Offensive struggles tarnish another strong defensive effort
by Adam Stites on Oct 30, 2011 6:18 PM EDT
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PrintBoth of the Jaguars touchdowns in today's 24-14 loss came after the Jacksonville defense forced a turnover and gave the offense the ball deep in Houston territory. While it's good to see that the Jaguars offense was able to capitalize on their two trips to the red zone, they were simply awful at moving the ball.
Maurice Jones-Drew did all he could to hash out yards against a tough Texans defense, getting the majority of his 63 yards after contact. But as has been the case all season, the offense was completely unable to pass the ball effectively and it proved to be the difference in the game.
Blaine Gabbert hit just 10 of his 30 attempted passes and was unable to break 100 yards passing as he struggled with accuracy for the majority of the game. With only the exceptions of a curl route to Jarett Dillard and Marcedes Lewis finding a hole in the center of the defense, I can't think of a single time when a Jaguars receiver was able to get enough separation to give Gabbert an easy pass though.
Gabbert's streak of over 100 straight passes without an interception also came to a close as he threw a pick to Brian Cushing after it was deflected at the line by Conner Barwin and threw another to Jason Allen just five throws later.
The offense was as Michael Appelbaum described earlier: anemic. Again.
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At least we didn't draft Tebow
I hate your couch....DON'T DRAFT ANDREW LUCK HE SOUNDS LIKE A MUPPET
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 30, 2011 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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by RjTheMetalhead on Oct 30, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just wait.
Mike Sims-Walker gone break out!
He better than Brandon “1yearWonder” Lloyd!
Mike Thomas has shown us he deserved a new contract!
Marcedes the best got damn blocking TE yea ever saw!
Cecil “the Diesel” Shorts III is READY BAYBEE! COME ON JAGS!!!
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classic
I hate your couch....DON'T DRAFT ANDREW LUCK HE SOUNDS LIKE A MUPPET
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 30, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'LL HAVE WHAT SLVRGUNS DRINKING!
Regardless of whether or not we suck it’s been a treat to sit back and watch the drama unfold.
by Section242 on Oct 30, 2011 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gabberf's gonna have a breakout game any time now!
WOOOOOOOOO
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 30, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
yo gabba gabba
I think its possible that Blaine Gabbert just isn’t very good. I’m pretty sure that even jobless Garrard was throwing to those same receivers. And he wasn’t throwing 30 percent. Everybody needs to put the damn koolaid down and see reality.
by Blair72 on Oct 30, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why would we do that
When we can just blame the coaching staff
Garrard was throwing to them. And they would catch it.
Blaine throws a better ball and they drop it.
are you watching the same game?
Every single pass he throws is behind the receiver. He can’t even throw a good ball on a quick slant. Theyre dropping them because the balls off the mark.
Dude,
You lose all credibility for saying: “Every single pass he throws is behind the receiver.” You’re the one watching something else.
I'd rather be golfing.
Doesnt matter garrard had season ending surgery anyways.
If you've made enemies then you've stood up for something
So a 10 year vet is slightly better than a rookie
Here’s the thing, Garrard should be better than Gabbert. However the gap isn’t THAT wide and if it’s not there’s no reason to pay the $8-9 mil to someone who isn’t that much better than QB who can grow in talent.
This offense has been terrible….only difference now is we just installed a rookie QB & now we want him to work some magic…..@ the start of pats vs Steelers game big Ben had 3 WRs open on one play! Play calling???
by orecic76 on Oct 30, 2011 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But you forget...
Garrard was a top 15 QB…thats in the top 1/2, so he must be good!!!
Fidelis Ad Mortem
atleast garrard could throw over 100 yards
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And this year's is worse.
By any measure, Gabbert’s been bad. Let’s not act like it’s been something it hasn’t.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 30, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I must have missed where I’ve said Gabbert has been good and the offense wasn’t bad?
I’ll implore you to show me, please.
When will you start counting Gabbert's almost-INTs as INTs?
It’s only a matter of time till you turn on him, right?
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 31, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Look, I know the receivers suck. We agree.
