Quick Bytes - 5/8/10

by Adam Stites on May 8, 2010 12:30 PM EDT in Jacksonville Jaguars Quick Bytes

ESPN AFC South Blog - Jags need big Year 2 from Cox, Knighton

Paul Kuharsky discusses the impact that Cox and Knighton had on the Jaguars in 2009 and the growth needed from them in 2010. (Props to cuffs007 for finding this long before myself)

Black and Teal - Things I am excited about

Good friend of BCC, Terry O'Brien, talks about why he's excited about the Jaguars in 2010 and moving forward.

Florida Times-Union - Jaguars renew search for a special return threat

Michael DiRocco discusses the Jaguars' hunt for "a guy that the other team fears."

New York Times - How to Measure Team Age in the N.F.L. and What It Means for 2010

Chase Stuart evaluates the average age of each NFL team and the Jaguars come in 2nd to the Texans as the youngest team.

Yahoo! - Sims-Walker not enough to elevate Jags

Surprise, surprise. The Jaguars aren't receiving much respect from the national media. Jason Cole ranks the Jaguars receiving corps as 28th in the NFL.

Twitter - Don Carey graduates today

The title says it all. Don Carey has said on his Twitter that he graduates from college today. Congratulations Don.

Mile High Report - Denver Broncos sign OL Maurice Williams

Former 2nd round pick of the Jaguars who spent 9 years in Jacksonville finally found a new home in Denver.

Edmonton Journal - Esks sign NFL defensive backs

Former Jaguars Isaiah Gardner and Weldon Brown were both signed by the Edmonton Eskimos of the CFL.

Stampede Blue - The Curse of the Third Round continues: Kevin Thomas injuries knee, possibly done for 2010 season

BigBlueShoe brags and boasts about his greatness.

Battle Red Blog - Brian Cushing Suspended For Four Games: Reaction

Texan fans react to the news that their first round pick from 2009 has been suspended for 4 games.

Mocking the Draft - Biggest Non-QB Busts

Our own Jonathan Loesche debates who holds the title at each position for the biggest drafts bust in NFL history.

Pro Football Focus - The Elusive Rating

Sam Monson tries to put a measurement on the elusiveness of running backs in the NFL.

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Wow- Quick bytes is back

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by Zoltan from Budapest on May 8, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions

D'oh! superseded again! haha

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by cuffs007 on May 8, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

The age article was interesting

In that I don’t think it proves anything. If you round the ages out then the oldest and youngest teams are only seperated by 3 years. That doesn’t seem like a big gap to me, that’s like drafting a junior versus a medical redshirt senior, it really isn’t a big deal.

Also it seems that age doesn’t really reflect success, Houston and Jacksonville are both fringe playoff teams and New England and Minnesotta are both considered threatening playoff teams. At both extremes are Tampa and Washington, there’s nothing going on with either of those teams in my opinion. Just my opinion, just don’t know what to draw from the study.

by jstnblke41 on May 9, 2010 8:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Average age

is not nearly as important as age at crucial positions.

by Ewdtrey on May 10, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions

Very true

But the it was weighted to reflect that. I suppose it’s nice to have a young team but it’s not as important as having good players reguardless of age.

by jstnblke41 on May 10, 2010 12:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

The article was weighted to reflect that*

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by jstnblke41 on May 10, 2010 1:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

No it didn't

Sort of yes, but not in the way I think is most important. For instance, it doesn’t take into account years in the NFL. A WR is young until his 3rd year usually, when they breakout often times. OL often make a big jump in their second year. And on the other hand, old LB’s and CB’s usually don’t play well in their twilight years because they lose their speed, while OL’s can be older without losing too much talent. In other words, a 30 year old QB is just starting to come into his prime and a 30 year old RB is likely already over the hill. What the PFF guys do is take into account how much impact the individual players had and weighted them heavier with greater impact.

by Ewdtrey on May 10, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I'll Rec that... very succinct explanation.

