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"and that's the difference between ray rice and mjd"

I wrote that during Monday night's blog. Here's why.

At the 12:08 mark of the fourth quarter, the Ravens had a 2nd and 19 from their own 41. They had a tight end and two wide-outs to the left and one split wide to the right. Ray Rice was lined up over left tackle. Mincey chucks and covers the tight end. Roth, Knighton and Alualu rush. Daryl Smith comes right away on the blitz. Six blocking, four rushing. LT and LG double Alualu. C and RG double Knighton. Roth 1-on-1 with RT. Smith shoots the gap between RG and RT with Rice coming up to block. At 12:07 Smith and Rice meet. At 12:06 Rice is on the ground and Smith has two hands on Flacco. Then Flacco's on the ground, too. 3rd and 31.

"... he just ran right over Ray Rice." -- Jon Gruden

Star-divide

I read a lot of polls and rankings for running backs. For the life of me, I can't figure out how people come up with those rankings. MJD is consistently ranked behind several, despite being second currently in yards (first in the AFC) and leading in carries. On that basis alone, he should be at or just below the top ranking. And maybe rankers figure with specialty backs teams don't need a complete player at that position. I like the complete player, MoJo, who's pretty good back there in protection.


I disagree with something our friends at Profootballfocus wrote. They have a weekly "Had a Bad Day" team. Ray Rice "earned" that distinction this week. The runner-up? MoJo. I guess they're basing it on him putting the ball on the carpet three times.

But here's another difference. At the end of the day, Rice had eight carries. MoJo had 30. The game hurt his average. But as they say, "It's not the yards; it's the carries." I remember games against  the Steelers where Bettis would end up with 105-120 yards. It was always 30-35 carries. It's not the yards; it's the carries.

Not counting the three kneel-downs to end the game, MoJo carried the ball on 8 of the Jaguars' 13 fourth-quarter plays. In a game where MoJo put the ball on the ground enough times to frustrate even the most ardent Jags fan, the team kept coming back to him. Crunch time against the best defense in the league. MoJo up the middle. MoJo off tackle.

Best player on the Jaguars? A 5-foot-7 guy named Maurice.

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I agree. He’s the 2nd best RB behind AP by a not too wide margin. He’s definitely better than Chris Johnson and has an edge over Adrian foster. Ray rice is debatable about being #4 or so best.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

"Real G's move in silence like lasagna.." lol

by TheTealDeal on Oct 27, 2011 3:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If you're talking about...

all around game, then MJD should be number one. There is no back in the league that can run up the middle, the outside, catch out of the backfield and stay in for pass protection equally as well as he can. It’s not even close.

by Keenan J on Oct 27, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peterson can and does. You should watch Peterson more.

by Alfie Crow on Oct 27, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would if I could.

I watched the Vikings play this past Sunday and he is fun to watch. I just didn’t think they used him for pass protection or catching out of the backfield much. Now as far as being a pure runner out of the backfield, he’s the best hands down.

by Keenan J on Oct 27, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peterson has gotten better in the passing game

blocking and receiving, but he’s still behind MJD in that aspect.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 27, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Jags are terrible!!

by thegoodz on Oct 28, 2011 1:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What did Arian do last week?

100 yard receiving and 100 running. If Arian has not missed so many games he has this would not be a disscussion.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I said...

if we’re talking about all around game, then you’re right, it’s not a discussion. MJD is better.

by Keenan J on Oct 27, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arian does it all just like MJD.

Granted he only been around two years but i think he will turn out to have a pretty good nfl career.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's behind

a much better OL and offense in general. And in no way is he as good as MJD in short yardage or as a blocker.

by Ewdtrey on Oct 27, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you the same Texans fan that also said

Steve Slaton was better than MoJo?

Fidelis Ad Mortem

by JPQ! on Oct 27, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah i have never said that.

but i did think he was better then chris johnson at one time.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't feel bad, I thought Quinn Gray was better than David Garrard

You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.

I don't think you took me seriously. If you want it unbanned, email an admin. But, for now, your Stampede Blue privileges are done.

by Joe Fisher on Oct 28, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are teams loading up the box to stop Foster?

I doubt it because the Houston pass offense isn’t something that can be neglected by loading extra defenders against the run. MJD does more with less while doing it far longer than Foster.

by Jagtastic on Oct 27, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not going to Knock MJD.

you are right he has done alot more with less talent, whats sad is it kinda reminds me of Barry sanders all over again with MJD. You put MJD on lets say New Orleans, then well i could see alot more chapionship.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

You just put MJD in the same sentence as Barry Sanders.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 27, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey i give props where they are due.

Granted MJD is no Barry Sanders, it is just the teams they both play for. I like MJD only when he is not playing my Texans.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do me a favor TealDeal.

Slap yourself for two things. 1. Not knowing Arian Foster name and 2. Thinking that MJD is that much better.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arian Foster

is just as good/consistent as Shaun Alexander.

by Jagtastic on Oct 27, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry arian foster, usually I call him foster or bananas foster (espn can be funny). However mjd has the edge over foster

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

"Real G's move in silence like lasagna.." lol

by TheTealDeal on Oct 27, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

its cool i am just messing with you.

I think we should start to accept it when ppl call him Adrian cause they must think he is as good as Adrian Peterson.

by southpaw70 on Oct 27, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it wasn't...

just Rice’s ineffectivenes as a runner that lost him playing time that game. It was clear that he was suffering in his ability to hold up in pass protection too. Terrell Suggs said he didn’t understand why Rice wasn’t involved in the gameplan more but it was obvious why. Maybe they did give up on him a little too early in the game but if I was Cam Cameron, I’m not sure I would’ve kept giving him the ball either.

by Keenan J on Oct 27, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm a "stat" guy, for sure,

but your comment about Smith and Rice illustrates the types of plays that never make it into the stat book, good and bad.

Your comment about Profootballfocus demonstrates the fact that when the Jags are in conversation around the league, it’s rarely what they did good, it’s how bad the other guys were.

Good write-up.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 27, 2011 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I just watched the Smith sack.

It’s funny that Rice should have had leverage on Smith as the lower guy, but Smith just chucked him out of the way and moved on to Flacco.

by Shane Clemons on Oct 27, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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