The line is inconsistent too, and I’ve stopped drinking the Gene koolaid. But why is Gabbert so much worse than the other rookies that also didn’t have an offseason of work? Once upon a time, San Diego fans also were saying Ryan Leaf was just a rookie. The free passes have to end eventually, and Gabbert’s not shown much of anything to inspire optimism.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 31, 2011 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought we knew Blaine needed time
Before the draft we covered all the QB options, and what was covered has been largely true. Dalton was ready to play without a ton of upside, Cam Newton was incredibly talented but a wildcard with how he will play immediately (turns out pretty awesome) & both Gabbert and Locker were very talented guys who could use some grooming before they played.
I hate how our QB situation turned out, but I can’t say I’m disappointed in Gabbert so far. He has some excellent skills that not every QB in the league has, he anticipates and understands how defense & offensive plays work better then anyone we have ever had hold Brunell (and he SHOULD turn out better there) and hes got the arm to make the throws. His flaws are just as obvious, his accuracy is shaky at best and his foot work is high school level. In addition, I don’t think his pocket awareness is very good and his ball, while pretty, isn’t easy to catch. That could be the receivers too, in fact it probably is, but he still has to take something off his fastball at times. But again, we knew he wasn’t polished enough to play, I’m holding ultimate judgment on him for this year and hoping the PT will help in the long run. I’ll still criticize him, but for the most part I expect this kind of play.
But But But
Garrard threw 23 TDs!! He broke records!!
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Oct 30, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he will improve
I’ll give this year to him and not and try to judge him too bad. The Jaguars have just invested all of their future in this kid. So hopefully he improves to the elite QB this franchise needs next year. If not it’s going to be another long decade for the Jaguars.
Cant happen
If a Qb better than Gabbert is available, you have to make the pick, cant let 1 wrong pick ruin all future drafts…
im assuming Gabbert is a miss pick
maybe he isnt…its all hypotetical…
This is the NFL.
Easy throws will be available sometimes but you have to be able to make the tough ones and Gabbert isn’t right now. That near catch by Kevin Walter from Matt Schaub is a throw that Gabbert wouldn’t have been able to made. Blaine has to do better, period.
I'm watching the Pats/Steelers' game
and Wallace, Brown, and Sanders are always getting open.. I’m so jealous
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Oct 30, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
i watched the Houston game today
and Dreesen, Daniels, Walter and Turk are always wide open
Blaine...
probably continues to struggle constantly waisting strong defensive outings.
I agree the defense is good, and giving solid effort...
But let’s not start sucking each others d***s just yet. 24 points isn’t so great – and that’s without Andre Johnson.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
24 points...
with how many opportunties? Our offense sustains some of those drives and there is no way they get that many points because they wouldn’t have been on the field long enough to do so.
I agree wholeheartedly...
but the defense is good, not great. Still cant cover TEs, especially on 3rd down. They are really improved, but people are acting like we are the 86 Giants or 2000 Ravens.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Who's doing making those comparisons?
I haven’t seen anyone say anything close to that. I agree that the defense should be labeled as great but their good enough for us to win. There is no defense that doesn’t have some sort of deficiency. As Brian Levenson said (I think it was Brian), you take last years offense and this years defense and this team would be playoff bound. This team is suffering right now because of Blaine’s poor perfomance.
He would have
but Luke got injured.
by Casey Byron Adkins on Oct 30, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Since you can't keep up,
Brian was quoted as saying this year’s defense and last year’s offense, combined, would be playoff bound. That’s a bold statement because last year’s offense was not great and our starting QB was benched in the second game.
I'd rather be golfing.
we turned the ball over twice in our terrority and the special teams were giving up 30 yard punt returns
hard to always stop them with short fields.
Why do we feel the need to compare the QBs drafted in the same year?
They all go to different systems, with different complimentary parts. All we need to focus on is Gabbert. Screw the other guys. Who cares what they do as long as Gabbert grows into a leader on this team.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
This is impossible.
Too many (so-called) Jags fans want to see him fail.
