Derrick Harvey: Primed For a Breakout Year
In 2008 the Jaguars sent away their first round selection along with two third rounders and a fourth rounder to the Ravens to move up 18 spots and select Florida DE Derrick Harvey. The Jaguars later traded away their second and fifth round picks to move up in the second round to select Auburn DE Quentin Groves. In one day the Jaguars traded away the entire middle of their draft to select two players in the hope that they would become sack machines for the Jaguars en route to a Super Bowl.
It would be an understatement to say things haven't gone quite as planned. After two seasons the Jacksonville pass rush has further deteriorated causing Gene Smith to trade away Groves, leaving Harvey as the only remaining player from the 2008 draft class. In his two seasons Harvey hasn't been very impressive either, accumulating only 5.5 sacks in 32 games and 25 starts. Although he has developed into a very strong run defender at the DE spot, the "bust" talks will continue until he starts to bring the quarterback down. Is Harvey in the perfect situation to silence the critics in 2010?
Adjustment:
Adjusting to the speed of the NFL is something that defensive ends rarely do well in their rookie years. While there are players that make the adjustment well, in most cases a player will go through a year or two of subpar production before establishing themselves as a sack threat in the NFL. Here's a look at some of the NFL's greatest sack artists who made up for their lack of production in their first seasons with breakout seasons and successful careers:
| DE Breakout Years | |||||
| Player |
1st Year | 2nd Year | Career | ||
| John Randle | 1.0 | 9.5 | 137.5 | ||
| Richard Dent | 3.0 | 17.5 | 137.5 | ||
| Mario Williams | 4.5 | 14.0 | 39.5 | ||
| John Abraham | 4.5 | 13.0 | 89.5 | ||
| Player |
1st 2 Years | 3rd Year | Career | ||
| Chris Doleman | 3.5 | 11.0 | 150.5 | ||
| Rickey Jackson | 4.5 | 12.0 | 128.0 | ||
| Sean Jones | 9.5 | 15.5 | 113.0 | ||
| Patrick Kerney | 5.0 | 12.0 | 82.5 | ||
| Player |
1st 3 Years | 4th Year | Career | ||
| Kevin Greene | 13.5 | 16.5 | 160.0 | ||
| Leonard Little | 5.5 | 14.5 | 87.5 | ||
After 2 seasons Derrick Harvey has 5.5 sacks. There's no guarantees that there will be a breakout season; however, it is worth noting that many of the greatest sack artists required a period to adjust before finally finding success.
Teammates:
In 2009, Harvey started all 16 games at defensive end while the opposite DE spot saw a rotation of players. Reggie Hayward was set to be the full-time starter, but suffered a season ending injury in the season opener against the Colts. From that point on the Jaguars rotated through a group of players, none of which were successful. Quentin Groves, Bryan Smith and Julius Williams all saw starts while James Wyche, Greg Peterson, Jeremy Navarre and Chris Harrington all saw snaps at DE. None of whom found success at much of anything.
As a consequence, Harvey saw double teams and blocking schemes focused on stopping him. In the rare event that he managed to break through en route to the quarterback it was most likely that: A) the ball was no longer in the quarterbacks hands, or B) the quarterback was able to evade the pressure without the threat of another player being in position to make the sack.
Gene Smith set out to solve that problem this offseason with the addition of Aaron Kampman in free agency, the resigning of Reggie Hayward and by drafting DEs Austen Lane and Larry Hart. Also added in the hopes of providing a pass rush from the inside out was first round draft pick, Tyson Alualu, and third round draft pick, D'Anthony Smith. Barring horrible results from all 6 additions, opponents of the Jaguars will see a pass rush from the defensive line. The likelihood that Derrick Harvey will be receiving the double teams he has in the past is significantly slimmer.
With that will hopefully come more opportunities to get after the quarterback. Also keep in mind that because Harvey played a season in which opposing teams focused their blocking schemes to stop him, he's probably a better player as a consequence. Similar to that of a baseball player warming up with weights on his bat, Harvey will hopefully be playing with the same intensity as though there are two players to beat.
Motivation:
Ok I'll be honest, this one's a little harder to measure, but I have to figure there has to be the desire in Harvey to prove the naysayers wrong. Don't put too much stock in things heard this early in the offseason, but the early word out of mini-camp is that Harvey is playing like his "hair is on fire." Also, according to most of those in attendance at the mini-camp, namely our head writer Alfie Crow, Harvey was beating Eben Britton like a drum in drills.
It appears that the perfect storm of circumstances have been laid down in front of Derrick Harvey. There's no telling whether or not Harvey will become a feared sack artist or if he's simply a bust, but if he is to have a breakout year, this is the year where everything seems to be just right.
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I have one more reason
why Harvey might break out this year. His D-line coach is not anymore Ted Monachino; but Joe Cullen. I think that factor plus Kampman; Hayward; Hart and Lane= You got every tool to be successful Derrick…
I would say with 6-8 sacks this year; I would be totaally OK. Every perfomence above that is a great year!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on May 3, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
dont forget about my boy
DA Smith
and that Lane feller i member hurrin som tin or nuther but hymm
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Don't forget....
