Jon's Mock Draft
by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 16, 2010 3:00 PM EDT
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PrintAs all of the rest of the staff has done a mock draft so far, I guess it's my turn. I'll explain my picks along the way.
1. St.Louis Rams: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
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2. Detroit Lions: Russell Okung, LT, Oklahoma St
I've been on the Okung to Detroit bandwagon for awhile. I just think they need to make sure they keep Stafford from becoming David Carr 2.0
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Real simple, they take the best DT available
4. Washington Redskins: Bryan Bulaga, T, Iowa
Now that Synder has made yet another soul selling move to get Donovan McNabb, the Eagles go LT and try to sure up their offensive line.
5.Kansas City Chiefs: Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama
Scott Pioli spends a lot of time talking about getting the "right 53" players. Remember, nobody had the Chiefs taking Tyson Jackson until a few days before the draft. McClain would fit in perfectly in KC's 3-4 defense.
6. Seattle Seahawks:: CJ Spiller, RB, Clemson
There is a lot of love for Spiller in the Northwest.
7. Cleveland Browns: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Cleveland needs a ton of help in the secondary and with Berry there, it's a no brainer.
8. Oakland Raiders: Taylor Mays, S, USC
Typical Raiders pick. Great athlete, marginal football player. Same time next year?
9. Buffalo Bills: Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Marcus Stroud's injuries have gotten the best of him. McCoy is clearly the BAP at this point in the draft.
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Jaguars get their QB of the future
11. Denver Broncos: Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma St
They trade away one problem receiver, but may end up getting another. However, they need a clear #1 with Marshall gone.
12. Miami Dolphins: Earl Thomas, S, Texas
The Dolphins sure up their secondary with the versatile Thomas.
13. San Fransisco 49ers: Joe Haden, CB, Florida
The Niners need some secondary help and are more than happy to take the slipping Haden
14. Seattle Seahawks: Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
The Seahawks need to replace Walter Jones and Williams could be the guy to do that
15. New York Giants: Sean Witherspoon, LB, Missouri
Coughlin was always a needs drafter and the Giants biggest need is linebacker
16. Tennessee Titans: Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
They need someone to replace Kyle Vanden Bosch
17. San Francisco 49ers: Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
The 49ers need all the offensive line help they can get
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
The Steelers offensive line has been held together with paper clips and chewing gum for too long
19. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
With no other first round LBs available, they go with the physically imposing Graham
20.Houston Texans: Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise St
Even before Dunta Robinson left, the Texans had secondary issues
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
The Mike Brown scouting department makes another swing big pick
22. New England Patriots: Sergio Kindle, LB, Texas
They get another piece of the linebacker puzzle that started with Mayo.
23. Green Bay Packers: Jared Odrick, DE, Penn St
They need to find a good 3-4 DE
24. Philadelphia Eagles: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, USF
At this point, the talent outweighs the risks
25. Baltimore Ravens: Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
Maybe the most underrated player in the draft right now
26. Arizona Cardinals: Jerry Hughes, DE, TCU
27. Dallas Cowboys: Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida
The Boys need interior line help and they'll be thrilled to get Pouncey this late
28. San Diego Chargers:Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
The Chargers jump for joy at the thought of getting Williams this late, he'll be there NT for a decade
29. New York Jets: Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama
Rex Ryan takes a flyer on the monsterous NT from Bama
30. Minnesota Vikings: Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
A pass catching TE is all the Vikings need on offense if Favre comes back
31. Indianapolis Colts: Brian Price, DT, UCLA
The Colts interior defensive line was still a weakness last year and Price could benefit from the double teams that'll be commanded from the edge
32. New Orleans Saints: Ryan Matthews, RB, Fresno St
Deuce McCalister isn't what he used to be and Reggie Bush will never be an every down back in the NFL
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If it unfolds that way for the Jags
I would think there would be alot of temptation to trade down with Clausen, Bryant, Williams, Haden, and Thomas all available.
Saints
Not saying the Saints won’t pick Ryan Matthews, but McCallister isn’t relevant to the pick. He didn’t play at all last year and is retired now. Pierre Thomas is the starting back.
Point taken
Why I was holding out on doing a mock because it can be hard to get info on teams in the bottom half of round 1, considering all the attention is paid to the Top 10
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 16, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Discounting Undead Al?
