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NFL Draft Open-Thread pt. 3

As the clock continues to turn, a trade into the second looks less likely. Is there any way Gene would take just a 3rd rounder for "Big Hen"? I think we'll only be making one pick today, folks. Gene has shown a propensity for shocking moves though. I don't even know why we bother trying to mock the Jaguars, as they are probably the least predictable team in the NFL... 

Gene trusts his eyes... Give him credit.

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Texans traded with NE

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben Tate to Houston

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by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice job Texans

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Definently

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure the Vikings are helping themselves in this draft

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

not mccoy

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by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

woah

Montario Hardesty.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

OOOOOOOOOOOOo Hardestey

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN guys

Are so pissed off they can’t predict a pick

by jstnblke41 on Apr 23, 2010 8:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

well if Seattle doesnt take McCoy......it might be a while

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo is not worth a 2nd rd. pick, I hope we can get a 3rd for him

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I think 3rd is possible, his age doesn’t help things.

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

31 isn't that old for someone without a history of injuries.

He’s worth more this season than last offseason. He had a terrible/avg year 2 seasons ago, but a stellar year last season.

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

Essentially
Silly &
Pointless
Network

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

Especially
Stupid
People
Nothing else.

by Blair72 on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I’m flipping between them and NFL network and I keep watching ESPN just see them try to explain picks they don’t get right. Big time comedy

by jstnblke41 on Apr 23, 2010 8:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Except for

Kuharsky and now Michael C Wright

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colts will go OT. Let's pick it.

Brown or Campbell?

I vote Brown.

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

"I'm the black McGyver. Blagyver."

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

McCoy has to be taken by Seattle, Bills or Oakland....no way he falls further

but based on this draft, i could be completely wrong.

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by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

same

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a feeling we wouldn’t take him if we had the chance though..

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Is 31 too old for a DT or 3-4 DE? I think Hen has value...

31 isn’t that old for someone without a history of injuries.
He’s worth more this season than last offseason. He had a terrible/avg year 2 seasons ago, but a stellar year last season.

His contract doesn’t help though

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Not saying he’s old, just on the decline of his career. He’s not one of those old fatass NT’s that can sit in the middle forever. He’s up and down. Donovan Mcnabb was gone for a 2nd I believe.

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we could trade him to Dallas

And receive one of those linebackers they’re shopping. Throw in late round picks to make it work.

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by Adam Stites on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does Gene like Armanti Edwards

He would open up the offense big time

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

GREAT PICK

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping he'd continue to fall

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is why I'm think Armanti may be on Gene's value board

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way he made it out of the 2nd though...

He might be a 1st rounder any other year.

He ran a 4.4 and has lots of hands catches.

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet the Patriots are pissed

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a Q..

Would you have traded the #10 pick for Big ben or stayed and drafted who we did?

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Stayed

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wanna see how Alualu works out before i judge

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ben continues to be a polarizing character

Either you believe he’s a stud or you think he just got lucky with the team. I think dude is an ace. I’ll never forget when he single handedly beat the jags 2 years ago. He simply does not go down. Well, not down on the ground anyway

by JohnnyBiceps on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of these DT's going

is like a double edge sword. It’s nice because we are already have enough DT’s, and this means every time a DT is selected another position gets to fall further. To us in the third.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

The negative

each time a team drafts a DT high take another team off the market for Henderson.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there anyway we trade up to the Pats pick for Big Hen

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Via Vic

“Let’s start looking ahead to the third round and candidates for the Jaguars. I mentioned Minnesota WR Eric Decker earlier. How about DE’s Alex Carrington, Everson Griffen and Austin Lane, who was coached at Murray State by a member of the Jaguars staff?”

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by uclatroy on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It may just be name recognition

But I love Griffen. Thought is pro day was solid. Looks to have high upside.

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be fine with any of the DE’s, not crazy about Decker.

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by uclatroy on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vic Ketchman Apr 23 7:54 PM
I was starting to think the Jaguars would pull the trigger on a trade to move up and draft Sean Lee, as the Cowboys did. We’ll ask Gene Smith about it the next time we talk to him.

by alwaysforgiven821 on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn Sando says Jets took Ducasse

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by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

So you all rate this rookie ahead of big ben

nuthuggery

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d take a young franchise qb w/multiple ring any day… Yeah he has baggage but woooow

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not about players that

already have rings. It’s about getting one in the future.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say ben has a pretty good shot at more rings, I’m sure he’ll straighten his shit out

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well if you're sure...

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I am don’t worry

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I never liked Ben and I like him even less now that he’s in trouble and etc. Also the contract isn’t as bad. He’s not as young. And Garrard imo is just as good.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garrard is not even close.. eck

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This rookie is also not suspended for 6 games and doesn’t have sexual deviancy issues.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll be back and in the playoffs again and again and again

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

same

"I’m going to punish him. If he hits me, fine, but if I catch him, believe me, I’m going to get the better shot." - Fred Taylor

by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overrated

no different that Uche, except he would cost a pick and he would still have the learning curve.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say now yes

But the jury is out still

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea...

We’d been in a bad spot without Cox last season

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by silencecs on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's better

than any CB that was in drafted in the 2nd round. And he’s already got experience, and he’s getting paid a 3rd round salary.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has to be

Campbell would shock me. But I’ve been wrong all day.

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

11 picks till Jax

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by kterr on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

yea

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ummmm

Reminds me of McClain a little. Still don’t like him for our team in the third.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i watched him live

against USC him and jake locker single handedly beat them he is amazing thats not an understatement.

zachary cleary

by jagsfan4life on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he’s a good downhill LB, which means he shows up on TV a lot and to people not watching him specifically, but he doesn’t look great when you watch him specifically. Make no plays in the pass game.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Angerer??

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s good, but I think it’s a little high.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

So let's see how the Colts react to this

I’m sure they’ll find that silver lining. They roasted us for Alu

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Polian's 2nd rounders are busts for a while...

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point

I thought the Moala pick was so stupid. I argued so long at Jagnation that he wasn’t worth a 5th round pick. No one believed me.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ Edds?

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Vic's list
Let’s start looking ahead to the third round and candidates for the Jaguars. I mentioned Minnesota WR Eric Decker earlier. How about DE’s Alex Carrington, Everson Griffen and Austin Lane, who was coached at Murray State by a member of the Jaguars staff?

My boy is there!!!!

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

During this lull

Quick guess, Jags’ pick in rd 3?

I’m guessing George Selvie.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Not at all. Every time I watched anything on JPP, all I saw was George Selvie getting double teamed and getting push.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That’s why he’ll be available in the 5th or 6th

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by Adam Stites on Apr 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting push into the pocket. As for the round, there’s been a crazy run on DL, so I think the linemen will get picked a round or two earlier.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have him going in the fourth or fifth, but since there’s a run on defensive linemen, and Alualu came about fifteen picks before I would have considered him, I think Selvie in the 3rd is reasonable.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colt McCoy

He is a winner, fills a need and doesnt cost that much$$

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Colt Fans are a Riot

They are crying on StampedeBlue because ESPN cuts to a commercial when they pick.

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Totally bent the Saints Got Brown

Totally makes my draft

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll appreciate that

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That always happens to us

It was way worse for us last year. We didn’t even see our picks announced. They talked about them in retrospect for like a second to say, “who are they?”.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morgan Burnett please make it to Jax

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by Jonathan Loesche on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Vic mentioned this 4 player

Eric Decker Alex Carrington, Everson Griffen; Austin “my boy” Lane

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been a huge fan of

Lane for a while now too. I wish I had more to grade him from.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He already did that

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’T want surprises (although Austen would be a surprise; just not for me)

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, he always does that

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt

he’ll fool me. Maybe in the 4th round.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no matter who he picks everyone will love them all of a sudden

by kickandsnare07 on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he's a good player

I will like him. Still hasn’t picked a bad player though.

by Ewdtrey on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

+25

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha probably

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I think TB is doing very well

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by Brian Fullford on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

They’re doing pretty damn good.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit has veeeeery good picks

Shack must be kidnapped

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by Zoltan from Budapest on Apr 23, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

noooooo

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by Thunder64 on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised Thaddeus Gibson is still on the board..

Everyone considers him a 3-4 OLB, but he started as a LB, and talent wise i think he’s got tonnes of upside. Not really a Gene pick though….

by alsonot on Apr 23, 2010 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

as well as Everson Griffen and Corey Wooton.

by Kbot on Apr 23, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

New thread is up

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