Jacksonville Jaguars defeat Tampa Bay Buccaneers 19-13
by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT
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The Jaguars entered their third preseason game with plenty of questions that needed to be answered, and it seems that instead they leave with even more. Some old habits from 2009 came back. While the offense racked up plenty of yardage, the first team only managed six points vs one of the worst defenses in the NFL. Penalties galore wiped out potential first downs and put the team in bad positions. But, at the end of the day, there was more good than bad.
The biggest cause for concern was David Garrard's interception at the goal line. Garrard led the NFL in red zone turnovers a year ago, and that isn't what the team or fans wanted to see. There was plenty of blame to go around on the play, a bad play design and a missed block that let a defender go free, but at the end of the day Garrard was responsible for the throw. He locked onto Greg Jones and never took his eyes off of him.
The pick does undermine the rest of Garrard's day, as he put up otherwise good numbers. He completed passes to 8 different receivers and built on his performance from the 2nd game.
Luke McCown and John Matthews teamed up to provide the highlight of the night. McCown threw a perfect pass and Matthews made an excellent catch for the Jaguars lone touchdown. McCown had another solid outing, and did enough to keep Garrard's seat warm. Matthews on the other hand has played himself into at least a PS spot, and perhaps the 5th WR spot.
After a solid outing vs Miami, the offensive line regressed tonight. Every member of the line had at least one face palm worthy moment, whether a holding penalty that wiped out a first down, a false start on third and short, or a blown block. Consistency is the name of the game, and that hasn't been the case for the line so far. Hopefully with Eben Britton now healthy, the team can move forward.
In addition, Uche Nwaneri nixed himself out of the center competition officially tonight. He was lackluster as a blocker and the snap over David's head was the kiss of death for him.
The biggest surprise of the night was the reemergence of the Jaguars running game, despite Maurice Jones-Drew absence. Special teams ace Montell Owens looked surprisingly natural as the primary running back, rushing for 24 yards on six carries. The real star of the night from Brock Bolen. Bolen, a second year player from Louisville, was the Jags leading rusher and receiver. Bolen's emergence may be the final straw for Greg Jones. Jones' contract doesn't match his current ability, making him a liability.
On the defensive side of the ball, the Jaguars finally got an extended look at the starting defensive line. The early returns? A collective, eh. While the line did manage to get some pressure, it didn't produce any sacks. Tyson Alualu didn't have too much of an impact, and took himself out of a few plays to boot. On the other hand, Aaron Kampman continues to improvement.
On the bright side, the Jaguars special teams continues to shine, and may well be the best special teams unit in the NFL.
Overall, there are plenty of questions that will now need to get answered during the regular season. The Jaguars were going against one of the worst teams in the NFL, and if they were serious about being a playoff contender, the "1s" should've had an easier time. Hopefully the team simply used up it's mulligans in this final dress rehearsal and come out vs Denver completely focused.
UPDATE #1: Jack Del Rio informed the media that TE Marcedes Lewis is fine and would've continued playing had it been a regular season game
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Garrard's stat line is grossly misleading.
Sure he distributed the ball, and he had a high completion percentage but most of his throws were under 10 yards, and against a very bad Tampa team. David check’s down way too much, and I won’t even get into how badly he telegraphs his throws. It is like he wants the defenders to know where the ball is going.
I didn't watch the game
but the fact that Garrard was able to throw so many short passes without going INT crazy and while gaining significant yardage usually says something about the coverages he was seeing. And probably the pass rush that he was getting up front.
I’ll have to watch tomorrow night.
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david looked good, as did the rest of the offence, the only reason this game was close was the interception. yes it was a bad pas, but the o looked great, and the line did a good job,,,wake up sgun, and try to cheer for the team tah you claim to be a fan of!
look - bottom line this thing
although David statistically had a good night, this offense once again, gagged, choked, and wheezed in the red zone. And he had another redzone turnover. Blame on O line, blame it on play calling, blame it on the moon – bottom line, he continues to struggle big time in red zone.
