Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Tiger Woods Makes His 2012 PGA Tour Debut

Jacksonville Jaguars Training Camp 2010: with the Atlanta Falcons

I wasn't able to attend the Jacksonville Jaguars practices in Flowery Branch with the Atlanta Falcons, but my good friend Charlie Bernstein of Jagnation.com and FOX Sports was. He was kind enough to give us a Good, Bad, and Ugly from today.

The Jaguars picked up their belongings and hit the road as they held their first of four practices with former Jaguars defensive coordinator Mike Smith’s Atlanta Falcons.  After lengthy stretching and individual and positional drills, the Jaguars and Falcons got together for some teamwork.

Star-divide

The Good

The Jaguars defensive line practiced well, despite being without rookies Tyson Alualu and Austen Lane.  Rookie defensive end Larry Hart, third-year pro Derrick Harvey and veteran Aaron Kampman each proved to be too much for the Falcons offensive tackles during individual drills as their speed and explosion allowed them to get the edge rather easily. 

Mike Thomas continues to push for a starting job at wide receiver as the ultra-quick, ultra-productive former Arizona Wildcat continues to find a way to get open and catch everything thrown his way.  Thomas was the Jaguars most targeted wideout as he routinely beat his Falcons defenders (note:  projected starting corners Dunta Robinson and Brian Williams did not practice).

The Bad

The Jaguars offensive line channeled their inner Ephraim Salaam as projected backups Paul McQuistan and Kevin Haslam couldn’t handle the Falcons starting defensive ends.  Atlanta’s defensive line made life difficult on the entire Jaguars offense in passing drills, as they took advantage of the absence of starters Eugene Monroe and Eben Britton.

The Jaguars quarterback situation is becoming worrisome as neither David Garrard nor Luke McCown have looked anything close to mediocre.  The lack of the full compliment on the offensive line had something to do with the poor play, but both quarterbacks looked hesitant and were inaccurate throwing down the football field. 

The Ugly

Aggressiveness is a good thing in the game of football, it always has been.  This is a game of human confrontation.  Unfortunately, things got out of hand on a few occasions as the Jaguars were involved in a pair of skirmishes during their first practice session.  This drew the ire of head coach Jack Del Rio--

"I told our guys right away that’s not what we’re interested in," Jack Del Rio said following the practice.  "You’re not going to show me that you’re tough by doing stuff like that.  We want our guys to come in here and practice hard and be competitive, but we really are in a combined practice atmosphere."

It was difficult to tell who started the ruckus but sources say that safety Reggie Nelson and defensive end Larry Hart were involved. 

Comment 60 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Thanks for the update

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Gamertag: xXTealNinjaXx

by TheTealDeal on Aug 9, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Just throw the damn ball!!!!!!!!!!

Its practice!!!!!!!!!

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike & Mike

Mike Thomas will be starting opposite MSW. Conversation closed.

by Fivus Viener on Aug 9, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree %100...

after last years performance and this year in camp, who else would start ahead of Thomas? He’s a legitimate playmaker waiting to happen. On another note, I take it from today’s “Ask Vic”, that his big news announcement is directly related to ticket sales and is soon in coming.

by Jaggernaut on Aug 9, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I have a good idea of what the news will be

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Gamertag: xXTealNinjaXx

by TheTealDeal on Aug 10, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

does you idea

have the initials TT?

by Slawsc on Aug 10, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hell?

Hades? Sheol? Fiery Lake? Indiana?

WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?

by BIBBEE on Aug 10, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thomas is my favorite WR

I really believe in this guy and think he’ll be awesome

by OGN on Aug 9, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would Briton and Monroe not be playing......

are we afraid to see if they actually are ready for the season against a non-Jag opponent. If there is not a good reason why they are not playing, and if i were the coach, and there was questions about my QB corps, I would take away any excuse, and see what the QB’s could do. It’s simple, if they can’t play behind the starting o-line, then we have a problem. If its that the second team tackles can’t handle Atlanta’s starting ends, then that is a whole different problem. Lets get the real answer. I kind of would have thought that training against another team would present opportunities to explore these types of questions.

