Jags mock 2.0
by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2011 2:06 AM EST
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Round 1: Mike Pouncey C/G
Round 2: Andy Dalton QB
Round 3: Casey Matthews LB
Round 4: Mark LeGree FS
Round 4: Kendric Burney CB(from Oakland; Quentin Groves)
Round 5: Curtis Marsh CB
Round 6: Jermale Hines FS(from Cincinnati;Reggie Nelson, I'm assuming were getting a 6th)
Round 6: Chris Culliver CB
Round 7: Mario Harvey MLB(from Green Bay; Anthony Smith)
Analysis:
Mike Pouncey - Meester's replacement, he's a big guy, can play guard or center, were building for the future. He should rotate with Meester and Manuwai at RG in the 2011 season, and Meester should retire in 2012.
Andy Dalton - Franchise QB, now you have your franchise QB, along with your franchise Center. He'll sit and develop a year or two, behind Garrard.
Casey Matthews - In my opinion, he's as good as his brother, he can be our future at OLB, I think he should rotate in with Daryl, and our other OLB, whoever that may be. He is good at everything, he can cover, rush, stuff, hes great.(Dalton and Matthews picks can subject to flip)
Mark LeGree - He's one of the better small-school prospects, and Gene likes small school prospects...future at Free-safety, but I'm expecting Gene to sign a free-agent, I don't want to see a rookie back there, against Kenny, Reggie, or Andre.
Kendric Burney - He's got great speed, but bad size, hes 5'8" and 180 lbs, very small, he's going to have to hit the weights, and build him self up to atleast 188. Due to his size, he's not good at pressing, but his speed makes up for it, good tackler, good instincts, was suspended, nothing really bad though.
Curtis Marsh - Tough, good against run, good height, long arms, good speed, quick, team player, but needs to develop, and be polished a little.
Jermale Hines - He's a good run-stopper, but no very quick to cover side-line to side-line, used for specifc downs, like run downs, to come up and support against the run, and special-teams.
Chris Culliver - Corner/Free Safety, good speed, great athelete, needs to develop proper corner skills though, also good returner.
Mario Harvey - Late round, small school player, great strength, slow, and short(5'11" 1/2), good rotational backer, to come in for specific situations.
I'm expecting a Free-agent FS and CB to come in. 3 corners, 2 FS, 2 LBs, 1 QB, and 1 C/G, a draft that should solidify our team for 2012 super bowl run.
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Not bad, i like those players ..but if we did that
we would have to do something in free agency as well, i like pouncey, i like dalton, and i like matthews every since i first seen him. Hes got brother written all over him. If we had those first 3 picks, and we picked up Nnamdi somehow, i would be the most happy.
I find it hard to believe Matthews lasts into the third
I also have a gut eeling Gene does not use pick 16 on an interior OL. Other than that, i know little about the guys post round 3 so I cannot say much
Is Pouncey really worth a 1st?
I just can’t get all those bad snaps out of my head from this year
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
agreed
pouncey was horrible this year..he will be ok in the league if he plays guard. the guy cant read a D, snap the ball, and move all at one time. he is certainly not his brother. does seem like he has the gray matter for C. i like the kid from penn state at center. we could certainly get him later in the draft. maybe rd 3. oh and i think we will be taking another DE somewhere up there.
by chrisltr22c on Jan 17, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Why not draft a pro ready
prospect. Pouncey is pro ready at guard, not a center. I don’t think Gene will draft a guard in the first when he just paid Uche 25 mil and Vinny had a resurgent year.
agreed..
id like to see us take another tackle, not a G. it doesnt have to be in the first. i just dont see our backups getting the job done. although i do think vierling and estes could develop into good C’s. just got to hope the meester can hold on one more year. that kid at ohio state is a monster, and is staying his last year. he would be a hell of 1st next year.
Pouncey is an awful center
Gene just might pick up a RT in the first, but highly doubt he drafts a guard.
And Rhett, whenever you mock a linemen to the Jaguars in the first you talk about them rotating with Vinny and/or Meester. OL do not rotate, good lines take time gel and you can’t gel if you’re rotating.
Seems like you have a big problem
with Rookies starting.
RT..
the kid tyron smith from usc is a monster! i could see him going in the 1st or early 2nd. the only way i see this happening is if they decided to replace meester. then you would have.
