POLL: Should the Jaguars be interested in Broncos WR Brandon Lloyd?
by Alfie Crow on Oct 14, 2011 7:12 AM EDT
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The Denver Broncos have been in talks that could see wide receiver Brandon Lloyd traded before the NFL trade deadline, Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports.
With the NFL trade deadline looming, the Broncos have been in talks with other teams regarding Pro Bowl receiver Brandon Lloyd, according to three NFL sources.
The Broncos are believed to be seeking anywhere from a third to fifth round draft pick in return. There have been "three or four" teams who have expressed interest in Lloyd, according to a source, with Carolina and Tennessee believed to be among them.
Given what Lloyd would cost, should the Jacksonville Jaguars be interested? The Jaguars currently rank dead last in the NFL with 150 passing yards per game. Lloyd, who has 283 receiving yards in just four games, would currently lead the Jaguars in receiving yards. Lloyd would come on the cheap, contract wise, accounting for only $1.395 million, but he is a free agent at the end of the 2011 season.
Should the Jaguars make a move to help the receiver position?
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But they will not be.
Stay the course, Gene! Damn the torp…. uhhh….lifeboats.
"Filling a need doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting a good player," said Schwartz. "It doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that best fits; it doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re getting a player that’s better than what you have already."
Giving up a draft pick, even a 7th rounder, for a guy to play less than three quarters of a season would be INSANE!
The only way this works is if Lloyd is willing to sign a reasonable 3-4 year contract as a condition of the trade….
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Of course we need him ASAP! And sign him to a contract ASAP…..It’ll be disappointing not to get him after every one has been begging for a WR…..Gabbert needs him badly!
by orecic76 on Oct 14, 2011 8:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Any team that trades for him very likely does it contingent of a new deal for Lloyd.
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They can pick up Lloyd, and then franchise him next year, and they would still be paying less then if they tried to pick him up in free agency
by youngnixx88788 on Oct 14, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
No way in hell I'd franchise Lloyd
Pay him the average of the top guys? No way.
I’d give Denver a 4th for Lloyd. Or seeing the way Denver is going, I might be inclined to trade Zack Potter and a 6th.
Once you publicly put a guy on the market, it’s like reducing a house $20K. Buyer is going to try to take you below that. All depends how bad you want to get out of the house.
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Yep, with you all the way. Not sure if he’s worth a 4th though….
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by Gabbert2Shorts on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If it comes down to it and he produces as he did last year for at least 2 more years, I'll take track record over potential any day of the week.
I said it this offseason than we’re quickly going to get to a point where we’re cutting 4th rounders who’ve been drafted in the past 3-4 years. They are those proverbial jars on the shelf.
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If he does come cheap
it would be a great pickup for the remainder of the year. But, the Jags have had bad luck with FA wide receivers and he’s 30 years old.
I'd rather be golfing.
A 3rd and a 5th is not that bad for a WR like Lloyd. I'd be more comfortable giving up a 3rd and 6th
My fault, I meant a 3rd this year and a 5th next year.
The Jags should either give up a 3rd. Or a 5th this year and 6th next year.
by youngnixx88788 on Oct 14, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
he's not worth that.
at the most, if it took a player, I’d give a 3rd string TE and a 6th
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Absolutely
In my opinion gene needs this, our o scares no one. U put him next to mike thomas and suddenly our wr aren’t so pathetic. Definitely need to sign him for a few years if u make the deal tho.
by caneman4 on Oct 14, 2011 8:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ahh wrong guy.
but alfie already corrected it. thanks alfie!
by ScottyD4Life on Oct 14, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Should the Jags be "in play?"
Yes, but on the low end. 5th rounder and a reasonable contract going forward. Unfortunately, with our schedule, it seems we will be picking pretty high, so our 3rd rounder might be more like a low 2nd rounder.
Which, could help us in the negotiations
by ScottyD4Life on Oct 14, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
different line of reasoning
my thought is that it may hurt us, because we will not (or should not) offer our 3rd, because we might pick up one of our guys that slipped out of the 2nd. But, someone else might end up offering their lower 3rd. We’ll see…I think we end up being outbid.