It would also be interesting to see how the ATL QB’s did today in comparison to our group. Thank you for the update though.

by GAJAGFAN on Aug 9, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

You do realize Monroe and Britton are dinges up, right?

From what I was told Ryan looked really good and had 1-int by Keiaho.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 9, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks Alfie....

I did not know they are dinged up. I must have missed that, and it explains why they are not playing. I hate that we may have to wait until this Friday to see how things are gonna be, if they can even play then. I guess this is what the preseason is for.
Thanks for the ATL QB update too. Helps put things in perspective. I mean if Harvey and Kampman are winning battles, Ryan is under as much pressure as Garrard and our guys, then if we are not getting it done, either our QB’s are having trouble, or the d-backs for the Falcons are much better than ours, or both! Very interesting stuff.

by GAJAGFAN on Aug 9, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if they're still dinged Friday,

they’ll sit out that game, too.
it’d be nice to have the entire first team playing so we fans can get satisfaction (hopefully) from how they do, but it’s far more important to head into the first regular-season game with a complete, healthy roster.

by unhipcat on Aug 9, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the article mentioned

That Harvey and Kampman were beating their guys in one-on-one drills. I would assume they were not getting as much pressure in full 11 on 11 drills, given the nature of combined line play.

by TheAreopagite on Aug 11, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

mahne we talking bout practice mahne

practice!!!

And all those who look down on me I'm tearing down your balcony

by Surteal on Aug 9, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

AI? Is that you?

I'll be your dog, just don't treat me like one....

by JagsCub on Aug 9, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

mahn its practice mahne

And all those who look down on me I'm tearing down your balcony

by Surteal on Aug 9, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Vic....

Garrard was 4 of 6 in skeleton drills. In 11 on 11 he was 3 of 5.

McCown was 3 of 4 in skeleton drills. In 11 on 11 he was 1 of 4.

I’m just cruious as to what Charlie means by “less than mediocre”? I know numbers don’t tell the whole story, so what gives in relation to Garrard? I’ll give ya McCown.

I'll be your dog, just don't treat me like one....

by JagsCub on Aug 9, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

*"have looked anything close to mediocre"

I'll be your dog, just don't treat me like one....

by JagsCub on Aug 9, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I was told, and not just by Charlie, it was check down city.

A lot like all last week.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 9, 2010 4:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So how does Thomas fit in?

Multiple people have said that Thomas made a big impact, making several good catches from Garrard. Since Garrard completed 7 passes and Thomas had 3 or 4 good catches…. where does the checkdown stuff come in?

I’m confused.

by KeithG on Aug 10, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously?!

dude your getting really annoying…why cant a man have an opinion without getting harassed! positivity has to be put in perspective….alfie reports what his eyes see, do you really want him to report what he WISHES HE SAW…..the sad thing is you probably do. if you truly cant stand him or this website then dont read it. why dont you start your own blog “by the fans for the fans” you can do live reports of training camp from your living room telling everyone how great garrard is.

by leon k on Aug 9, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yo, eves man...

You said it… it’s a fan site… talk football please.

by The Rickness on Aug 9, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

shuttle

does anyone know if the new shuttle is the big exciting news we’ve been waiting for?

by leon k on Aug 9, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

probably

Waber-Jaguar

by jawsaints on Aug 9, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell no..

how does that sell tickets?

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

was wondering the same thing….thanks!! you got me pumped up again…..does anybody theories?

by leon k on Aug 9, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

ticket sales

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Gamertag: xXTealNinjaXx

by TheTealDeal on Aug 10, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

So ticket sales

are going to be the news that boosts ticket sales ?

by pksiv on Aug 10, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn

honestly a little bit of a let down…but i hope it drives up tickets sales.

by leon k on Aug 9, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL.........that isnt the news........

Vic aint dumb enough to hype that up

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe

if you open up an account there you get that discount

by leon k on Aug 9, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many emplyees they have?

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

*employees

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

My company"s been doing that for 2 years, so i doubt it

by Alfie Crow on Aug 9, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I'm right back where I started then lol

frankDUBZ aka Frank Silba

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Aug 9, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I herd a rumor

Corporation paid the bill and bought up the rest

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Gamertag: xXTealNinjaXx

by TheTealDeal on Aug 10, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That rumor is on here too

but that would be a terrible idea. It would relieve the fans of Jacksonville from the accountability to purchase tickets.

by pksiv on Aug 10, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to raise up this

http://www.jaguars.com/multimedia/?3681

Well Vic saw it seems a little differently the practice then Charlie.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 9, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

That’s a pretty stark contrast in points of view.

by pksiv on Aug 9, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why

I was thought it is something we can talk about (I mean espcially the Harvey part )

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 9, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean here is 2 really different
The Good
The Jaguars defensive line practiced well, despite being without rookies Tyson Alualu and Austen Lane. Rookie defensive end Larry Hart, third-year pro Derrick Harvey and veteran Aaron Kampman each proved to be too much for the Falcons offensive tackles during individual drills as their speed and explosion allowed them to get the edge rather easily.

And then Vic (who try to avoid saying something negative about Jaguars players, espcially at TC) said :

“One BIG dissapointement was for me Derrick Harvey”
(at 2:33)

So they saw 2 different practice?
By the way I not raised this; to bash anyone credibility; I just want to see clear. I think Derrick has a reaaaaaaly good camp so far; that’s why Vic’s comment hit me as a big surprise.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 9, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I left agrument from the 1 line - sorry

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 9, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Vic's comments were from Tuesday practices

I think they are referencing two different days.

WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?

by BIBBEE on Aug 10, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No; that video is made on Monday!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 10, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is I mean was- Stupid me!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

Follow me on twitter @iktriad

by Zoltan from Budapest on Aug 10, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haslam

After speaking with players about the scrimmage, Haslam only played on the second line and did not go up against the starting DE. all accounts are that Haslam had a good scrimmage. You must have him Mixed up with someone else if you saw it on the first line.

by keithj on Aug 9, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't understand.

How could Garrard be less than mediocre if Mike Thomas was the star of the morning … who was throwing all those balls that Thomas was catching? And if all David completed were check-downs, how did Thomas look so good catching those easy balls?

by ruffdaddy on Aug 9, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Aaah

I didn’t see your comment before making the same query up above.

Training camp reports are great for us fans… and confusing as hell at the same time. I guess people just have different opinions on what they are seeing. Happens in the season too.

by KeithG on Aug 10, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Big Cat Country:: Jacksonville Jaguars news, commentary, speculation and fun, all from a fan's perspective

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Part951291066706727_small
Info on Coples...

Recent FanPosts

316188_10100604014127692_5111476_59179124_1366496501_n_small
Think we can get him? Routt is out in OAK:
Jaguars_gift_1_small
Khan's yacht a symbol?
Aa_me_small
Wide Receivers in Free Agency...Who do the Jags Go After?
Images_small
SB Nation 2012 Mock Draft
Small
Two round Jags mock draft.
Small
Blaine Gabbert Big On Talent Short On Weapons and Mechanics
Small
34 NFL Teams
Images_small
4 under the radar free agents
Small
If things go right our first pick is?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Manager

77312417837578290_small River City Rage

180103_10150110239888826_529758825_6295646_8155374_n_small Adam Stites

Screen_shot_2011-10-06_at_11 Alfie Crow

Editor-in-Chief

Img_6121_small silencecs

Contributor

316188_10100604014127692_5111476_59179124_1366496501_n_small T.Holmes

Shane_clemons_small Shane Clemons

Small Michael Appelbaum

P9260123_small Jagfan89

Tvh5hc55tg_154738946_small arawls

Cole_small theeCodyTaylor