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 16, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Mays
is a smarter pick this year than DHB last year. Having said that, I still don’t think it happens. Especially with McCoy on the board.
+1
Just about to say that. Mays may not be worth a top ten selection, but he is worth a top 50 selection. Unlike DHB, who should have been a third rounder. I still think DHB has potential, but he needs to sit for a few years and work his way into the rotation. He is nowhere near ready to be a number 1.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Yea that was
the single worst pick I have ever seen.- especially considering what was on the board. If I’m a Raider fan the draft scares the s outta me. Louis Murphy was a good 1 tho.
Mays needs to move to LB.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 16, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe SS
but not a FS imo.
FS has turned into a 3rd Corner. Mays is tight in the hips and that’s a no-no for DBs(especially FS/CBs). The double move could eat him up. I like him more as a in the box guy. I think having him play LB would be more of a mismatch/advantage than S. He has average coverage skills for a S but great coverage skills for a LB. It puts 1 more player that can cover on the field-which is a plus in the league today.
SS is also turning into more of a 4th corner-another reason I like him at LB
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 17, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Safeties
Shouldn’t be even thinking about thinking about(yeah, twice) jumping a double move. Mays would be fine in a cover two, or even playing single high, in a role that lets him see the ball and cover grass. He is hard to throw deep against, and most of his problems could be resolved with coaching. His stiff hips are over blown, they aren’t that bad if you watch his tape. Another thing over blown about him is his tackling. He isn’t horrible at it. He missed some tackles, but when he does the runner usually is stopped fully because of the speed he comes in at.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
well
it’s not jumping the double move it being able to transition with cuts. His tight hips make him lose a step. He has good recovery but NFL burners would too be far ahead after making crisp double move… He isn’t fluid when running laterally. Straight line yes. I see him matching up with RBs/ TEs better. Make him be the mis-match not have him mis-matched. I’d like to see him matched up against Dallas Clark/Owen Daniels.
Similar to Laron Landry. He got exposed in coverage with fast WRs. I think Landry’s hips are not as tight as TM. I love TM at LB. I think he’d be an average SS. I’ve seen some bad tape on him in coverage. Especially in deep space.
If you like him at FS that cool with me but IMO he can be a better LB than S
You can’t coach him to have loose hips. Either you have them or you don’t.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 17, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But
You can be coached to play well with tight hips. Like I said, they aren’t that tight. His change of direction isn’t great, but doesn’t have to be in a cover 2.
Landry is no where near as fast as Taylor Mays. I see what you are saying, but Mays blows Landry out of the water in recovery speed.
I’m cool with you liking him at linebacker as well. We all got opinions man. I just see him in the deep half, or even deep middle, as an enforcer that makes receivers gator armed.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Aren't the Jags going man
instead of cover 2. I’m not sure I needa look into that. I’m not a cover 2 fan tho. It’s too finesse for my liking
Landry is fast man he ran in 4.3s. Mays was 4 42 I think.
I’m not a combine guy but since it’s straight line speed we’re talking about I’ll go with it for whatever it’s worth. It could be a wash.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 17, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The NFL effed up his combine time. He only lost to I think Jacoby Ford when they put all the fastest together via computer. He clearly ran in the 4.3s, and many have reported him running in the 4.2s.
Jags, as far as I know, are a base cover 2 team. I’m really sure about that. Cover two isn’t finesse man, cover two corners are most often physical, and with good safeties that two deep zone can produce some big hits.
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-Akrobatik
yeah that was F'd
I saw the combine and how they had TM iin the 4.2s and then they changed it to 4.42-I never got all that. That’s a huge difference.
Yeah Cover 2 corners have to be physical to balance out the spread out formation. I say it’s finesse being as there isn’t usually much action at the line and it is more predictable. Cover 2 is focused on the deep ball. It allows too many easy yards.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 18, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Base cover 2
or Tampa 2 is the base philosophy for some 4-3 Ds like the Colts and older Bucs. Dungy was the mastermind behind it’s implementation. Jags use base Cover 2. It’s more than an occasional formation-its the philosophy on D.
When a team says it’s a Cover 2 it means that it’s secondary scheme is zone-never man-to-man.
The Cover 2 formation is used by all teams just like cover 3-but it is not the basis of their defensive philosophy. Unless their deemed a Cover 2 Defense. When Cover 2 the base philosophy it leaves a lot of easy yards to be gained. It’s because it’s focused on deep field. It occupies a lot of open space.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 18, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Cover-2
is a combo of man to man and zone.
