How does Kampman affect the Jaguars defensive plans?
by Jonathan Loesche on Mar 8, 2010 4:27 PM EST
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PrintIn what was expected to be a quiet free agency period for the Jaguars, they managed to grab one of the biggest fish in DE Aaron Kampman. The "Where's Waldo" guessing game as to where he was and the concerns over his ACL have been talked about enough that I'm going to skip them. Either way, the ripple effect of Kampman can't be ignored.
Here are a few collateral issues the Jaguars will have.
1. Reggie Hayward
The Jaguard offered HayDay barely above the league minimum, though with good reason. However, if Hayward did resign with the Jaguars, it would be an excellent sign of things to come. If Derrick Harvey can develope under Joe Cullen; between Hayward and Kampman the left side should be secure. Not to mention they could rotate out regularly and keep their respective injuries from popping up late in the regular season.
2. Derrick Harvey
For all of the bust labels thrown at Harvey, I thought he played well last year. After going back to a 4-3, he began to show signs of life. However, the Jaguars never had anything more than a mediocre DE on the other side, meaning even when Harvey did get penetration he would get double teamed. The signing of Kampman should light a fire inside if he has the competitive spirit to play in the NFL.
3. The Draft
I don't buy the idea that the Jaguars will still go defensive end at #10 after signing Kampman. Tra Thomas was always a stop gap player, and the Jags lucked out with Monroe falling to #8 last year. The Jaguars didn't pay Aaron $10 million in guaranteed money to be a stop gap player. The team paid him that to put Peyton Manning and Matt Schaub on their asses.
Granted, if the Jaguars have Derrick Morgan or Jason Pierre-Paul as the BAP, I think they'll take him. However, I think the Jaguars will look elsewhere, especially if Jimmy Clausen or Eric Berry fall.
4. Quentin Groves
If there is a big loser in all of this, it's most likely Groves. After spending most of last year either on the bench, getting mauled by opposing tackles, or being involved in hit and runs, I doubt he has much of a future with the team. The Jaguars were open to trade talks for him last year, and after signing Kampman I'm sure Groves will be on the trading block again. Even if he doesn't get traded, if he doesn't turn in an excellent off season and camp, the turk may pay him a visit.
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Hmm...
I agree that the Jaguars would be better off with Hayward on the roster. They should bump up that offer, if only a little bit and make sure he stays. It’s not like they’ll be getting compensatory picks next offseason anyway after signing Kampman and Osgood.
I don’t think the draft has been affected at all by the signing of Kampman. In my opinion, the Jaguars are just as likely or unlikely to draft a DE at 10th as they were before this weekend.
My first reaction to the signing was that the Jaguars should start shopping Groves. Tony McDaniel was worth a 7th rounder, Groves has to have somewhere around 5th or 6th round value. But according to Michael C. Wright, Groves will be here next season.
They still like Groves. JDR said he’ll be given a shot.
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veiled shot at Groves??
maybe the following was meant for someone currently on the team… maybe not… you decide..
"Some guys proved they could get to the quarterback in college, but it doesn’t translate to the pros," said Jaguars defensive coordinator Mel Tucker.
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Good thoughts
I too agree we need Reggie back in the fold, for depth and leadership. If we keep Groves we’ll see him more at OLB. I still think Gene will find a way to add picks, either thru player trades or by trading down. Berry would be a good pick at 10, but I just can’t help feeling that C.J. Spiller may end up a Jag.
I really doubt Groves will see any time at OLB
The only way he fits as an OLB is in a 3-4.
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I dont know
it seems like JDR is pretty high on Rashad Jennings, now that’s not to say that CJ wouldn’t be a great pick up, but I think that trading down must the first priority. Addition through subtraction, Groves was a failed project that we thought we could use because we thought we were so close to having all the pieces we needed, well Groves I think is expendable with Kampman coming in and hopefully Reggie coming back
You really think because JDR is high on Jennings that Gene won't take Spiller @ 10?
BAP.
I’m not worried about Jennings. If Spiller comes in and displays he is miles better than Jennings I have no problem letting him go or making him a 3rd string back. This is a business not a “i really like this guy let’s keep him instead of getting someone better”.
BAP all the way
You’re right, you can’t pass up talent just because you think you don’t need it. The Jags have done that in the past and got burned. If they don’t draft Spiller, at least trade down and get more picks, maybe with San Diego.
Well it sure doesn't sound like Hayward will be sticking around
This just came from his Twitter:
Want to thank the Fans for their support and the Jags org.. Its been a great 5 yrs but it’s time to move on. I wish all my guys the best!
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Could we get a compensatory pick?
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I doubt it
With Kampman and Osgood signing, the Jaguars signed more free agents than they lost which is a recipe for no compensatory picks.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Mar 8, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
where is he going??????
Thats probably why they want to keep Groves because they knew Reggie would’nt be here.
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Hayward was one of the good signings in the last few years
I hate that he got hurt. He could have been a very good player for the Jags.
agree
but “woulda, coulda, shoulda” is the story of the jags
jon this is an excellent post
right on target, simple but full of knowledge. Congrats!
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I don't think he affects
our drafting plans at all. Except maybe the chances of us trading down or not. Weather he facilitated the urge to trade down or not is up for discussion IMO.
concur
and i also dont understand why quite a few people think " gee, we can draft bap now " … i’m like… wtf, over? … bap is bap is bap… no matter what offseason signings you accomplish… no matter what offseason trades… no matter who is cut during the… yes… offseason.
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blah blah blah. work with what we have. move on from those we don’t. you can send Hayward a love letter later. he was good, but he ain’t here.
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Kampman does nothing to alter what Gene does in the draft (at least I hope not).
BAP all the way.
Calling Harvey a bust after just 2 years is just plain ignorant.
Reggie Nelson sucks, face it. Instead of tackling Reggie Wayne he went for the strip and fell……We need a new FS and Ryan Clark could of been a good solution, but I think we need a saftery or still a DE, yes we got Kampman, but he may not produce, and we don’t kniow if anyone else can produce
Clark may be old, but he could be a temporary fix, and maybe even teach Nelson
by rhettchrystal on Mar 9, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Clark was resigned by the Steelers anyhow… maybe that’s what rhett meant? anyhooooo..
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