I'd rather be golfing.
by iodrew on Oct 30, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Give him a steve smith (not the alleged next steve smith in mike thomas) or aj green or some Serious receiving TE and Blaine Gabbert looks better. Gabbert is not without fault or error, no qb is, but blaine probably has the crappiest offense group out of the bunch
by Jags85 on Oct 30, 2011 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Even in a vacuum, Gabbert's been terrible.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Oct 30, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jags offense is so bad
Idk if Blaine could throw 100 yards against a pee wee team with our helpless, lackluster bunch of receivers. The offense is just so terrible to watch (w the exception to MJD). When the Jag’s play offense I want to wear a paper bag then take it off when the D’ comes on the field bc frankly AND pathetically, the D’ is more exciting to watch then our own offense
by Jags85 on Oct 30, 2011 7:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Defense gift-wraped 2 TDs for us
Defense is like effing Santa Clause, because offense can get anything by itself
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Real fans don’t need a reason.
"Real G's move in silence like lasagna.." lol
by TheTealDeal on Oct 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
can’t
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Real fans don’t need a reason.
"Real G's move in silence like lasagna.." lol
by TheTealDeal on Oct 30, 2011 8:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why is everyone blaming the receivers?
When Garrard had the same group last year and the offense did pretty well. I’ll say this a million times if I have to, the problem is Blaine.
Wait, so the offense is struggling because of a rookie quarterback?
BREAKING NEWS.
Everyone complained about the wide receivers last year, too.
Yeah, that's exactly why the offense is struggling.
They might have complained about the receivers but we still were able to score points.
Braking news
Lewis scored 10 of those and has already droped 4 possible td in the endzone this year, our receiving core has degressed
WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--
Why does people...
keep telling me stuff like I don’t know it. I know how many TD’s Lewis had last year. And how exactly did the receiving corps degress? If anything they haven’t gotten any better, but they didn’t get worse.
People does tell you
Because it’s true. Lewis was last years best weapon, he hasn’t regressed this year? See want you want see I guess
by JohnnyBiceps on Oct 31, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Sims-Walker and Marcedes Lewis had 17 of those 23 passing touchdowns. Gene Smith let one guy walk and the other has dropped 3-4 TD’s.
Again, no one is absolving Gabbert. The offense sucks and he’s a big part of it. The receivers also suck, however.
Who was throwing the them the ball?
And under what offensive scheme were they playing under? The guy that everyone wanted replaced and the guy that almost everyone wants fired right now. The only ex-factor in this whole equation is Blaine.
And to my recollection, Lewis has only dropped 2 TD’s this year.
Hey, guess what: Blaine is about the long term.
Garrard wouldn’t change much of anything. Stop. He got cut. He’s injured and can’t play. You’ve got what you got.
SERIOUSLY?
Keenan j what’s your deal with garrard? Are u him or a personal friend of his? I do not understand why u are so wrapped up talking him up and pissing on gabbert. Gabbert is already better than garrard in my opinion as a rookie with a poor coaching staff and no offseason.
by Section242 on Oct 31, 2011 12:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL!!!
This is the lamest comment someone has responded to one of my comments with. All I’m going to say to this, is that you really think Gabbert is a better quarterback than Garrard was RIGHT NOW then you, and everyone who believes that, is fooling themselves.
That defense you guys have is something to build around.
Extremely tough to run on.
Y’all are just an offense away from being a playoff team. That D is near-elite, if not elite (pass defense could have been better).
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
What needs to happen next season
Draft a receiver in the first round. Maybe draft a DE or an OT. Then sign a young free agent receiver. Let’s face it, Blain doesn’t have a go to guy like other teams have. In the offseason, hopefully Gabbert can fix some of the issues he has. If Gene Smith is still here next year, which I wouldn’t see why not, I think he can improve the offense like he did with the defense by bringing in the right players. And I think a new coach is obviously needed.
I think everyone here agrees with that statement
I hate your couch....DON'T DRAFT ANDREW LUCK HE SOUNDS LIKE A MUPPET
by tiquanunderwear on Oct 30, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You draft the BAP available in the first round..
If it happens to be a WR, great. You don’t sway from your philosophy. However, there is a good chance that WR will be the BAP when the Jags pick, looking at next year’s class, and assuming the Jags have a top five to top ten pick.
You just can’t reach for need. That goes against everything the Jaguars are trying to build.
I completely agree...