He’s our number 1 qb – he is better than McCown and he should start – but Gosh Dang (family site courtesy) we need to find a someone who can get us in the end zone.
And we all know that a QB will be a top priority in next years draft...
but the fact that a guy can claim to see a QB telegraphing a pass watching a game on TV is BS. Way to use a football “comment” just to hear yourself talk and try too sound important. OGN, you are correct that DG and the offense strugled in the red zone, and that heeds to get better. You bring up a good point in a constructive way, unlike the first poster on this story.
And just a note for consideration…in this weeks pre-season games, Mr. Romo and Mr. Manning both looked a bit rough (being kind),,,,,maybe they were telegraphing their passes too!!!! Maybe I should ask Slvrgun!
This is true
But, I think it was the offense as a whole that stuttered in the red-zone. How many of those damn penalties can be blamed on the QB? Or are you saying that we would not have commited those errors if we had a different QB? Was it the QBs fault that the center snapped a ball over the QBs head etc etc?
Garrard had a good night (not brilliant) and he DID throw that INT. But, to blame the inability of the offense to score on him alone is not just crazy but ignores the real scope fo the problem.
Please note the term "this offense (key word here Keith) once again ...."
but to ignore and excuse away DG’s own contribtion to our red zone impotence and ingnore the continuing saga of comitting red zone turnovers is crazy. It isn’t going to change anything this season and everyone knows it. It’s simply another reason that there is a sense of urgency to address this position asap.
OK, fair enough
I have no complaints whatsoever with getting a new QB (just let him perform better than Sanchez is doing, please!).
I hear that Maurice Jones - Drew guy is pretty good
Maybe we should play him next time.
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he has a meniscus injury hes not going till week 1……….i can tell you he got it probably in the colts game when he was headlocked and slung backwards on his head ‘tackled’ i mean
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Just a lil sarcasm
On we should find somebody that can get us into the end zone. MJD’s been the best in the league in doing it and he was yet another guy not playing.
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How did you (I mean everybody here)
the competition for the G spot?
Also I think the Tyron Brackenridge pick is might the last nail to Reggie’s coffin. The whole secondary (other then Anthony Smith) looked bad today in the 1st unit- which is freightening cause that was Tampa for God sakes, with Josh Johnson…
And please someone show the tape to Gene about Carey. He is not even a practice squad quality guy….
Matthews might chased Troy Williamson/Underwood(Probably the 1st) off from this roster. I think they will have a battle in Atlanta….
Oh and I hope Gene will be smarter with getting something for Greg Jones; then the way he handled John Henderson. I think Greg is done here sadly. Brock Bolen will make this team; I can’t imagine the opposite after tonight.
Oh; and we got really weapons. MJD out; Marcedes most of the game out- looks like nothing serious. And still the jags offense moved those chains pretty well- except when they were in the Redzone.
Oh and poor Tampa… Attendance problems and a really bad team. They are a serious contender for the 1/1 ( along with St Louis and the Buffalo).
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 28, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
As far as Greg Jones, it’s the same exact situation as Henderson. An older vet who’s contract isn’t up to par with their current abilities. Teams know he’s most likely not going to be a Jag for much longer. Best we could get for him is a decent safety that another team was looking to get rid of anyway.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 28, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Gene can manage it
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You say that as if Greg Jones has played poorly.
Jaguars are going to rely heavily on the run this year, I think Jones makes it.
by Alfie Crow on Aug 29, 2010 12:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The thing also is, I don’t recall seeing Owens or Bolen actually line up at fullback. They caught/carried the ball.
Is it me or did Montell lose some weight?
He looks smaller to me this year. I remember him being the backup FB, but this year, he looks like a tail back. Is it pads or is he smaller? Am I mistaken?
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Imo
He has always looked more like a tailback
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+1
I really liked what I saw from Bolen.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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I disagree about Alualu....
I thought he played well, stuffing the run up the middle on several occasions. Also, no mention of Anthony Smith and the noticeable improvement on tackling by the entire defense.
