Rams release WR Mike Sims-Walker, should the Jaguars bring him back?
by Adam Stites on Oct 17, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintIt appears the Rams are set to release WR Mike Sims-Walker after an extremely disappointing stint with the Rams. In five games with St. Louis, MSW had a game in which he dropped four balls before halftime and was even ruled inactive in week six despite being completely healthy.
The Rams are now looking to newly acquired Brandon Lloyd, who they reportedly traded for this morning, to give Sam Bradford the threat they thought Sims-Walker could be. Meanwhile, MSW is without work less than three months after signing a one year, $3.7 million contract.
There was plenty of speculation as to why the Jaguars chose not to re-sign Sims-Walker who accumulated 14 touchdowns and 1431 yards receiving in 2009 and 2010 combined. Many felt as though it was due to the money he would demand on a new contract, while others felt the team just decided to move in a different direction.
Now the Jaguars should be looking for any direction except the one they're currently going at receiver. Their receiving corps struggle to get open and have been a weak spot, if not the weakest spot, on the roster. The opportunity to upgrade the position is something Gene Smith almost surely has to be on the lookout for and the possibility of bringing back a player that has had success in Jacksonville in the past could be the right move.
A similar move was made in 2009 when the Jaguars re-signed Ernest WIlford after he was released by the Dolphins, following a disappointing and short stint.
Re-signing Sims-Walker would be a cheap move that would allow a player that is familiar with the way things work in Jacksonville to provide a patch for a team that desperately needs to inject some life into its offense.
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What woudl the Jaguars....
financial responsibility be concerning his Ram’s contract? I voted yes on the terms that they a get him cheep and he agrees to run complete routes! Before I signed him, I would make him run routes in full pads with coverage and have Gabbert throw at him!
He isn't going to improve our WR core.
But Llyod would have. This organization has no idea what it is doing. It has tried to rebuild on the fly and has failed miserably.
To those that voted yes
Are you really that satisfied with mediocrity? He had one decent year here with the 1400+ yards, but he was an average receiver.
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
To those that voted no, are you really that satisfied with mediocrity with the current crop?
They’re not going to, and I won’t say they should… but they need to attempt something. Resting on their WR laurels won’t make anything better.
Now that I agree on...
But I will say this: is therr even an upgrade available? Like I can’t think of one name on the market that would convincingly be an upgrade from what we have… It’s easy to say “do something”, but realistically what’s out there? Any names to drop that you believe in Alfie?
Travis D. Holmes
by T.Holmes on Oct 17, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So you're mainly thinkin the trade route then
I mean we know they’re scrounging the practice squads (with the chastin west attempt)…just doesnt seem to be much out there….
Travis D. Holmes
by T.Holmes on Oct 17, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why waste a late roud draft pick for a season that is most likely finished..
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!
by SALTWATERJAG on Oct 17, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right. Time for open try-outs! Hey, maybe we will find our Vince Papale!
Seriously though. I agree we need to upgrade our receiving corps, but MSW is no better than anyone currently on our roster…. With the exception of Cecil Shorts (for now).
twitter - @jeffrojag
by Gabbert2Shorts on Oct 17, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
To those that voted yes,
Do you honestly think that a mediocre receiver that just flamed out on another team after doing nothing of note here is going to result in anything but more mediocrity?
Of course not, and that’s why the team is smarter than you for not bringing him back.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 17, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like they were smarter than you in cutting Garrard?
by Alfie Crow on Oct 17, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh snap
Sometimes I think the confrontation is tiring, sometimes it makes me laugh out loud. This, sir, was the latter
by JohnnyBiceps on Oct 17, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes they were. Just like they were smarter than you in not re-signing MSW.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 17, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I assume you aren't saying MSW had a 1400 yd season...
He barely broke that in 3 years combined…
twitter - @jeffrojag
by Gabbert2Shorts on Oct 17, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I know I'm a freak, but I got excited that you wrote this correctly
Just gets my goat how many different ways people butcher that phrase. Intensive purposes anyone?
by Atl- Jags Fan on Oct 17, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They should but they won't,
Doesn’t make sense to tell him hey we won’t resign you to then come back and try to resign him…he can get a little seperation but not much once he gets jammed and he does what the current wide outs do, drop passes
by amujic32 on Oct 17, 2011 12:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude....you serious?