Mr. Alualu in that list. If Hayward, Knighton, and Alualu can put some up the middle pressure on the QB, then he will have to flush right or left into the arms of Harvey or Kampman!
whoever voted
for 12.5+ sacks must be high or something. when someone says breakout it does not mean 12X ones production. I think doublng to tripling prduction within a year sounds right.
by Jagsrok9008 on May 3, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
According to the chart...
…to be considered an elite DE, he should hit double digits in sacks this year.
The bar for Harvey's breakout season is so low
a bowling ball could jump over it. Just saying-
I agree a lot with the post- I do expect Harvey’s experience in league, and new help around him can improve his game
I thought Bryan Smith played pretty decent.
Fair and Balanced
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on May 3, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Harvey at least
should be able to double his career total when the season is over.
I don’t think his 5.5 fully shows his defensive play. He played better than that.
I like Harvey’s power moves over his finesee moves. I wonder if he bulked up a bit this offseason
Fair and Balanced
by MikeThomasSlotReceiver on May 4, 2010 1:05 AM EDT reply actions
Don't forget...
He was tops in QB hurries last year. Think about that for a second. Now with a new DL coach, faster, better players on the DL and a better LB corps, it sets Harvey up for a improve season…
One life to live, live it to the fullest...
by SDubxl456 on May 4, 2010 5:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Jaguars "official" stats
… have Harvey as having the most QB hurries of any Jag D-lineman. I don’t think SDubxl456 was talking about the entire league, just the Jags. For all the criticism he has received form the fans, he IS the best Jag player at pressuring the QB.
I dont know
about everyone else, but im stoked to find out what Derrick can do with people pushing from other sides of the pocket. This guy is a player and i am really looking forward to watching him this year. I voted 8-12 which is reasonable since he is an every down DE. Im usually the most excited each year about the previous two years draft classes proving their worth. Harvey, Monroe, Cox, Britton, Pot Roast, Thomas, Miller…those are the guys who are poised to blow up on the national scene with Pocket Hercules. Is it August yet?
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+1
I totally agree with you every year is my hope for that to happen.
my prayers are that Harvey becomes a probowler this year
I’m more concerned with increasing QB hits as opposed to sacks – although the sacks definately need to improve. Actually putting the QB on the ground and causing him some ‘pain’ is key to disrupting his game — Peightun Manning leaps to mind here. One sack isn’t going to put him off his game — consistenly hitting him definately will — ask SD.
Good post.
I have watched most of the 2009 season’s Jags games multiple times and I always finish watching wondering just how tough Garrard is. He might get sacked 3 times in a game, but he gets HIT very often… and they are not gentle hits. I’d love to watch just one single game where Manning took those sorts of hits…. just so I could see how it affects his game.
I know what you mean
some of those games I went back and watched, I couldn’t believe the heat Garrard was under. He was getting often times even before he was hitting his drops.
my bad...
I was referring to the team, lol…Hopefully this is the year where DH puts it all together. Having a penetrating DT in Alualu and Smith and a savy DE Kampman on other side should do wonders…
One life to live, live it to the fullest...
DE rarely have break-out years after years of lackluster performance. With non skill positions, you either have it or you don’t.
by The Licensed Pessimist on May 4, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
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Harvey's set at the Left DE spot, right?
I think the most sack production will be coming out of Kampman at RDE, but I think 8 is a reasonable number for Harvey on the run-heavy side of the line.
In Gene We Trust.
It all depends on how teams play us
at least at the start of the season I’m sure if they have an extra blocker, he’s going to be on Kampman.
That’s the key. Last season the extra blocker could just sit back and wait to see what happened.
This year, hopefully, they’ll actually have to plan double-teams for some of these guys. If Alualu proves to be a real penetrating DT, then they’ll have to double him. That’ll mean they’ll have to use a TE or RB if they want to double Kampman, which will leave Harvey only with 1 man to beat. And as important for both Harvey and Kampman, hopefully no where for the QB to run to.
I agree
8 is reasonable. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get more or less. More than 12 would however surprise me.
+1
12 would be great but unlikely. Harvey has no excuses for not getting to the QB this year,(not that he has made any). This new line excites me and even though we have a huge weekness at safety I still think that the new pass rush will be able to cover down for them.
Actually...
it’s more important that the Team total is WAY up than it is for Harvey’s individual total. I mean if he continues to improve he might get doubled more often in which case one of the other guys might benefit from the increased sack totals.
Last year
Harvey was doubled plenty, because the opposing team hardly had to worry about anyone else. I expect Harvey to do better this year primarily because teams WON’T be able to double Harvey the majority of the time. If Kampman is doing well, and Alualu is as disriptive as we all hope it’s going to be interesting to see how opposing teams decide to play things. Can’t double 3 guys at a time :)
Kampman
Remember that Kampman is coming off of knee surgery and it is very possible that he will get hurt again OR not that effective.

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