no accuracy. And he’s not a hard worker. Those are probably the 3 most important things to have for an NFL QB, and he doesn’t have any of them.
Stafford is in a bad situation. Josh Freeman is in a bad situation. Alex Smith is in a bad situation. Matt Hasselback is in a bad situation. And so is Trent Edwards, Bulger, Campbell, and Cutler. These guys are better than they appear due to their bad situations. J.R. is not one of those guys.
I agree
He has things to work out. He Probably won’t get them worked out, nothing is harder to change than a persons personality. I’d just like to see if he’d be able to develop a work ethic, study film, and be a better teammate. If he can’t, I’ll admit he is another Ryan Leaf
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by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 12, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
You make it sound like a bad thing.
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C'mon Man!!!
Give Garrard a chance. Have you seen his Offensive Line. What about his receivers, since he’s been the starter. How about a defense that requires him to pass so often just to "stay " in the game. Quinn…Russel..McCown… are you guys serious?
I've seen him overthrow open Wide recievers with no pressure on him.
Yes, I’m serious.
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It's pretty rare
though he did do that more often this year than in past years. But I think Peyton does that more often than Garrard.
Jamarcus Russel??
wtf are you smoking? brady quinn? nah. if we’re gonna through out names out there at least list some intriguing guys with some potential.
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Wow.
What are you smoking with that sig?
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THE DRAFT IS THE WAY
Look people its pretty simple Quin, Delhomme,Russel,,,,,McCown all these guy are ham n eggers at best. They all had a shot and failed miserably. So what do you think they come to Jax and all of a sudden they are better,,,NOT . They suck period they are not nor will they EVER be an answer to anything you eather got it or you dont,,,They DONT!!
Now lets look at the draft where we CAN find an answer,, Now we have the obvious choices Bradford,Clausen,Pike,McCoy and yes even Tebow but there are a few we could get in the later rounds that i think could be potential starters or even more,,Sean Canfield,Oregon state google him you might like what u see Bill Stull Pittsburge,Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State.Look Tom Brady wasnt on any ones board
NFL Draft: 2000 / Round: 6 / Pick: 199,,, I bet you wouldnt think twice about making him the Number 1 over all pick huh
Not everyone
Can be a Tom Brady.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Garrard is fine.
Our offense didn’t let us down last year. And if it did, the breakdowns occurred on the line. This guy went toe-to-toe with Manning in a great showdown in Jax, that all went to crap because we still play Reggie Nelson.
He also led us to an amazing victory on the road against the Jets.
Our problems are not under center. They might be at center. But the real weakness is on defense. Garrard should be our quarterback. He’s talented, strong and a leader. Aiming the rifle sights at #9 is a wasted bullet. But so is most of this offseason hot air.
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You can't deny all of what's been said this offseason though.
David is a perfectly serviceable QB. However, he hasn’t shown he can be a top tier QB consistently.
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 13, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
And one more point...
…calling this draft deep at the QB position…oh my. We are fishing now.
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It's not deep at all!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 13, 2010 6:44 AM EST up reply actions
Where did I say this draft was deep at QB? Next year's is.
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 13, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions
+1
I like the thought of ponder in teal as for everyone layin sights on russell or quinn get off the kool aid
David has had to deal with a lot of shifts on offense with the o line and recivers I do agree anther average season and him and JDR are goin to be in the unemployment line at the end of the season
by jesusjagfan2009 on Mar 15, 2010 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he said the 2-0-1-1 draft will be deep at QB, not this year
and i quote “… the 2011 Draft is deep with QBs like Ryan Mallett, Jake Locker, Pat Devlin, and Christian Ponder. It would be easier to address the future of the position then.”
i realllllly hope Christian Ponder has a good year. if so, then… BAM… there’s our future at qb
Sean Jax Beach Bum
I really like Ponder
He played so well with young receivers and an offensive line that would crumble against better teams.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I agree
He’ll be a top 5/10 pick, which hopefully we will not have next year.
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Out of those guys, I think I'd like to see Ryan Mallet more.
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Offseason work...
or lack there of. The coaches talked about how Garrard doesn’t put in the necessary work with receivers or watching enough film. He had 1 good year, got a huge contract, and figured he made it. Remind you of anyone….. REGGIE NELSON.
How can Garrard
put in extra work with receivers that are all hurt or not even in camp yet. Practically the whole receiving group was new this season. And the preseason both Mike Walker and Mike Thomas were hurt. Holt was being metered, because he was old and had a nagging knee problem. Dillard was having the dropsies, so he was lower on the depth chart. Troy Williamson got hurt early in the season. Hughes and Underwood weren’t even locks to make the team. And only MSW even played with Garrard prior to this year.
John, you lost me at Brady Quinn.
If Cleveland, a team desperately in need of young QB talent and who has already released Derek Anderson, is actively bringing in Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme over Brady Quinn, that is the worst possible indictment of Brady Quinn. He doesn’t even have Anderson to compete against anymore, and he still can’t lock down the starting position? That’s horrible news. Brady Quinn would never push Garrard for playing time if he can’t even keep Seneca Wallace and Jake Delhomme at bay. Cleveland’s garbage is not how you replace average QB play here.
I also agree with SoCal above: Garrard has all of the leverage still, especially if he outplays McCown in training camp (which is all but a certainty). He will say either pay me or cut me, and the Jaguars will pay him because they have no other choice with a weak QB 2010 draft crop.