So we’re gonna go back and re-sign a player who has the SAME EXACT WEAKNESSES of our current crop of receivers? (drops balls and can’t get seperation and ADD can’t get off the bump and run?!) #StopSmokingThatGanja
Travis D. Holmes
by T.Holmes on Oct 17, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Funny how no one mentioned the lack or seperation or getting jammed at the line until the Jaguars floated that out to the media to justify willingly making their WR position worse.
I personally mentioned it numerous times last year
It was the same problem MSW had in college (I played four years with him at ucf and as a corner practiced against him daily). He struggled against any team that played man to man bump and run D, and only shined against zone. You’re a pretty good tape guy Alfie…take it to the tape. Do you believe he can consistently beat bump and run after looking at the chargers game (in which all of his significant stats came in prevent d garbage time), philly, tennessee (twice), oakland, hell…even the buffalo game…going into each of those games you knew you’d have cover one or no safety help at all. He disappeared in every one. Say what you like, but the bump and run book written on msw has substance.
Travis D. Holmes
by T.Holmes on Oct 17, 2011 12:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You do realize he played all of last season with a high ankle sprain, right? The team constantly asked him to play and take cort shots.
I’m not saying he can beat it consistently, etc., but this was rarely if ever mentioned prior to the report of the team not bringing him back. Then suddenly, that was all over the place.
Teams rolled coverages to MSW. Having him helped more than not having him.
While I will definitely give you the injured point (because he definitely was)...
When in the last 6 years has he not been injured (yes, I’m even taking it back to his college days lol)? It can only be an excuse so long until you’re just like screw it…You’d almost have to assume that injured MSW WAS the normal MSW, if you know what I mean. So, is an injured MSW better than a non-injured Jason Hill, Thomas, or or even Dillard? I may give him better than Dillard, but the face that it’s even questionable says a lot. (And if you asked the Rams their actions say he’s not good at all currently. Dude can’t even win a starting job on a majorly depleted receiving corps in St. Louis!
Travis D. Holmes
Hell, he was injured when he was signed by St. Louis! LOL...dude's made of a glass and cotton combo.
Travis D. Holmes
I always loved him as a receiver...I never liked that he could never put it together.
The same way I feel currently about Zach Miller. And jealous? LOL…why would I be? I’m talking football and in talking football I’m speaking the truth…dude can’t go ONE season without staying healthy-FACT. Dude drops a great amount of passes-FACT. Dude just got cut by an already depleted St. Louis Rams Receiving Corps-FACT. My personal feelings have nothing to do with any of that. I actually like MW in college (he wasn’t a cocky a-hole like Brandon Marshall…who even his team mates hated). Dude was a chill dude who didn’t talk much. But the facts are the facts. Dude is injury prone like bubble boy. (kanye west shrug)
Travis D. Holmes
It just sounds like you're calling him a pussy.
Fred Taylor played 16 games, just twice, and he’s pure greatness, IMO. You never know when it’s just gonna click for someone. MSW, might get another shot and just go lights-out. It took Brandon Lloyd seven seasons before he did anything. I guess I was right for liking MSW as a person, he seems like a cool dude. I didn’t like seeing him leave the Jags.
I'd rather be golfing.
Naw...I loved him as a dude...he jokes around a lot
like the day I got an int on him in our first few days of practice and I talked crap after in the locker room. He then asked me have I ever played with myself on a video game. (I responded no obviously). he then told me to stfu until someone knew my name…it was hilarious I will admit lol…He was real chill and personable. But as a player just can’t stay healthy…and can’t progress as a WR if you can’t even train, have an offseason, and adjust season after season AT LEAST once! Freddie was a beast in college…and when he DID play was a monster…MSW was an OKAY WR but not good enough to have the luxury to be as injury prone as he was. Im not calling him a pussy (because he DID play through it…), just calling it what it is. He’s fragile.
Travis D. Holmes
Having him helped more than not having him.
St. Louis disagrees with you.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 17, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh really?
I was unaware our receivers played for St. Louis. That’s for breaking that news.
Can’t wAit for Blaine to be slinging passes to Clayon and Lloyd Sunday!
by Alfie Crow on Oct 17, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doesn’t change the fact that your boy just flamed out on a bad team, and he’s definitely never coming back here, because he was never very good to begin with. Hurts, doesn’t it?
