Better Know a Free Agent Visit: WR Kassim Osgood and DE Aaron Kampman
by River City Rage on Mar 6, 2010 12:37 PM EST
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I can't lie...Jax is very welcoming as a city. I even saw some old friends that live here. Wow...it just might fit. We will see!!! From Kassim Osgood's Twitter
San Diego special teams pro-bowler and wide receiver Kassim Osgood spent the night in Jacksonville last night, saying in Ponte Vedra, according to his twitter. Kassim is a rock-solid special teams player looking to find a team that will put him at receiver. The Jaguars, with Montell Owens, have zero need for Osgood in that phase of the game. Adding him to the roster means that Gene Smith sees something on Osgood as receiver, that or plans on utilizing Owens more in the running game.
Seriously though, Osgood does not sign with Jacksonville if he's to be a special teamer, this is a guy who sees himself as a wide receiver and would be seen as someone to compliment Mike Walker as the number two receiver. His price would be a little high to be someone who's just "in the mix", should this signing go down, its to be the front-runner for the spot opposite walker.
There's not a whole lot of film out there that highlights Osgood at WR, in fact youtube seems to only have clips of him at the Pro Bowl interviewing other players, that or making outstanding special teams plays. Now, don't get me wrong, a guy who's willing to bust his ass on special teams is probably a true "football player", someone that would fit into the Jacksonville mentality that Gene's creating. Should this move happen, I would wait with anxious anticipation for OTA's so I could see his footwork and speed as a pass-catcher.
The other "big news", is that the speculation about Aaron Kampman visits as led to Jacksonville, where he's to visit with the team. This is a move that has me intrigued, as he's older, injured, and the exact opposite of what we expect out of a Gene Smith move. If the Jaguars want an older veteran to be in the rotation at DE, re-sign Reggie Hayward, he's been outstanding with the team and I'd be willing to bet isn't a hard guy to keep. Aaron's unhappy in Green Bay because he is not a 3-4 player, he's got skills, but I worry about how he'll perform coming off an ACL injury and having to recover from that at his age and still make it happen seems like a stretch.
Final Verdict:
Osgood = Good Signing
Kampman = Questionable Signing
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Osgood very good move
Kampman-Well if the Jags sign him they can say to the fans-They try their best….
Life without knowledge is death in disguise
by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 6, 2010 12:44 PM EST reply actions
I like both
I think the boys under Gene know whatz up. They won’t sign anyone who won’t be able to contribute. I think they’ll make the right call. I trust ’em.
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Co-sign that
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 6, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I have to agree that the Kampman signing would be questionable at best
The fact that he’s been getting as much interest as he has makes me think the price tag has to be high. I just can’t condone dishing out huge money to a 30 year old coming off an ACL injury.
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Best case scenario
kampman becomes this years darren sharper
osgood becomes the guy no one sees coming that just wows everyone
here are some footage, my bad i forgot to post the link
nice strength
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5I7OyT6YBk&NR=1
chases down daunte Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SRJ1X6TP3Y&feature=related
good catch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7mUqpsn5cg&feature=related
goood hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjq_wqtPhM&NR=1
may not have been a catch but a superb effort
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_DU1CGdolw&feature=related
burns nate clements at 30 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-sC-i-E3I
last season we had 14 sacks, he had 1/4 of that playing out of position in 9 games...
I’m sure we won’t sign him if he’s not at 100% or near.
Can he help us? YES
we are not in position to act crazy.
I'm not questioning whether or not he'd help
I’m sure he’ll help, but would the price be worth the production.
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I know, but we realy need help there
He’s coming off an ACL injury, and wrong side of 30…. maybe we can make some deal…
I’m hoping for the best
Kampman is a bargaining chip
The visits are cheap, so this is a good way to call Haywire’s bluff and get him back in. It puts some pressure on him to re-sign. It would be nice to get Kampman cheap, but this might not be genuine interest.
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by DownTownJax on Mar 6, 2010 1:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I would agree with this
From things I’ve heard, Hayward is likely to resign soon. But I do have an issue with the fact that both the experienced DEs we’re looking to give a chance are both recovering from recent, major injuries.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe we could tie their bad legs together
They could use their good legs and four arms to attack the QB. They’d be called: Sackmonster. It’s kinda scary.
Vae Victis!
Actually, let me change that
All /three/ of the experienced DE that the Jags are talking to are coming of major injuries. I forgot about the Lion’s DE DeVries.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
If Kampman made a visit to Jacksonville, I think it means he's defiently not getting big money offers from other teams, so I say go for it
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 6, 2010 2:35 PM EST reply actions
I also think that...