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by MoveThoseChains on Mar 13, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions
If we could get him for cheap, it might be worth it. Outside of Oakland and Detriot, has any team been more of a blackhole than Cleveland recently?
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 13, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
It's one of those too-good-to-be-true things. If he's that cheap while Cleveland is still so desperate, something is seriously wrong.
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by MoveThoseChains on Mar 13, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Espn seems to avoid Jacksonville
I had to wait 5 hours after the news break of Aaron Kampmen’s signing, ust to get any info from them. We’re the black hole of small market teams.
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going after other teams has beens and never weres
is not the answer — although another ‘Rich Gannon’ is sure to pop up for some team at some point in the future due to law of large numbers – it’s defiantely not the ‘money play’. Drafting is the way to go and this year’s QB crops looks weak.
Other needs outweigh QB for immediate future. DG is servicable, but we’re certainly not going anywhere with him either. This position will need to be addressed soon however – maybe next year’s draft.
Even though I'm pretty sure you meant definitely,
I defiantly agree that addressing QB can and should wait until next offseason, and certainly better than going after the Jake Delhommes and Brady Quinns and Jamarcus Russells of that world.
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by MoveThoseChains on Mar 13, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Garrard has yet to reach his ceiling and who knows something may click and he becomes an elite..
Qb later in his career.
I don’t see the point in drafting a QB now unless we believe he can be an eventual starter. Outside of Bradford and Clausen I see no such QBs.
I don't understand it when people say he could better elite later in his career
He’s over 30 and he hasn’t been able to duplicate the 2007 year. I think he’s past his peak. He’s not this 27 year old QB whose just now being the starter because the old starter retired, for example. I say draft a QB if you think he’ll help the team.
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he is actually improving. I’ve seen lots of little things in his game that he’s improved. There is very little difference between a good QB and an elite QB.
DG...
Had 3800 total yards and 18 tds…not bad plus I think he will improve this year.
To compare him to Mannning or any top tier QB is crazy…I’ll take DG over alot of QBs in the league right now.
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by ArtoriusG on Mar 13, 2010 3:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Agreed...
It’s all about the talent around him as well…every elite QB has an elite WR…at one point we people were saying Cultler was the second coming of…why?
He had Brandon Marshall…Manning has Reggie Wayne…Schaub has Johnson…hopefully he can still develop w MSW…
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by ArtoriusG on Mar 13, 2010 6:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The situation is clear.
The Jags won’t make any QB moves this year, either FA or the draft (unless they can get Tebow in the 3rd, which is doubtful). They have a solid starter and a solid back-up. Garrard has the potential to be a top-10 QB in this league … IF he has a top-10 offensive line. Protection is the key. The tackles with be substantially better in their 2nd year. Maybe Vince will be the old Vince again 2 years removed from his injury, but I queston that. Uche should be improved. I think we desparately need a young, strong center. Who/when do we draft for the O line given our defensive needs?
Good QB crop next year for our 1st pick. I agree Ponder goes early, but I also like Locker.
he put up good numbers...
and with some good productive rookies. He will get better as everyone else around him progresses. Now, the need to upgrade our QB spot will always be out there,but, I don’t see Gene pulling the trigger on a QB from this draft.
Kapman meester
I don’t think brad is going anywhere this year. I think big reason kampman came here is meester w the high school and family connection attracted him to Jax.
by Slawsc on Mar 13, 2010 9:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't put too much empasis on the meester connection
I think Gene Smith and the character first approach along with we being the only people willing to pay him drawed him here.
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I say Colt McCoy if he’s there in the 3rd. Anybody want to jump on and go for a ride?
However, I think a quarterback desperate team will take him in the second, so I don’t think it really matters. But, if he’s there when we pick in rd. 3, I take him over Tim Teabagged any day.
I don't think you even need to take him that early
I think he’s a 5th rounder at best and even then I think it’s a waste of a draft pick. Frankly I’ve just given up on the QBs of this year. We’ll have to get one next year.
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by Adam Stites on Mar 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I rather get Tebow
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tickets is the key
tebow is a first rounder if not by skill by sells for sure which is what we need think about the money the city will make off stuff with tebow on it never mind the reg season just the preseaon stuff it’ll be crazy
Even JDR said...
That the team around DG has to improve…I tell you what…give DG a Larry Fitzgerald or a Andre Johnson…I’ve seen plays where Kurt just threw the ball up for grand and Larry still caught it…I’ve seen DG throw the ball up for grab and it was an int…
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by ArtoriusG on Mar 14, 2010 4:16 AM EST via mobile reply actions
haha totally +1
people don’t realize how much that impacts an offense. That one catch difference in say half the games in a season is the difference between Garrard and Manning.
...
Up for grabs…
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by ArtoriusG on Mar 14, 2010 4:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, now we don't have to worry about Brady Quinn anymore.
The Broncos, with their own mediocre QB in Kyle Orton, took a flyer on Quinn. John, you were right about one thing – the price was very cheap. The Browns really were desperate. My money is on Orton still beating out Brady Quinn though. I never though Quinn was that good, and clearly neither do the Browns.
In Gene We Trust.
by MoveThoseChains on Mar 15, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions
here's
a nice article on what jamarcus russel has been up to lately, i especially like the starting player quotes at the end.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/JaMarcus-Russell-absent-from-workouts.html
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