I understand. But ultimately,
I do not see the Jags getting Lloyd. It’s too atypical for them.
by ScottyD4Life on Oct 14, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
atypical? How?
Lloyd is not a bad character, and his price tag is not high. Sounds Gene Smith like to me
by youngnixx88788 on Oct 14, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Not so much not being a Gene guy (b/c he is)
but trading picks for veterans
by ScottyD4Life on Oct 14, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Keep in mind
Lloyd is not your average “good reciever” He was the leaugue leader in yardage last year! This is a close as you’re gonna get to potentialy getting a #1 reciever without paying a huge price tag for him. It just makes too much sense.
by youngnixx88788 on Oct 14, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I am absolutely on board with you!
And if absolutely necessary, I would give up a 3rd rounder for him. I just have serious doubts the Jags brass wont do it
by ScottyD4Life on Oct 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
If you are a WR named Brandon
then you have no shot of retiring as a Bronco.
by JagSoldier on Oct 14, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Can't do it
We owe it to Tebow
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 14, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions
I would love it
But it won’t happen
If the Jaguars beat the Steelers I will record my self singing "Living La Vida Loca"
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by tiquanunderwear on Oct 14, 2011 9:15 AM EDT reply actions
Remeber the cirus catches Lloyd was making the last time we played the Broncs?
HE GOOD…Sign him…… He’s no C.Johnson, A.JOhnson, but an Upgrade all day..
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Let's think this through...
He’s 30 years old right now and this season the team is not likely to compete for a playoff spot.
That means that he’ll be 31 before he’s even really important for us to have him. Add to that that we’d be expected to pay this 31 year old player like he’s a top receiver in the NFL, even though he’s only had one thousand yard season in his career, and his next best season he only had 733 yards (less than Mike Thomas).
So essentially, if we made this deal, we’d be offering a 3rd-5th round pick for the right to overpay for him as a restricted free agent rather than a free agent…
The Jets did a very similar deal for Santonio Holmes, except for a 7th round pick. And Holmes was 26 (or 27, I forget which) at the time he was traded.
All around, it’s just not worth it.
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by Brian Levenson on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
if we had average to above average receivers it would be pointless
but when you have a young quarterback who has no open targets because our wide receivers are bad, you have to get him targets. Yes, a guy in the first or second next year will help, but you need three reliable WRs on your team and right now we only have one.
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by Gabbert2Shorts on Oct 14, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, the Jets traded a 5th round pick for Santonio Holmes and just paid him massive money.
Lloyd is not going to get massive money. Homes is a much bigger risk, because if he screws up he’s suspended for an entire season.
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Homes! Ha!
Alfie getting all street up in here!
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I just don't see a very good player here.
When watching the Broncos, I have never really thought of Lloyd as a playmaker. His career stats support that observation. Out of an eight year career, he’s only caught more than 40 balls in three seasons. And many of those seasons were spent in the pass-happy AFC, so that stat should be higher. Less than 40 balls a season averages to barely two catches a game. So he had a big year last year. I suggest caution on freak stat years like that. Ex-Jaguar Reggie Williams had an odd statistical season where he caught a bunch of touchdowns. But we wouldn’t want him back on the team. It seems to me that Lloyd had one of those weird stat years last year, and in general, is just another Jason Hill type. Nothing fancy, just a body. Not a playmaker. This trade is a dud and we shouldn’t do it.
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Not only did he have 11 TDs
But he also led the league in yards, on 77 catches. That’s more impressive than Reggie Williams’ fluke season. Lloyd also had utter dreck throwing the ball to him his whole career. When Kyle Orton is the best QB you’ve played with…
I wouldn’t hesitate to throw a late-round pick on Lloyd.
The 1.4 isn't the problem
The problem is that he’d have to be given a new contract after this year. The Jags have more important positions they need to spend money on. Like a D-Line and a QB.
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