I’ll disagree with the QB assessment though. I think they can be great regardless of age… We have Matt Ryan, and we have Brett Favre.

As for RB’s and LB’s… You’re right. They typically have a steep drop-off too. See Larry Johnson… They’ll suddenly just get old, and their production flatlines. That’s the rule, not the exception.

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by silencecs on May 10, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions

I think the general

community should take notice of the once proclaimed future franchise QB’s in Flacco and Matt Ryan are not taking the next step forward that they were expected to when people said they would rather have them than Garrard. I would rather have one of them than Garrard because of youth. All 3 QB’s have similar QB ratings and Matt Ryan actually got significantly worse as the year wore on. So remember the next time we want to claim a QB will be great, they don’t always improve. Sometimes the young QB’s get worse.
Most Qb’s coming in, over time, wont be as good as Garrard over the breadth of their career; and Garrard the last few years has not had a lot of advantages: Somewhat lacking running game, pass blocking and OL in general, average at best WR’s, all new WR’s that either were hurt in the off season or got hurt during the season…..Flacco and Ryan have had every advantage, and they have not taken that next step to elitism.

by Ewdtrey on May 10, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I think Flacco might be a little better then you give him credit for

Mostly because the Ravens really made the transition to being a much more pass oriented team so his stats might reflect he struggled a bit without a more steady run game.

I would agree in general though, this league doesn’t have a lot of elite guys behind center. The Jags have an above average guy in my opinion, that’s better then I can say for most teams really. Better to have Garrard then most other guys starting I would say from a pure production standpoint.

by jstnblke41 on May 10, 2010 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I think Flacco

is a good player, but I remember last year everyone was claiming we missed on a great player(We did miss out on a good player) and imagine how good he’ll be when gets more time in the NFL. Basically I’m just saying people like to point out other players when they are having good years but forget to re-mention them when they start to fail. Another player like that was Chad Pennington in 08. “Look at the mistake we made of not signing him” etc. Now who would we rather have? The list is long, but it’s also forgotten. I just think we should be reminded.
How about:
Jay Cutler,
Vince Young(goes back and forth),
Brady Quinn(Someone we “should’ve” drafted),
Big Ben(He’s a winner, but now he can’t get on the field and he cost nearly twice as much money), Carson Palmer(Has a good OL and running game and a pro bowl WR, but still can’t get it done),
Mark Sanchez(After the good early start of wins everyone was already calling him better than Garrard, but turned out to be one of the worst starting QB’s in the league last year. I do expect him to be better in the future however.),
Jason Campbell,
Matt Cassell before being traded to the Chiefs,
Kyle Orton after the early start last year,
Matt Hasselbeck,
Matt Moore (Will be another guy that will fail in all likelyhood),
Jake Delhomme(He went to the SB),
Trent Edwards (When he first started playing),
Derek Anderson.
All of these guys have been called better than Garrard at one point, and yet, Garrard isn’t looking all that bad right now compared to them.

by Ewdtrey on May 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree with that

And your assessments. I like Garrard and I would rather have him then most starters in the league right now.

by jstnblke41 on May 10, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Ravens

Are still a run oriented team.

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by Bestjagfan on May 10, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Your right

3rd in rushing and 19th in passing, although Flacco threw 10 more TDs and stayed even with INTs so that’s probably where I got the idea in my head they were a more pass oriented team.

Could be an interesting dynamic with them next year with Boldin, Flacco could take another big step forward.

by jstnblke41 on May 10, 2010 7:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

Yeah

I’m sure they’ll still stay run based, with Cam Cameron and their stable of backs, but Boldin will help the passing game even more, especially intermediate range, and running after the catch. Derrick Mason is getting old and Mark Clayton isn’t a number 1. They needed to make a move.

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by Bestjagfan on May 10, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Another thing that probably

threw you off is the fact they came out throwing at the beginning of the season and they were shown on TV a lot at that time, but when they went back to running more they weren’t on TV anymore. But take a look at the stats in their last win against the Pats.

by Ewdtrey on May 11, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions