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2010 UDFA Profile: John Estes, C, Hawaii

Back in February, March and early-April, when mock drafters were in a frenzy, many thought that John Estes would be a late round pick. There were also quite a few who thought that the Jaguars could be a potential landing spot for the Hawaii center. Instead he watched 7 rounds go by without his name called. Although that may have been a blessing in disguise as he got the opportunity to choose to go to Jacksonville where he may have an opportunity to compete. 

The interior line issues of the Jaguars have been well documented here on BCC. The recent addition of Justin Smiley looks to potentially help the problem, but it is far from fixed. If Smiley remains healthy and plays above what is expected of him, the opportunity to move Uche Nwaneri to center as a replacement for the declining Brad Meester would be available, but the question remains as to whether or not Nwaneri could make the transition effectively. What this all boils down to is uncertainty at the center position with no clear replacement for Meester in place. For these reasons, Estes will have a legitimate opportunity to prove himself in training camp as worthy of a roster spot.

Star-divide

After redshirting in 2005, Estes started every game for the following four years setting the NCAA record for consecutive starts at 54. Not only did he start every game, he played in every single snap of those 54 games. 3,618 snaps without once coming off the field. In his final three years as a Warrior, he earned 1st team All-WAC honors becoming only the 5th Hawaii player to do so, the last being Miami receiver Davone Bess

In a pass happy offense, Estes allowed only 8.5 sacks and 6 pressures over a span of 2,337 pass plays in his 4 year career. Why, then, would an experienced, polished and durable center like Estes watch 255 players get picked instead of him en route to undrafted free agency? 

There are questions as to how well his play will translate to the next level. He's doesn't have great size at 6'2, 302. He doesn't have great speed at a 5.35 40 time. He doesn't have great strength at 25 bench reps. In fact, he's not particularly great at anything and whether or not he'll be able to handle the jump in athleticism from the WAC to the NFL remains to be seen.

Another factor in Estes's falling draft stock was the poor play from former Warrior centers in the NFL before him. Samson Satele projected very similarly to the way Estes did and was drafted by Miami in the 2nd round in 2007. After two seasons he was traded away to Oakland for a 6th rounder and a swap of 4th rounders. Whether or not Estes can break that mold will have to be seen in training camp and preseason, but with turmoil on the interior line of the Jaguars he will get a fair shot.

Video Killed the Scouting Report

John Estes: By the Numbers

John Estes
Position 1:  Center
Height:  6'2
Position 2:  Guard
Weight: 302
Class:  Senior Age:  23
Bench Reps: 25

 40 Time:  5.35


According to the Experts:

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Quick hands to make the traditional snap and attack the oncoming defender with good hand placement and pop. Good lateral agility and balance to mirror pass rushers. Flashes the ability to anchor and knows how to use leverage, proper hand placement and good balance. Lacks the bulk, strength and long arms to hold up consistently against a powerful bull rush.

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Pros

Smart, durable and reliable. Off-season work-ethic is obvious with 54 straight games played without an injury. Among most experienced centers in the draft. Uses hands well and takes proper first-level angles. Great mass with good pass blocking with good lateral agility and shot-gun snapping skill.

Cons

Lacks overall size some teams prefer at center. Almost exclusive career has been shotgun/spread snaps and will have some transition to traditional 'under-center' snaps. Struggles with run-blocking versus massive nose tackles.

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He is someone we must look for

IF Brad Meester will be cut- then it means he is a sold backup C.

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by Zoltan from Budapest on May 27, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I like his resume,,,,

Anyone who plays every snap at center over a 4 year period at any level is impressive. I’m sorry, but just how important is the 40 time for a center? I’m more concerned with his hand speed and agility on his feet, not how fast he can run in a straight line. I think this guy will at least make the practice squad.

by Jaggernaut on May 27, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I have high hopes

I’m looking forward to hearing how he does with pads on… hopefully an oklahoma drill vid like last years!

by alsonot on May 28, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Cecil Newton?

What happened to him? At one point the coaching staff were quite high on him, if I remember correctly. I would have thought he would be the next in-line to make the roster as a back-up C if Meester is actually cut. That is not a given yet anyway, since Meester has apparently had a solid/good off-season so far.

by KeithG on May 28, 2010 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The quickest way to the QB is through the center

Short arms and not able to stand up to a bull rush sounds like reason enough not to use a draft choice on him. To be honest, I don’t know why the Jaguars are bothering either.

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by Tkopa on May 28, 2010 6:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Put him on the practice squad

and try to develop him.

Quality Centers are pretty hard to come by. I remember the Colts drafting 3 of them 2 years ago and Jeff Saturday is still starting and I think only 1 of them has seen significant time at G.

by pksiv on May 28, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has a skinny guy's head!

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by FRANKdubz on May 28, 2010 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks fat

6’2" 302 isn’t bad, but it looks like a lot of fat in that video. He appears to have the frame of a guy that should be 240lbs, but the fat puts him at 300.
Meester is 6’3" 310 and Newton is 6’2" 310, but do they have big bellies like Estes?

by Conservative on May 28, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m 6’3 and 315lbs and my belly is nowhere near as big as his!

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by floridafalcons#63 on May 28, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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