Yeah the DTs
looing fine to me. I’m more concern about Derrick Harvey. He is M. I. A. since the Vick sack…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 28, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Defense
Perhaps I’m just being cynical, but I was hoping for more considering the Bucs will likely be a 3-13/4-12 team this year
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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 29, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Secondary is a serious Red flag
for sure
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 29, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
Forgot to comment on Don Carey.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I hope Gene will strip his pink glasses about him. He is not even worth for the P squad….And he’ll make the 53 most likely…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Well
The D held them to 191 yards and only 9 1st downs (2/11 on 3rd down). There were at least 4 r 5 3&outs. That’s not too bad.
Room for improvement? Sure… but it’s not like we were being walked over. Penalties and our inability to score in the red zone made the Bucs look a lot better than they really were.
He also
Did a great job of staying home and shutting down an end-around. Pretty much every rookie, and some vets take themselves out of that play the first time it is run in a game.
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reggie nelson tackled the run well
but his coverage was awful and he missed wr williams twice
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And he will tackle most likely WRs and TEs....
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 29, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually think
Nelson has been fairly consistent at stopping the run. But like you said he struggles at being in the right position.
So to sum it all up...
….what exactly happened here? Because we looked at the stats and said we have offensive weapons, but we’d like to see more from the defense considering the Bucs are a 3 or 4 win caliber team. I’m not tryna rain on anybody’s parade, but let’s remember the Bucs were horrible on both offense AND defense last year. One off season isn’t gonna make them anything to judge your team by.
Bolen, Matthews, and Cutrera
If those three have not made a case for being on the 53, then I guess they were never considered in the first place, because I don’t think they could have done much better.
Out Greg – In Brock
Out Willamson – In John
Out ?(take your pick) – In Cutrera
I disagree with this entire article and almost all of the comments
Seriously…. I will try to not go on and on because I don’t want to sound like a troll with disagreeing with you on reality vs whatever you just made up here and unleash the throngs of “You don’t have to read my article or comments”…. but you people act like the offense looked horrible and the defensive line didn’t provide any pressure OR that we actually played all our starters again. NOPE on all accounts
It’s the GD Pre Season and it doesn’t mean a thing other than shaping the roster by testing the depth and learning the rookies in real speed. Why doesn’t anyone get that? David doesn’t make that one bad decision, he would have had a phenomenal night, the score would have been much different and the only down side to the entire evening would have been penalties keeping us from looking even better in true dominating fashion. And Garrard locks onto receivers? Did he do it to all 9 different guys he threw to in one half? What are you guys watching? Alualu was in on every freakin play he was on the field for. Chasing down tackles 15 yards down the field. The guy didn’t stop the whole time. Yes he took himself out of a few plays, but he also chased the play back down so he was at least on the screen when the guy went down. Name one DT in the whole league that does that. Tyson Alualu? Thanks, I got that one.
And if anyone actually thinks that John Matthews makes this roster you are HIGH as the freakin sky. The guy makes two catches in two games in the pre season on the exact same seam/post route and we’re saying he’s taking the spot of actual draft picks and guys we have invested in their development. Come on….
PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE….
Trolling concluded, carry on with your drivel.
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I was agreeing with you until
John Matthews. 2 catches? WTH have you been watching?
by Conservative on Aug 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
The stats:
John Matthews – 7 Rec, 75 Yds, 10.7 Yds/Rec, 30 Long, 2 TD
by Conservative on Aug 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Good call on the stats, and I get that argument
But all of his time and plays have come in garbage time against lesser competition and where he falls in the team’s plans is easily noticeable by when he plays and makes his plays. I’m not saying he is a garbage player, but he’s a fringe guy and who is he beating out right now?
We not keeping Osgood’s best Special Teams play in the league for him? Is he beating out the rookies from last year who have developed and are making plays against starters? I just don’t get the infatuation with a guy who flashes in the preseason against other guys who aren’t making rosters for the most part.
