New Quarterbacks. Are any of them good?

by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 25, 2011 9:42 PM EDT

i was just thinking about the new young quarterbacks in the league and i thought to myself that non of them had eclipsed the "very good" marking yet and idk why? these is just a break down and its something off topic from the jags awesome ass whipping of the ravens(even though i dont really want to get off that topic) but i cant for the life of me figure out why basically every quarterback with the exception of a couple since 2006 are anything but average and im starting to wonder if this is a trend and that good Qbs arent gonna be coming around to often anymore

2006

Vince Young-athletic but cant play QB, bust

Matt leinart- no arm or work ethic leads him outa the league

Jay cutler- decent Qb awesome arm but is he elite or even good? i dont know about that one

Kellen Clemons-yawn

tavaris jackson/charlie whitehurst-as charles barkley would say, turrible

2007

jamarcus russell-need i even say anything?

brady quinn- Career backup, but a good one IMO

Kevin Kolb-lack of offseason and teams fearing rookie qbs couldnt prepare forced his market up to a level it should have never reached and ARI is feeling the sting of such a colossal miscue. hes decent but nothing better

trent edwards-3rd stringer

2008

Matt ryan-the best quarterback in this span by far but still not elite. doesn't seem to have monster games consistently that qbs like aaron rodgers and drew brees do that would move him up into the elite category.

Joe Flacco- OVER RATED. A bad quarterback that has been carried by a dominant ravens D. I've doubted him since he got in the league and it seems people are warming up to the idea that he isn't that good. Jags game for example

Brian Brohm-not good at all

Chad Henne-Good arm but terrible decision making is forcing him out of miami

2009

Matt Staford- The only quarterback that shows flashes that he can be a top 5 quarterback but is always injured. I like him but he isn't elite and probably never will be unless he can STAY HEALTHY

Mark Sanchez-terrible except for in the playoffs when hes just ok. He has got to go for the jets to be elite again he is holding them back

Josh Freeman- Looked great his first couple years. Not so much this year. Bad decision making is his biggest problem the question is is this just a blip this season or is there more poor play to come from josh freeman? i say no but who knows

Pat white- did the michael jordan thing and went to baseball but hes terrible so no one cares

Curtis painter-nothing special leading a horrible team into the dirt to eventually draft his replacement

2010-now these are tentative cuz they havent played that much but you can kind of get an idea

Sam Bradford-always hurt but when hes healthy hes ok. Very overated though. Don't get me wrong hes a good quarterback but he has the joe flacco mark sanchez affect going right now. only time will tell

Tim tebow-you either love him or hate him nothing said will sum up anything so ill just move on

Jimmy clausen-career backup

Colt mccoy- decent player but showing some cracks in his sophmore year which is to be expected but is he the answer in cleveland? i say no but that doesnt matter. he will never be elite

So basically every quarterback the last 5 years have been average with the exception of matt ryan and matt stafford and i have no idea why. Does anybody have any ideas cause i cant come up with one. just hope these odds exclude blaine

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What happened to patience?

People used to believe that it took five years for a QB to fully mature. Now, it’s more like one or two.
Sure none of those guys are gamebreakers, but there are only so many Peyton Manning/Tom Brady players out there. Right now, Aaron Rodgers is coming up. In a few years, Stafford could be there also. Luck looks like a once-a-generation talent at QB coming out in 2012.
Patience.

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by Brian Levenson on Oct 26, 2011 8:00 AM EDT reply actions

Coaches don't have the luxury of patience they had back then either.

What’s the point of leaving a QB on the side to mature if your fans are going to run you out of town before he’s ready ?

by pksiv on Oct 28, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions

I agree

Like I stated that 5 year window is now 3 yrs and with every rookie quarterback that plays well after 1 or 2 seasons that window will become smaller. Teams need to be competitive so coaches are not going to wait 5 years to see if a QB pans out. That decision point is going to come much sooner. That might not be fair but it is reality.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Oct 28, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions

well thats the way it is

because back then quarterback play didnt directly correlate with wins and losses. if you had a strong running game and defense you could go through the growing pains of a bad quarterback until he developed. now a days quarterbacks are directly correlated with victorys so owners and gms are gonna be less patient with a bad quarterback after 2 + years.
i am just worried that maybe with that added pressure quarterbacks arent developing and are destined more for failure because 90% of those quarterbacks listed above arent even backup worthy

Cold Blooded

by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 29, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Patience is a luxury now

I think it still does take five years for a quarterback to mature but I think teams are making their assessments much sooner. I think by the third full year that a quarterback starts you can pretty much make a determination as to what you have. Does the QB show improvement over the period or is he still inconsistent? I use three years for these reasons. In year one the QB is just getting used to the speed and complexity of the game. Toward the end of the first year he should be better than at the beginning as the game starts to slow down. During the second year other teams now have enough film on the QB to begin to understand how to game plan against him. How does he handle this? The third year the QB should be able to show he can handle what other teams are throwing at him. If there is no real improvement from year one to year three then I believe teams are going to start looking at other options. The rookie wage scale will only reinforce this since teams will not have the investment in the QB that teams had prior to the wage scale. I think the poster’s question is a valid one.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Oct 28, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions