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Jaguars: The Case against Greg Jones

Come Saturday, the Jacksonville Jaguars have a big decision to make.

Are they going to keep fullback Greg Jones?

Here, I make the case to cut ties with Greg Jones.

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Greg Jones has been a stable of the Jaguars rushing attack for quite a while. Jones however, is making $3 million in 2010 to play a position that's being phased out of today's NFL. While Jones is a vital asset in the running game, the Jaguars are clearly making the shift to be passing and rushing the football out of a single back set.

The emergence of players like Zach Miller, who can play the role of H-back and flex tight end, players who play the traditional fullback role like Jones are becoming ancient in the NFL.

Not only do players like Zach Miller make someone like Jones expendable, but younger players such as Montell Owens and Brock Bolen, who have shown an ability to make plays with the ball in their hand are enticing. Both are younger, have less of an injury history than Jones, and also are much, much cheaper.

Brock Bolen, while eligible for the practice squad, put on a show Saturday night in Tampa Bay. He showed versatility rushing with the football and catching it out of the backfield. He also showed an ability to pick up blocks in the passing game, which is vital for a back on passing downs.

Jones has been an excellent fullback for the Jaguars, but unfortunately for Jones his position is going by the wayside. Jones could have been valuable as a LeRon McClain type back, but he has suffered too many injuries to his knees limiting his "wiggle" with the football. Simply put, $3 million is too much to play for a one-dimensional player in an evolving offense.

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by floridafalcons#63 on Sep 1, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

The question is how often are the Jags going to ask their fullbacks to rush or catch the ball?

Anything Bolen or Owens can do, MJD and Jennings can do equally as well or better. Is it worth giving up a great blocker in order to get more offense out of a position that the runningbacks can do anyway?

You can't reason with unreasonable people.

by JagsAlex87 on Sep 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Or the TEs too for that matter

You make a compelling argument Alfie, great article. Greg Jones is still an organization favorite and unless they thought they could get the blocking aspect from one of the guys you mentioned too, I think he stays. UNLESS Gene can get what he thinks is great value in a trade, then all bets would be off, but I still think it would take a lot more than we would get in a trade right now. Wayne Weaver mentions him by name, JDR loves him and I don’t think Gene is ready to give up on him. Just a hunch though.

WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?

by BIBBEE on Sep 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

After reading the story on jaguars.com

about Zach Potter, it makes me think that despite the improved receiving corps and the way the NFL is headed, the Jaguars still intend to be a running team.

I know that Potter might not make the team, but the fact that they actually brought in a pure blocking TE tells you something about the way their thinking.

Maybe they’ll keep Greg around until they draft that superstar QB next year and can actually throw the ball with the rest of the league. :-)

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

I think we

are underestimating how good he could possibly be as a receiver. Because frankly, I’ve seen better blockers. That’s not a knock on him as much as I think it says about his possible versatility.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 2, 2010 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

as much as

i don’t want to see him go, i would be happy if we could do a player for player deal like gene i think mentioned a little while ago and get a starting caliber safety for him.

by dan073eb on Sep 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

While I agree

if the reason we’re getting rid of him is because since the league is going more pass-oriented and the blocking FB is not longer necessary, why would anyone trade for him ?

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

the P word

Every coach thinks they can make someone better, that’s why they’re coaches. All they have to do is pop in that youtube video of the stiff arm while at FSU and see that he’s got the skills, but can’t stay out of the trainer’s room. In many ways, I think Greg Jones was supposed to fill the role currently occupied by MJD but could not stay healthy.

by Joe Fisher on Sep 1, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, the P word is potential. For Greg Jones, it could be “Probable”.

Thing is though (sorry I hit post too early) I can make a case that if the Jags felt Greg was on the bubble to get cut, they should have tried to shop him before the draft.

by Joe Fisher on Sep 1, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a couple things!

This site is great and I’m excited to be apart of what’s going on here. I’ve been reading all summer but just now getting around to posting. This site has been my savior since moving from Jax to ATL!

I’m with pksiv on Gregg Jones. He been great to us when on the field but I have no problems with cutting ties with him either. GENE MUST MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITH him hi IN RETURN.

by thegoodz on Sep 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Where in ATL ?

New local hangout this year http://engine11atl.com/ on North Avenue in Midtown.

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

also

and I’m not involved with this site but – http://www.atl-jags.com/

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm up in Marietta area

Engine 11 looks pretty sweet. Thanks for the tip. Might be a drive for drinking and a game. But I will probably check it out.

by thegoodz on Sep 1, 2010 11:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah. Last year they

were up on Rosewell just outside 285 so I stayed local. It’s less than a mile to Engine 11 so I’m going to try and walk down there a few times.

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

er

Roswell.

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Final preseason game

Will jones be playing? I’m sure Bolen and Montell Owens will be…
Should I be watching those guys closely at the game tommorrow night, or does JDR already know which guys will be here come Sept. 12?
I mean, obviously Owens is a lock, but could a strong showing get Bolen a 53man spot, and end Jones’ Jaguar tenure?

by JPQ! on Sep 1, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

JDR won't know

until Gene Smith tells him. Gene has complete control over personnel matters.

DG is the best we have and help is not on the way. I realize he's not perfect, but I feel a lot better about him at QB than I do the O-Line, DB's and LB's ability to cover a TE.

by pksiv on Sep 1, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may already know though

I’m assuming they’ve talked about it. JDR doesn’t have the final say anymore, but I’m sure most all moves are discussed.

by Ewdtrey on Sep 2, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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