Here is my WR lineup, and not being confrontational, but help me see where he is going to fit in.
MSW, M Thomas, J Dillard, Underwood/Williamson (1 of the 2 will make it for sure, but I think Underwood has the edge), Osgood – Are we keeping 6 to keep Matthews as a depth WR when he has little to no ST value? I don’t see it.
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That's what I'm sayin
Is he beating out Jarret Dillard or Mike Thomas to make the team? That’s the role he would fill with his skill set.
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Actually i think hes beating out Underwood or TW
by rhettchrystal on Aug 29, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be interesting
But I think it takes away having a true deep threat / dynamic speed receiver. Can we afford to do that?
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And it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows...
I get that. The O Line looked out of synch a lot and sloppy with the penalties. Hmmmm… I wonder if they could have used their captain Brad Meester?
The Secondary is still the biggest concern of the team. Cox slipped on one play, so I can’t fault him there, but he hasn’t been very sharp at all on his man coverage all pre season. The Safety play? Horrible. Anthony Smith made some plays, but also missed a couple tackles and then talked trash after laying a hit…. 18 yards down the field. Congratulations on the hit… maybe not give up the first down next time.
Derrick Harvey continues to disappear for entire series only to flash later…
The D still needs consistency and play making, but until I see the entire starting unit on the field at one time, with an actual game plan in place, I will withhold judgment.
Again, it’s the preseason. If this were a regular season game, I would be thankful for the win and hope to God we got kinks worked out for a tougher opponent the next week. But since it’s not, I’m glad I got to watch Jag football and the guys I wanted to see flash flash.
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Right on...
I was going to create a whole new fanpost but you said a lot of what I wanted to say. I may be watching through teal colored glasses but considering how many holes this team needed filling at the end of last season, how can you not be stoked about this years possibilties? Through those afore mentioned glasses, I saw two really good defensive tackles who could clog up the middle for the next ten years. I saw a rookie safety who looks like he can really tackle, I saw outstanding special teams for the third straight week(how about Podleish’s performance so far), I saw a qb who had time to throw and did it really well, except for the interception, and I saw a team with more depth at a lot of positions, than a young team should have. One more point, I think both our lines will take control late in games because of their youth and conditioning, something you don’t see in a preseason game.
David's 1 mistake
That was a mistake David made alot last year (As I said, he led the NFL in red zone turnovers in 2009.)
Where did I say he was locking onto receivers besides the play to Greg Jones? It was clear he was going to Greg from the get go.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Never mind that the Jaguars put up a big 0-4 in the red zone. That was last year’s team’s Achilles heel and it’s noteworthy when it happens all over again.
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by Jonathan Loesche on Aug 29, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
0-4 in red zone due to penalties this game
How many times were penalties the issue last year? Come on man, it’s a different scenario all together. Yes it is frustrating when we see a lack of scoring, but it’s the preseason and a different game all together. Do we really think that the Offense is going to be riddled with penalties this year and passing the ball 50 times a game or do we think the regular season holds a different game plan and execution all together?
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we could just have someone accidently run into the ref and the ump every play until we start gein gsome calls other then o, i guessh i guess since your QB didnt ge tup for 5 minutes after being blindsided 10 seconds after the ball left, hmm i guess thats roughing kind of thikning or ef the sack and thven i know you were a 1/4 second off the sack and the OT tackled and laye don you thats not holding
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How many turnovers were fumbles and what was the turnover issue last year?
Fumbles caused by lack of protection and DG trying to hold on or make a play all on his own? How many fumbles have you seen him make in the preseason? I think we are missing the point when we say, Oh here we go with the turnovers again. Apples and Crab Apples. Similar, yet completely different in flavor.
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Just for frame of reference, generally when people say a quarterback locks onto a receiver, they don’t mean he has a favorite guy and continually throws to him. They mean he stares them down the duration of the play, like the interception to Ruud.