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 17, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I mentioned it
If he was playing against man you had to throw a ridiculously accurate pass to make him a viable target.
I voted yes, but,
overall I’m not sure I agree with: let Walker go to Rams, Broncos ready to trade Lioyd, Walker comes back to Jags, Rams sign Lloyd.
The team didn’t have enough at WR to let him go in the first place. At this point they should have pursued Lloyd. Someone else may be available before tomorrow, however.
I'd rather be golfing.
At least he wouldn't cost a draft pick if the Jags were to get him
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
If you ain't first, you're last.
I made a crack earlier in the week
on Twitter about the Jags going to get MSW. It was a complete joke, but after some thought, it would make good sense. They’d likely be able to sign him cheap, and he’d be able to jump right in.
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He would break an ankle if he "jumped in"...Just sayin..
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!
by SALTWATERJAG on Oct 17, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Bring back Troy Williamson Bring back Northcutt Bring back Porter
Keep Gene Smith
Fire Jack Del Rio
Give Monroe chicken
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 17, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
T.O
I’ve always said that he was a productive reciever, even with his age. I would at least take a shot at him and see what he does.
I know people are going to have alot to say about this but, I like the guy. Hell if we signed Kampman for 4 years i know we can sign T.O for 7 weeks.
B.MILLS
Keep Gene Smith
Fire Jack Del Rio
Give Monroe chicken
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 17, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I apologize
Keep Gene Smith
Fire Jack Del Rio
Give Monroe chicken
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't stop looking
Will I have a seizure too?
Keep Gene Smith
Fire Jack Del Rio
Give Monroe chicken
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 17, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Sign him for the veteran minimum
The problem with MSW was he was always hurt, this doesn’t seem to be the issue with him this year. St. Louis is in shambles and dropping balls isn’t characteristic of MSW, I say it’s a bad fit for him there. Bring him back for the rest of the season, see how it turns out in the wash.
Lioyd
just landed on the Rams for a sixth-round pick, which could turn in to a fifth-round based on catches. The Jags are crazy for not getting in on a deal like that, on Friday.
I'd rather be golfing.
5th rounder likely. Contingent on whether or not he reaches 30 catches with the team from what I read on Mile High Report.
So it will likely be a 5th rounder…and apparently he was a locker room cancer. I wouldn’t doubt that had much to do with why the Jags had no interest. (cancer + 31 years old next season + one productive season + likely wanting a pretty significant contract next year -especially with the new CBA = more risk than reward if you’re planning on getting a WR or two between next year’s FA crop and the first/second round in next years draft). Just my two cents.
Travis D. Holmes
Gosh, a "cancer"?
I can agree with not getting locker-room cancer then. And, I was making comments last week about his age and possible “final payday”.
I'd rather be golfing.
+1
Lol. And Osgood has his other jersey number (#81)
by Jags85 on Oct 17, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They would...
have to cut BG so MSW can have his # back. Sorry Blaine….good luck to you in the future.
Lets see...
the one team that is as terrible in the wr department as the Jags released him. That should say enough.
He has trouble staying healthy, and has been atrocious this year. If he is an improvement, it is so minimal that it isn’t worth the bother.
@troycarson
I wouldn't mind it
He did draw coverage and get open occasionally
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Oct 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
right now I’m not sure whether this is a good idea or not but really whats it gonna hurt. its the same thing i said about bringing in brandon Lloyd either our receiving corps play increases or its still crappy, what is there to lose.
by only jags fan in orange on Oct 17, 2011 8:56 PM EDT reply actions
No offense intended
But did you seriously just compare MSW to Fred Taylor? Yes, I’ll give you the fact that he was injured a lot, however he currently ranks 15th on the NFL Career Rushing List. I’ll give you the injuries, but in no way whatsoever can he be compared to MSW because when he was healthy, he outperformed MSW by far….. Not even close.
MSW just didn’t have it (as evident by the Rams cutting him loose so quick) and I was glad we cut him loose. Also, to everyone saying bring him back…… Please explain why we need another WR that can’t catch. Come on people. I could have sworn the idea is to get better and not stay mediocre. Thanks, but no thanks. It would just give JDR another excuse.
Bring MSW back to boost M80's performance
i.e. Mike Sims-Walker is just bait for the best corners. Gets pressure off of Mike Thomas and puts him back in his element.
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