Jacksonville Jaguars Guard Competition
Jacksonville Jaguars offensive guard Kynan Forney was given the night off and has seemingly locked up his roster spot. Center Brad Meester played a series, and then went to the bench while back up center and starting guard Uche Nwaneri took reps at the center position.
Two players competing for seemingly one roster spot, Vince Manuwai and Justin Smiley, played a good portion of the football game.
In my opinion, one player played himself into a starting role and the other might have played himself off the roster.
Justin Smiley came out and played left guard once Nwaneri moved to the center position. Smiley struggled quite a bit in pass protection and specifically on a screen pass to back up running back Rashad Jennings. Smiley was out in front of Jennings and missed a block on the final defender. If Smiley picks up the block, it's likely Jennings takes the screen for a long touchdown reception.Quite a bit of the pressure on David Garrard also came from the left side, but it wasn't from tackle Eugene Monroe. Smiley looked rusty out there, and deservedly so considering all the time he's missed with injuries and the fact that this was only his second pre-season game with the Jaguars this year.
One player who didn't struggle however, was right guard Vince Manuwai. Manuwai didn't look like the 2007 version of the guard, who played at an All-Pro level, but he was good enough. Manuwai held up on the right side in pass protection, even picking up some defenders that Eben Britton struggled to control. The most noticeable play Manuwai was involved in was a running play, in which he drug back up fullback Brock Bolen a few yards down the field to insure a first down.
I've felt since the pads went on, Manuwai has played noticeably better than Forney or Smiley, but it seemed as if the coaching staff wanted to keep a fire under Vinny and have him earn his starting position. There has been a lot of talk that you cannot keep $3.5 million on the bench and Manuwai could be a salary casualty, but with his play last night, I feel like he shored up his starting position.
The big question now will be, if people were concerned Manuwai would be released if he didn't win the starting job... what happens to Justin Smiley? Smiley's current deal pays him $2.5 million this season and the Jaguars traded a conditional 7th round pick. If $3.5 million was too much to keep on the bench, I find it hard to believe $2.5 million and a draft pick don't fall under the same category.
If I were the Jaguars, I would eat the salary regardless and keep both. I explained this previously however, so I won't rehash it.
Simply put, I think Vince Manuwai won back the starting guard position last night and the starting offensive line should be what it was to start the game last night.
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i havnt seen
Any kind of stats on hits or hurries for the preseason, specifically the starters in the bucs game.
signatures are annoying. make a point.
by Michael Bassett on Aug 30, 2010 9:03 AM EDT reply actions
I Concur
Vince looked solid. If you kept both Smiley and Manuwai, would you also keep Forney?
Vae Victis!
Manuwai showed up
I was impressed. I didn’t think Vince would make the team but I think he earned his spot Saturday.
I thought "conditional" pick
meant if Smiley doesn’t make the team, we don’t give up the draft pick.
I had high hopes for Smiley
The guy, when he was healthy, was a good guard. He was an asset in the pass protection, and he was a decent enough run blocker. It’s a shame he can’t stay on the field. I thought Smiley might have gone a long way to solve, temporarily, the guard situation.
Guess we’ll keep our fingers crossed this year. I don’t trust Nwaneri for some reason. I’d have felt much more comfortable if Smiley could have won the LG spot. Too bad.
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
Simply put
Uche is the best interior linemen we have. Even before we got Smiley he was obviously the only person that had a starting spot locked up on the interior.
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I pray that Meester doesn’t go down, because Nwaneri has looked BAD at Center. He lunges and get’s beat. In Miami when he was at center, he lunged at the NT and the NT (Starke) blew right by him. I saw him do it again saturday while at C. He lunged at the DT who was head up the G and the DT stunted and got around him with ease. Let’s hope he stays at G and Estes or Newton can step their game up.
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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 30, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
And my thought is good so far with Newton listed as the backup C.
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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 30, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Newton did
play well these last couple of weeks. Meester I thought played better against Tampa. I think his issue isn’t the lunging. It’s that he’s a little slow getting into his stance in pass pro. He changed his technique a little from Miami to Tampa and I think that’s what led to the high snap. If he can be consistent snapping the ball with his new technique I would feel a little better. In fact, if he can get the mental part Meester my have to find a new job, especially with the good play from Newton.
Smiley's Gone, I Think
A 7th round pick isn’t too big a deal, but GM Gene isn’t giving it up unless Smiley made the choice for him by winning the job. At best he’s been even with the other guys – so why waste the pick?
I think they were praying for Vinnie to win the job all along. Lageman and other knowledgeable commentators have said that Manuwai’s upside is way above the other two. They just wanted an excuse to give more time to live up to it. He did that last night.
Yes I think Smiley ends up as Carey-of-this-year, a FA who when not injured is good or at least looks good but isn’t owrth it in the end. We must always remember the lost season of 2008 though, it can take one game for three to be lost, really four (but Collier is the greatest Jaguar tragedy for most likely he is the starter inside for what at least ten years?). I think they keep smiley the same reason they kept that 10 year G last year…….2008. but what happens if we see it happen at the Ts? or even worse WR? RB? (sorry i am just afraid of 2010 being lost and then next year being a lockout, it would drain Jagdom
Waber-Jaguar
i like the way smiley can pull block in the run game i thank thats something he does better then both manuwai and forney but hes not better than niether one and i agree 2008 was crazy but so was the fans thanking. we signed porter and florence and were talkin superbowl. this year gona be jaguars year. we all have to believe thank positive and positive will happen. dont no what to do bout the qb tho

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