LT-MONROE
LG-EBEN if he isnt still hurt
C-UCHE
RG-VINNY
RT-SMITH
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/11/29/1844658/tyron-smith-nfl-draft-scouting-report
by chrisltr22c on Jan 17, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Gene Smith
isn’t going to be drafting a RS Sophmore. He’s also projects better as an LT and has only played 2 years.
well he can be projected as an LT, but he has only plaed RT in college. so if thats the case you get a young huge guy that can play RT and play projected LT if need be. we got shit to back up our tackles right now. i dont think gene will give a hoot if the guy can play. he hasnt been in trouble and was already one of the leaders of that usc team.
So you want a back up in the first?
The kid’s 280 right now, 5 less than when he came out of college. He doesn’t have the frame for a LT certainly not a RT. Pro ready prospects in the first, something he and Aldon Smith, another RS Sophomore, are not.
your right.
he doesnt have the frame for a RT spot..he just played and dominated his competition at a major football institution. i also did not say draft him as a back up. i said if eben cant go cause of his injury. then you better find a RT quick. cause jordan black isnt the answer. i wasx simply saying id rather have smith than pouncey in the first round. i dont think we should be taking OL in the first this year though. guess you didnt read all the way down the post’s. my comments about smith were read out of context.
he'll get experience
at both, and by rotate in i mean, not in the middle of drives, our first 2 drives manuwai is in, then the third drive we put Pouncey in.
by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
its not gonna happen. they are not gonnna sub guys on the Oline..id rather see meester stay one more year, and get one of our C’s we have now another year to prepare. if we take an OL in the first round..id rather he be a guy that can come right in and play the whole time..ala TYRON SMITH he is big and fast. a true RT. eben can move to G so uche can play C if need be.or we need to draft a T/G combo guy later in the draft. thats if eben’s shoulder is ok.
by chrisltr22c on Jan 17, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I really like the idea of getting Pouncey.
The reason is that it allows us to not just be compete next year but would allow us to have a young talented O-line. Monroe, Pouncey, Meester , Uche, Eben for year one. I think Eben is a good RT, he may not be athletic enough to handle Robert Mathis all of the time but he is a good RT.
I think that Pouncey maybe the BAP at the time, and I am a fan of picking players that are sure hits than swinging for a Matt Jones.
I want to see how good the QBs are at the combine before I make a judgment but I think that taking one in the second round is a good choice unless we think they that their guy will be gone. I would like to add more picks so if we could trade back to 20 or so to make pouncey fit it would be good. I don’t know if the plan will be to target the secondary late in the draft or in FA but that is our biggest concern.
im down with pouncey, but
he isnt goona be able to come in and play center. i think right now, his stock is set more off what his brother has done. with that said, there is a reason his bro came out and he didnt. he wanted to be a center to get paid. he didnt excel at the college level, and really struggled all year. he is most likely gonna be gone by the time we pick. i like the kid from penn state better, and he might be a 2nd round guy. if by chance we got pouncey. he would not be starting either at C or G i hope right away. which brings up another problem..you take a guy in the 1st that can come in and play right away..only scenario’s that make that possible..meester doenst perform and uche slides over. then you need that G. i just dont see meester not making it back this year. i can see another scenario where we go G and not a guy that is more of a tackle then guard.
You seem to just be flopping Matthews and Dalton around
In all likelihood, the Jaguars will have to choose between the two; they probably won’t be getting both. Also, that’s a hell of a lot of secondary players and no DE, which I fully expect to be addressed, and no WR, which we will likely grab someone at as well.
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I want Matthews badly
screw QB, we have podlesh don’t we?
by rhettchrystal on Jan 17, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
I like Matthews, but getting a QB is more important honestly. The QB talent falls off after the Dalton/Ponder/Devlin bunch.
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by CaliforniaJag on Jan 19, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
i can see Dalton in second
heck with gene he may trade back to 32, pick up a third or late second, and with the 32 get Dalton, a big reach in everyone’s eyes, but Gene would want to secure his guy, and a lot of people have him rated higher then Locker, and Ponder.
by rhettchrystal on Jan 19, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly think he'd be more likely to get Ponder than Dalton
I personally like Ponder more as well
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by CaliforniaJag on Jan 19, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think this a very Gene-esque draft
I don’t like Pouncey though. Dalton in the 2nd sounds pretty Gene and I get the sense that he goes for speed positions (secondary, WR, RB) in later rounds. I’ll have to look into those secondary guys…
by Brian Levenson on Jan 18, 2011 12:52 AM EST reply actions
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