I would sincerely be happy if we went on the clock in April and picked another QB in the 1st round…Worst thing a franchise can do is pass on a potential franchise trigger man….I think Gene has shown that he has enough conviction in his board to pick BAP, which is why I want him to get a new contract
It almost sickens me to think of the players we passed on
simply because we drafted for need and reached for other players
I still standbye giving gabbert the rest of this season and next season(see how he developes with an offseason to study)
If you've made enemies then you've stood up for something
I agree
I think this offseason will be very telling. Further, I think that there is a very good chance that Gabbert will have to learn an entirely new system. That really isn’t a big deal considering he will have the entire offseason to get prepared, assuming we hire a new staff in short order.
Based on what Weaver said his expectations were, JDR is as good as gone. I hope Weaver stands by his statement. This franchise needs a coaching change. I like JDR, but the bottom line is that he just hasn’t gotten it done. Time to move on.
Is it too much to ask
for MJD to get 25-30 carries?
I’m pretty sure that we are 2-0 when that’s happened this season.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 30, 2011 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
Wrong. He’s carried it more than 24 times once, against Baltimore.
The amount of carries have nothing to do with winning game. This is like the “when a team rushes for 100 yards they’re X-Y”. It’s unrelated.
Truth
he had 24 carries against Tennessee.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 30, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
And no
it’s not unrelated. MJD is the best offensive player on our team. If he’s not getting the ball, we aren’t going to win. It’s pretty simple.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 30, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
It is unrelated. He also carried it 24 times in a loss.
Jones-Drew’s touches have more to do with how the game is going more so than the result of the game. If the team is getting blown out, he’s not getting the ball because they’re playing catch up. If they have a lead, he’s going to get the ball to hold the lead and kill clock.
Just getting to some magic number of touches doesn’t mean squat.
But we've only been apart of one blowout.
The only situation I can see not giving MJD the ball is if we were behind two scores and it’s past the half way mark of the fourth quarter.
Jones-Drew averages 21 carries a game. Arian Foster leads the NFL averaging 22 carries a game.
Simply handing the ball off more isn’t going to magically change anything. He’s carried the ball more than 20 times 4 games, and they’re 2-2. In the “one blowout” he had 18 carries, so just 3 lower than his season average.
Giving the ball to your best player
most certainly can change things.
My dad taught me how to make meat for sloppy joes and my mom let me turn over hot dogs on the grill.
by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 31, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at (roughly) the last 20 Super Bowl winners. Look at the names. It's an all-star party.
Super Bowl 24. Joe Montana (MVP), 5 TDs
Super Bowl 25. Jeff Hostetler (Ottis Anderson), 1 TD
Super Bowl 26. Mark Rypien (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 27. Troy Aikman (MVP), 4 TDs
Super Bowl 28. Troy Aikman (Emmitt Smith), O TDs
Super Bowl 29. Steve Young (MVP), 6 TDs
Super Bowl 30. Troy Aikman (Larry Brown), 1 TD
Super Bowl 31. Brett Favre (Desmond Howard), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 32. John Elway (Terrell Davis), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 33. John Elway (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 34. Kurt Warner (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 35. Trent Dilfer (Ray Lewis), 1 TD
Super Bowl 36. Tom Brady (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 37. Brad Johnson (Dexter Jackson), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 38. Tom Brady (MVP), 3 TDs
Super Bowl 39. Tom Brady (Deion Branch), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 40. Ben Roethlisberger (Hines Ward), 0 TDs
Super Bowl 41. Peyton Manning (MVP), 1 TD
Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning (MVP), 2 TDs
Super Bowl 43: Ben Roethlisberger (Santonio Holmes), 1 TD
Super Bowl 44: Drew Brees (MVP), 2 TDs
You can’t make it if you can’t throw the ball. The more you run MJD, the quicker you end up with 9, and even 10 guys in the box. At this point, it’s 8 blockers vs. 10 tacklers. You cannot be one dimensional. It doesn’t work. You need a consistently good, even great, QB.
I'd rather be golfing.
this offense is on pace to be one of the worst all time
that seems crazy but its true. we probably wont score more than 160 this year and the record for all time low points scored is 144 i believe.
so yeah somethings gotta change
Cold Blooded
Dude our offense will be so awesome that they'll set records!