And that’s true that not all teams run a cover-2 as their base. But most of the time, it might as well be.
And yest the Tampa-2 is a little different. Same general formations, but a slightly different philosophy. The MLB is much more involved in the deep middle passing game and the SS is often used like another LB.
Cover 3
Is more focused on the deep ball than two.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Its the base philosphy
Other teams use Cover 2 Cover 3 at times during the game-but it’s not the philosophy of their defense.
When a team is branded Cover 2 it always uses deep safeties occupying deep space.
Cover 3 is more of a formation not a D-philosphy. Cover 2 can be just a formation on a lot of teams but Tampa 2 or Cover 2 team’s use it to determine zone or m-2-m.and more.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 18, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how
Jahvid Best was the forgotten man when talking about the fastest at the combine. He did have the second fastest time after Ford, but everyone just kinda stopped talking about him. Just started talking about Spiller, Mays, and Ford.
He jumped well too.
If we got a second, I would have no problem with Best. He is not a prospect to carry a load, but he could be used all over the formation.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
TM
will never ever make it at LB. He’s horrible at getting off blocks and running through trash. He’s so high cut that he has no balance or leverage and his center of mass is too high for changing directions.
I look at Mays as a project
but I like the project. If I had my say with what to do with him, I want to keep up with the pass first league and have a LB that has S cover-skills. I think all he needs to do is bulk up. He’s kept his weight steady around 230 being that he’s been playing DB. I think he could easily go up to 255 and it will help him get off blocks and not be caught up in the trash. Lower body bulk mainly-I agree that he’s high cut filling in his lower body will even him out and work wonders on leverage.
The league needs an answer to TE/WRs like Clark and Daniels. The answer is S/LB
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 17, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel you
On adapting to the new game, but it screws you when you play teams like the Vikings or Titans, who do nothing but run at you the whole game.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
that's what the bulk is for
The Ideal S/LB has cover skills as safety but is a run stuffer like a LB. It is a rare player that can play this effectively.. TM seems like the best candidate since Urlacher
If TM was 255lbs LB I don’t think he’d be a liability in the run-game at LB. I think he could break some necks know what I mean
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 18, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if
He adds weight he isn’t going to be a plugger like a linebacker would.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
I think he has serious potential. A lot of teams are starting to talk about it. I’ll agree to disagree on it
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 18, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Aight
Only way to tell is what he does in the pros. Haha.
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-Akrobatik
Maybe you forgot the time span between the late sixties and early eighties as GM.
Those team had solid rosters. Even in the nineties to early 2000s the Raiders were pretty solid. It wasn’t until about 2003 that the team caved in. Al Davis does questionable things sometime as GM but he isn’t dumb.
He's more stubborn than dumb
The reason the Raiders are in last place is because Al Davis doesn’t want to admit his way of doing things is wrong. It may have worked in the past, but the league has changed since then. If he would hire a GM to run things, they would be in better shape.
Don't Forget
The Raiders went to the Super Bowl in 2004. They aren’t total retards.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Ok, 2003
No franchise is on top forever.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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aight
Cheif’s getting Mcclain is a reach. If they don’t trade they’ll get Berry. I don’t see Bulaga going before Trent Williams. I could see SW going to Giants. I kinda like Odrick at GB.
No way Dan Williams falls that far. Dolphins are seriously considering him. Steelers like Pouncey over Iupati.
Most of your picks make sense-I’m with the most of it.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 16, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
I agree with you about Dan Williams
he would not get passed:
The Ravens, who lost some DL and also had a hard time getting to the QB last year.
The Pats could use another DE/NT that can help ease the lose of Green and Seymour.
The Broncos who need another NT because Jamal Williams is 33.
Niners who are franchising their NT for one year. Besides he isn’t young either.
Steelers who need someone to replace old old Casey Hampton. Keep in mind he might be the BAP.
The Cards who’s NT is coming off a 3rd knee injury.
like it
Yea I’d puke if the Pats got him.. I don’t see how he can fall that far tho. I think SF would be the place if he doesn’t go to Bills/Dolphins. Yea Watson is banged up for the Cards-I think they’re gonna play Alan Branch at the nose. The Cards have sweet D-line with Cambell, Dockett and potentially Alan Branch. I see them going Jerry Hughes.