For Kampman, Jacksonville is the best fit. Del Rio is a pure 4-3 guy, and the team has let people know that is what they want. Also, if he wants people to notice him, where better to go than a team with the worst pass rush in the NFL? If he comes in and gets 5+ sacks he’ll get more attention and love than he would getting the same production elsewhere.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I mean Kampman
was suppose to have visits with Seattle and Philly, and apparently both of those fell through, so I agree that Kampman hasn’t gotten any good offers, and i think we should sign Hayward to close to the vet minimum, and Kapman will be cheaper due to the fact it seems like no one wants him
Also
it would seem like if Gene is trying to sign Kampman, maybe Gene knows something about Hayward that we don’t, why bring somebody in that doesn’t know the system when u can resign a vet of the system, i think there’s more than we’re seeing
Defensive ends don't need to learn the system much
The job for a DE in a 4-3 is basically always the same. I think you’re reading too much into it. Hayward is interested in getting as much money as he can, as he should.
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I hope we can sign both
If we do, perhaps it’ll give us a better chance of trading out of the 10 spot and not losing out value-wise. Maybe… dunno. I hope something is heard soon. I’m dying here.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently Osgood and the Jags "might" be working on a deal
It is the Jag’s deal to lose, according to Pro Football Talk
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions
Also, has anyone else checked out his twitter?
The guy shares scripture with fans. http://twitter.com/Kassimosgood
Interesting, huh?
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
espnmillwakue.com
four-year, $21 million deal
is what kampman’s expecting, im not big on numbers so is this alot?
KVB
Four-year, $26 million contract
That’s what he signed with Detriot. In my opinion, Kampman was better than KVB two years ago, and could be again if he comes off the injury well. So 21 Million wouldn’t be back-breaking.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
my guess
we sign osgood
we dont sign kampman
because NFL network made a good point, you would want kampman in just to see where he really is before you sign him, so maybe this is a lets run some tests, see the results and then offer you a contract later.
or maybe gene smith thinks he can get him cheaper if he offers him a contract now.
From what I'm hearing
The Jags are working hard to get him, and if they are that’s means we’ll likely find out sooner rather than later. I’d say within a couple of hours we’ll know one way or another.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
DE's over 30
I just heard John Clayton say, and I may have this wrong, but there have only been 4 defensive ends over the age of 30 that have had 2 seasons of more than 10 sacks.
I really like Kampman, but I don’t know if help is really on the way.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Who cares if he gets more than 10?
I’d be happy with him having 7-8 for a couple of years, and helping the other DEs generate more sacks.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 6, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
he’s not coming in to be a career player, he comes in to give us a couple of decent to good years at DE, so some younger talent can get better and keep some pressure off of Derrick so maybe Derrick will become better
According to his twitter
Kassim really likes Jax and thinks Gene Smith is awesome. I really like this guy!
Vae Victis!
Doesn’t matter if we sign every single player that makes a visit here because they could be cut before the season starts. There is no contract written in stone. Sure, it may cost the Jaguars to let a player go and have to suck up the rest of the contract, but…. OK, you get what I mean. Gene and Co. are intelligent guys when it comes to writing up free agent contracts.
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Any news on Kampman?
And with the tenth pick of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select.....Rolando Mclain. Suck it Tebow lovers!
looks like he’s still in town… so, i barely assume that would be a positive… seeing that he got here friday night…
Sean Jax Beach Bum
another jags fan has said michael wright says Kampan has been signed by the Jags… sort of unofficial, but Wright is usually.. right.
Sean Jax Beach Bum
Osgood signing
First of all, to write that the Jags have “zero need” for 3 time All-Pro Osgood on special teams because of Montel Owens is embarassingly ill-informed and ridiculous. Considering how important special teams are now in the NFl, I can’t believe I even read that. Second, if you look at the terms of the deal, this is an excellent signing. He is initially paid like a special teams ace and is only paid like a starting WR if he earns it.
I believe his point was
Osgood has a shot at being a receiver with us, and/or Owens may see more opportunities outside of special teams. His overall opinion is that this is a good signing. I mean, that is what his words state almost verbatim.
Vae Victis!
What should be Jags next move?
We helped our DL (I hope we sign Hayward to add depth) , we still need back-up LB, and safety to fix our D.
Interior lineman should help our OL be a lot of better. Maybe another runingback, and WR.
So I guess bigest need is S and G/C?
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