If you've made enemies then you've stood up for something
put spitz in even though hes a little banged up because rackley cant play right now. pick up tashard choice or bring up somebody from the practice squad so karim isnt running the ball. move mike thomas exclusively to the slot position to maybe cause some more mismatches in the center of the field because that seems where gabberts deep balls usually go and put msw and jason hill rotating on the outside. get rid of bolen and shorts (IR) because they provide nothing to the offense and pick up someone like tj houshmanzadah and hope to god he can maybe get some seperation
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
So, what does that change?
Honest question, because in my opinion everything you said changes absolutely nothing.
better guard, better backup running back and better depth at receiver
nothing can be done right now to make this offense all of a sudden good but those things would improve 3 areas
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If Spitz is better, why isn’t he playing? He’s not even active.
Houshmanzadeh isn’t better than anyone on this team, I’m sorry.
None of your “changes” improve anything. You just admitted nothing can be done, so what’s the point in crying for something to be done?
because i like winning
and whats on the field right now isnt doing it
so youre right we can just concede that we suck and be ok with a horrible offense
or we could actually try to do something about it
what would a winner do alfie? be ok with being terrible or try to get better?
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Suggest something that would actually make them better instead of just throwing out inane and ridiculous things.
How about that?
well what would you do?
honestly? i wanna hear something that you think would make the offense better
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
then if we are gonna concede this season i have 3 things that will help in the offseason
new coach new offensive coordinator and new quarterback
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll get two of the 3.
I love how the book on Gabbert has been written after six games. You people are funny.
its not dont yet
but it has its first 6 chapters finished and they are terrible
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Alfie, question
Any reason why JDR makes it thru the BYE week? He’s gone at the end of the season so why not cut out the disease before it spreads further. I don’t see why they don’t give an “interm” a shot before making an official decision this offseason for a new HC. Maybe an audition for an internal hire?
How is there any talk about the coaching after today?
This was all the players, our guys on offense played poorly and nothing game plan wise would have changed that. A change now wouldn’t do anything.
Same fans would of run off Aikman
Expectations are unrealistic. A couple rookies start and are playing decent, all of a sudden Gabberts a bust because hes not play as well as them. Please.
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
Thank God Vic is gone....
Because I’m pretty sure he would have another heart attack due to the never-ending response of “Help is not on the way” haha
Only thing that is going to make...
this offense better is better performances from Blaine. I don’t care what anyone says, I’m placing most of the blame one his poor play. I admit they haven’t made it easy on him with those drops but he still has to play better. I already sound like a broken record.
Nothing, because there is nothing that can be done that will change anything this season.
All you can do is ride it out.
thats the biggest cop out ever
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it a cop out?
There is nothing that can be done to make any significant improvement. That’s not a cop out, simply the reality of the situation.
we have the worst offense in the league
im pretty sure any addition to any position could make our offense improved
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd to last
is better then last
i know im reaching but there is no reason to not go out there and try to get somebody. we cant do any worse
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 31, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
we shouldve gotten alot of people
this offseason for the WR position but we didnt but that doesnt mean we cant just see whats out there instead of being content with crap
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 31, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably not a better guard if he was a healthy scratch today
Hard for me to get excited about a 2.7 yards/carry back. Not sure why I should be.
Depth at receiver doesn’t matter at this point. If they’re not the best receiver on the team, they’re not worth it.
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by Adam Stites on Oct 30, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Choice and TJ
Why would Choice come here? At best next year he’d be #3 on the depth chart and I highly doubt he sign here unless 30 other teams did not want him.
TJ is an older version of Mike Thomas. Again he’d be #3 or #4 on the depth chart in 2012.
Neither man would be willing to come here for a one year deal to be on a team that is NOT contending for the playoffs
choice
could very easily bump jennings for the number two spot with a good backend of the year so hed sign here if we gave him a fair contract
TJ isnt on a team and hasnt gotten any interest from anybody so unless he doesnt want to play football anymore then hed sign here to get on the field somewhere
honestly we dont know what they would do because we arent them but putting an offer on the table to see wouldnt hurt anything
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 31, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there any chance Del Rio gets the axe tomorrow or did the Baltimore game save his job? Either we fire Del Rio now or Dirk Koetter? Somebody has to take the blame…a lot cheaper to axe Koetter..LOL
what about Koetter? He’s safe too? LOL! We gotta have somebody else on our coaches roster that can call plays…I know Del Rio isn’t capable of offensive play calling
The game plan sucks.