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on Apr 17, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice work
I think GB will take OT, they need one realy bad.
Cincy added few WR’s…they have bigger needs. and I don’t think TE.
About Oakland , you can never know with Al, they could take even Tebow.
Seattle picks could “swich” places, could take premium OT at 6, and wait for C.J or someone else at 16.
I like all other picks great work.
Yeah a couple of teams need Qb's before us
so i doubt Clausen will fall to ten. The real question is how high is he on Gene’s board compared to the candidates left. If Clausen falls i believe Gene would certainly attempt to trade down.
On another note if this is how the draft played out, it would fill desperate needs on many teams. That is of course leaving out the Raiders who always seem to reach. IMO the Dan Williams pick was the one most hard to believe. I’m not saying it can’t happen just highly unlikely. Other than that it’s probably the best mock I’ve seen yet but the thing about it is you know somebody will trade down or up. Does anyone know if it’s common or uncommon for there to be no trades in the first round?
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and no one mentions the pic of Suh about to wrestle a Sea Lion?
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 16, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
Jon's comments posted on B&T February 9th
jonathan Says:
Meh on a QB. If the helmet Bradford had on had TT on it instead of OU, he wouldn’t be in first round consideration.
Clausen? I really think he’s going to be Ryan Leaf 2.0 with his maturity.
Rolando McClain, Joe Haden, CJ Spiller, Derrick Morgan, Nate Allen, all make more sense than any QB. The 2011 draft is going to be neck deep in good QBs, take one then.
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Like I said
More I read up on Clausen, the more I think there was a much ado about nothing on his maturity.
I also was the one who started the CJ Spiller bandwagon back in February, only to jump off in March, and the go against when the national media brought it back to like last week.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 16, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You start trudging in dangerous territory when you start evaluating the next draft class
I love the 2011 QB class a ton, but you’re definitely taking a gamble when you pass on a QB this year because next year is the golden year.
Oh and Nate Allen? Really? I haven’t watched much of him, but I’ve never considered him as a candidate for us unless it’s the 3rd round or an acquired 2nd rounder.
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by Adam Stites on Apr 16, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
This was at the start of the draft process
A lot has changed in the last couple of weeks
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 17, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
However
I still do like Nate Allen, but I guess I was a little too overzealous by his Senior Bowl performance
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 17, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I like him to
But he is a mid late second guy. Nowhere near the first.
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Timmy not made the 1st round????
I think someone will pick him within the the 1st round:
Very dumb scenario: Buffalo or Oakland
Dumb scenario: San Fransisco at 17
Make a little sense: Minnesota or Arizona
What do you think?
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 17, 2010 2:37 AM EDT reply actions
"Deuce McCalister isn't what he used to be"
My first reaction after reading the Saints selection was, “what have you been smoking? Deuce was cut 2 years ago. And the Saints could use a guy like Toby Gerhart more in our 3 back attack.” But then again even though Deuce has been gone for a while, his story is actually an argument in your favor.
The only way the Saints pick a RB is if a situation like deuce happens. He was drafted at #22 because he was rated so much higher than anyone else on the board. Here is a quote from Micky Loomis, Saints general manager.
There’s always that guy that jumps up at you that you don’t expect to be there. In years past that guy has been Deuce McAllister; he’s one example of someone where we had no intention going into the draft of selecting a running back and at 22, Deuce was there staring at us and we said, ‘Let’s take this guy.’"
At the time we still had the pot smoking Ricky Williams, who Mike Ditka (spits) sold our future for. Thank goodness Ditka (spits) was fired and Loomis (choir music) was hired as our general manager.
So in retrospect I would have to say that is a possibility, but a very small one. But whatever happens I will trust Loomis (choir music) and his scouting staff. Good luck in the draft Jag fans, and good luck next year.
That was my first thought
about Deuce too. haha
But seeins how it would only help his situation I didn’t think it was worth typing a correction if his point was already made clear. But we have to remember. He was re-signed……as an honorary captain for the playoffs.
THIS JUST IN.
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I saw it on Fox News,
That’s PPV worthy right there
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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Understatement...
Hi here from your friendly FOX news station, where we report via fear and ignorance on all things Sea Lion and Cagefight related.
Intelligent people can decide the truth for themselves
and not rely on any network to distort information and spread fear. Doesn’t just apply to the real world either, just look at espn.
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