I got you
And I understand that as the reference, but I think you can’t say he locks onto his receiver all the time if he has found 9 different receivers in a half. They don’t rotate that much, even in the pre season, and to be able to find that many different guys, you are going through some sort of progression and not just staring down one guy. On the pick, he certainly looked to that side of the field where it was only Greg Jones. Granted, but did he see Ruud coming with all the pressure in his face? Did he think he could fit it in before he got there? Hard to say without asking him, but again it’s a set play in a goal line set with limited receiving options. You only have two guys on routes, where else are you going to look with that kind of pressure on you?
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and the other receiver
was 5-10 feet behind Greg Jones.
I was just a bad throw. There were 4 defenders covering 2 receivers in the same area of the field, he needs to throw that one away.
DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.
Fair enough
That’s one real criticism I have of David. He hates to throw that ball away.
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Its been one of his favorite checkdowns, to the FB coming out to the right. He did at Houston in OT in 07, to Freall d Taylor on the wheel route in 07 and in the PLayoffs to MJD for that 40 yard TD. However I believe it might be he is set in his reads now, even though what did work for him doesnt know. the chuck up pass about 15 yards and the WR jumps for it, he still doess that even though only Matt Jones was ever tall enough to do it. However I believe it might be Koetter basically tied his hands for this PS because either he was afraid Garrard would audible into some play they were saving or, I think he wants to see Garrard fail so he can plug in someone else as a pocket passer and try the horrid three and five step staight back and pass kind of passing game. We all know Garrard is generally a game manager QB and also streaky with his consnistency, but now as it seems DG era is ending we also need to look at koetter. why is he trying to do something different even though the old things did work, and he could of updated them? MJD cannot throw that is obvious, however we do have a TE who would work well in a singlewing QB spot…..we have a short and quick to the edge WR who work as a flanker….why has the “Wildcat” only been done a halfdozen times in the four years it was possible to do here sucessfully? I honestly believe Koetter after whining he had his hands tied is seeting up to be HC somehwere or even to supplant Del RIo by playing my O is good, see he didnt let me run it and thats why, blah blah balh……….but brunell was #1 95,96,97,98,99,00,01,02 Leftwhich 03,04,05,06 Garrard 07,08,09,10?
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It was the designed play though
It’s not a check down, it’s a play action to the Full Back coming out of the backfield. On a goal line set, you only have two or three receiving options and that was the #1 AND the side of the D the blitz was coming from. David thought he had the match up, didn’t account or see the LB or he just forced it in there where he thought he could get it. Either way, that was the play called.
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I keep telling myself it’s only pre season, but fact is it doesn’t look nice. Garrard will be Garrard, he’s not great but he will be able to do good things if our OL helps. But overall still feels like we are not still playoff caliber. Safety will be a big issue for us. We don’t have the right LB’s to blitz and put more pressure. Harvey looks the same old Harvey.
I hope i’m wrong, but it doesn’t feel like we will go somewhere this season, i think next one we will be pretty solid…Gene Smith is great and i have a lot of confidence in him.
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well - if you will recall - the montra / dogma of "it's only preseason"
was thrown all over the place in 2008. It IS possible to learn things about a team in preseaon.
I agree you can learn things about a team in the preseason
Like this team has phenomenal chemistry, like the D Line play already is exponentially better, like the passing game is starting to come around, like David Garrard is showing more vocal leadership, like the special teams is freaking dominant, like Tyson Alualu is everywhere on the field, like Aaron Kampman’s knee is coming along way ahead of what any of us thought ….
Aside from that, what do you want to see? Again, it’s preseason. Are the Colts really giving up 59 points a game during the regular season? Is rookie QB Sam Bradford and the worst team in the league St Louis Rams really going to light up a team like New England during the regular season?
When it’s regular season, we can have entirely different conversations, but not a single thing like outcome of games or game planning or scheming or play calling or any of that has any bearing whatsoever right now. We will not even see the true starting line up until week 1.
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I'm sorry to say but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw4HyiHdrp8
This kind of safety play we can only see on You tube now….
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