The Jaguars Draft and a New Way to Look at It from an Outsider
Hello all, I come into your humble abode as an active participant in other SB nation blogs, namely CatScratchReader and MTD on the football side. I enjoy looking at the draft and have come here today to ask you your thoughts on your particular teams needs and the level of needs in each case.
Recently over on CSR, a reader of ours, Tater, came up with a nice way of putting numbers on needs and values of the team and players. Here is how it works from his own words:
The system provides a point value to the situation of a team at a position from 10 to 1. 10 being the MOST dire and 1 being no worries. It then goes on to provide a point value to a draftable player from 10 to 1, 10 being the best in the draft and 1 being unproven questionable talent.
To compute the DVI of a position, you simply add the two numbers together.
Let me go ahead and show you the metrics...
Draft Value Index (DVI)
Team Situation at position (TS)
10 - No viable or serviceable starter and no legitimate or serviceable future starter
9 – No viable or serviceable starter and serviceable future starter
8 – Serviceable starter with injury/time issues and no legitimate or servicable future starter
7 – Viable starter with injury/time issues and no legitimate or servicable future starter
6 – Serviceable starter with injury/time issues and no legitimate future starter, but servicable future starter exists
5 – Viable starter with injury/time issues and future viable starter exists
4 – Serviceable starter with no legitimate future starter
3 – Serviceable starter with legitimate future starter
2 - Viable starter with serviceable depth
1 – Viable starter with legitimate depth
Projected Player Quality (PQ)
10 – Once in a generation player, immediate viable starter, future HOF’er
9 – Special talent, proven college track record, immediate viable starter, future Pro Bowler
8 – Above Average talent, proven college track record, immediate viable starter
7 – Special talent, unproven college track record, immediate serviceable starter, future viable starter
6 – Above Average talent, unproven college track record, immediate serviceable starter, future viable starter
5 – Average talent, proven college track record, immediate and future serviceable starter
4 – Average talent, unproven college track record, future serviceable starter
3 – Developmental talent, proven college track record at position, future viable starter
2 – Developmental talent, proven college track record at other position, future viable starter
1 – Developmental talent, unproven college track record, future serviceable starterA couple of key terms:
Viable starter- Someone you are fully comfortable carrying the load at a position
Serviceable starter – Someone you are comfortable carrying the load until better talent can be acquiredI think you guys get the picture, so from now on I will just list the positions with the greatest need.
WR - 6, OT - 7, G - 4, DT - 9, OLB - 7,
Now to apply these findings a little...
DT is our greatest need. We should draft DT if a player of quality 10-8 exists when we pick, for comparison, Ndamukong Suh has a PQ of 10, we have a TS of 9, that gives Suh a DVI of 19. The reason that we go DT, is that the next greatest need we have is OLB which we should only consider drafting if a player has a DVI of 17 and no DT is higher than 16. If there is a tie, as say the best DT is a 17 and the best linebacker is a 17, the tiebreaker is organization philosophy, which for Carolina is BPA over Need. Therefore, we draft the "Once in a generation linebacker" first over the "Special but unproven talent" at DT.
Also here is the link to the original post: http://www.catscratchreader.com/2011/10/19/2501145/the-draft-value-index-drafting-by-the-numbers
I am interested in hearing your thoughts on the system and how the numbers work out for your team, and also if you have any traded draft picks. This would help me a lot in putting together my mocks and planning for the draft. Thanks all. Look forward to the discussions.
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okay
QB – 7
RB – 8/9
Wr – 3/4
TE – 8
OT – 6
OG – 6/7
OC – 7
DE – 5/6
DT – 8
OLB – 7/8
MLB – 8
CB – 7
FS – 7
SS – 7
K – 8/9
P – 6/7
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 23, 2011 7:57 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oops
I did it on a higher the number, the better. Just do the opposite, my bad
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Real fans don’t need a reason.
"Real G's move in silence like lasagna.." lol
by TheTealDeal on Oct 23, 2011 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So are you on the Blackmon/Jeffrey bandwagon?
Obviously your highest need here.
Not everywhere...
On CSR it is quite a bit because all of the Smitty is getting old, got to have someone who can be that #1, but there is a majority who have faith in Lafell, Gettis, Armanti Edwards, and Pilares (rookie). Almost all realize we need DT help though.
A lot of our talk has centered around if we pick in the 5-10 range and one is available but no other need is worth that pick, what do we do?
I think most our fans are on that bandwagon
It’s only the mockers who have never watched a Jags game that think DE is our greatest need
WR- 8 OL-7 DE-6 CB-6
I feel those are our four biggest needs. We have solid starters at DE and CB, but I’m not sure how much longer Mathis will be here and we dont have any stars at either position. We need a lot of depth on the OL and our WR issues are well documented.
QB: 4
RB: 5
WR: 8
OT: 6
OC/OG: 8
TE: 4
DE: 7
DT: 6
OLB: 4
MLB: 4
CB: 6/7
S: 4
Interior O-line is really beat up this season. It’s also worth noting that Meester and Manuwai are old enough that we don’t know how much time they have left.
WR spot is pretty weak, probably our worst need, but I personally don’t consider WR as a top-10 pick position unless the name on the jersey says “Christ.”
Kampman is old and injured but he was our best pass rusher last year. We could use D-line depth, specifically a two-gapping DT. Rashean Mathis might not be brought back next year, so it wouldn’t hurt to look seriously at CB in the draft.
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by Brian Levenson on Oct 24, 2011 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Oh yeah...
My bad.
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