I dont blame Koetter for his plays just the guy who decides when they should be used. aka JDR
That's not what I asked you.
You’re comment is more of an insult than an answer. So I’ll reword my question since you didn’t get it the first time. How do you know Del Rio is going to get fired after the season is over?
He’s assuming…Koetter or Del Rio one of the two should be fired during the bye….it would probably look more embarrassing on the franchise to fire Koetter being that Del Rio is already on the Hot Seat….but someone has to be held accountable for this lack of offensive production its pathetic….what could it possibly do to hurt the team by Firing Del Rio Now!???!
If anyone gets axed BEFORE the season
Very well could be Koetter…as a scapegoat. I know the offensive play-calling falls under him although the Lack of offensive talent isn’t necessarily his fault. But lets face it, the Baltimore game didn’t “save” anyones job, it just prolonged the inevitable
by Jags85 on Oct 30, 2011 11:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Touches for MJD.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 30, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay lets settle this right now.
MJD can get 40 touches a game and we could still lose. What do you people want. We run too much and get behind, you get mad. We pass too much, and you get mad MJD isn’t getting touches. I honestly don’t care how many touches MJD gets. I just want to see Blaine develop as a QB. He can’t really do that if we are worrying about how many touches MJD gets. I mean Blaine is mostly throwing on either a long down or on 3rd. Either way the playcalling is terribad. No screens, no plays to take advantage of our current personal. I dont know WTF koetter is doing.
I've yet to see..
a successful screen run by this team, which is probably why they don’t call many.
If MJD is carrying the ball
we are dominating the TOP. That’s how we’ve won in the past, and that’s how we can win this year.
We don’t have the WRs to be a passing threat. The sooner the coaching staff realizes that, the better.
MJD needs the ball. He is our best offensive weapon. We need to utilize him.
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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT
by justincredubil02 on Oct 31, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you cant sit here and tell me with a straight face that karim is better than choice and yeah tj houshmanzadah is a reach i never said i think he would work or even that i like himbut bringing in another receiver would show they are trying. houshmanzadah was the only free agent receiver i could think of other than TO lol
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Ok, maybe Choice over Karim is thinkable….but tj houshmanzadah?!?!?! thats inescusable….we should cut off your head for just thinking about it….hehehe
ok you go first
ill follow right after you lol
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by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Should've gotten Sproles
Could you imagine the hype and marketing potential of the two shortest RBs in the NFL together? Plus Sproles is killin it lately.
by Pocket Hercules 32 on Oct 30, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
most dynamic backfield in the nfl
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by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
but we still need another runner that can spell drew and not have a huge drop off running the ball and that sure as heck isnt karim
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by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is...
Gabbert is making himself 5 inches shorter every time he throws the ball. He cowers down at any pressure before he needs to and throws off his back foot far too often. He gets happy feet in the pocket and never steps up to throw. The scary thing is (Halloween reference)…he shares these traits in common with someone named Jimmy Clausen. And believe me, I hope the guy proves me wrong.
by Pocket Hercules 32 on Oct 30, 2011 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
I think thats an exaggeration.
How long would you stand tall in the pocket with absolutely no one getting open. Oh, yea stand tall and get busted. You a big man.
garrard did it all the time
i think thats why people are reacting the way they do to gabbert because our last qb was tough as nails
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by Jaggaholic82 on Oct 30, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Garrard was a moron.
No way I’d be standing there tall with WRs falling, dropping balls, cutting off routes. All of them sorry as hell, including Mike Thomas.
Its hard to teach toughness and pocket presence...
Once some is a little b****, they usually stay a little b****. Hopefully, once again, the Gabbster will prove me wrong.
by Pocket Hercules 32 on Oct 30, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
He isn’t comfortable in this offense but he is trying to make it work…….Mccown threw 4 INTs in this lousy offense….what QB wants to stand in the pocket with nobody to trust as far as blocking or getting open? Nobody ever is wide open or gets separation…most teams routes are designed to get someone open down field…Gabbert has to stay in the pocket too long for these short-mid range routes and nobody gettin open…..I never seen a QB more jumpy.
by orecic76 on Oct 30, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Now we are overreacting
Its always good to overreact, all cancers go away
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