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Blaine Gabbert is not going to make excuses for his play, but I will

HOUSTON, TX - OCTOBER 30:   Blaine Gabbert #11 of the Jacksonville Jaguars throws against the Houston Texans at Reliant Stadium on October 30, 2011 in Houston, Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

There's a phrase that is sometimes tossed around when rookies quarterbacks are put in as starters: "Set up for failure." It's used when a player is put in a situation where their chances at success are minimal and the most likely scenario for them is to fail as a quarterback. If Blaine Gabbert is not a player that was set up for failure in 2011, then I don't know who is.

His lack of success in the Jacksonville offense has led to a backlash of a large percentage of Jaguars fans doubting his ability as an NFL quarterback, which has only been compounded by the successes of rookies Cam Newton, Andy Dalton and Christian Ponder. While Gabbert certainly hasn't been a good quarterback so far, and believe me when I say no one is saying he has been, he certainly has a laundry list of reasons why his struggles are justified.

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The most obvious reason of them all are the wide receivers. In Carolina's game against the Vikings yesterday with 1:29 remaining in the first quarter, Cam Newton found Steve Smith on a slant across the middle of the field. The throw was way behind Smith, but he was able to turn all the way around, catch the ball and finish his 360 and turn upfield for what turned into a 19 yard gain.

Blaine Gabbert struggled with accuracy on Sunday against the Texans as many of his 20 incompletions were behind the receivers they were intended to. Of those 20 incompletions, how many would have been caught if the receivers had the separation that Smith consistently finds and were able to turn their bodies around to make the catch?

Of course I'm not saying that a quarterback should be making their receivers turn completely around to make the catch, but Gabbert's accuracy is not so terrible that these balls are uncatchable. In fact, the vast majority of them are; however, the placement on them has to be extremely precise because his passes must get by defenders that are consistently in position to make a play on the ball.

Gabbert has also been the victim of poor pass blocking, mostly from rookie guard Will Rackley and tackle Guy Whimper. He did a decent job at escaping pressure in the game against Houston, but Gabbert has had a tendency of running himself into pressure or just running away for no reason at times.

The only time he was sacked against the Texans was after Whimper was beat pretty badly. Through the first seven weeks, Football Outsiders ranked the Jaguars offensive line as the 31st best pass blocking line. Sounds awfully comforting to a quarterback who has to wait forever for a receiver to get open and in many cases they don't at all.

Ultimately, Gabbert is playing poorly. I'm not arguing as much, but how much can we fault a rookie with six career games under his belt in the situation he's been forced into.

Mark Long of the Associate Press said it best when he responded to a tweet from Alfie saying Gabbert was an odd choice for "a team with a non-QB coach QB coach and coords all on 1-year deals." Long said, "Not really an odd pick if he sits all year like he was supposed to. DG messed it up by sucking in preseason."

So, yes, Gabbert will be receiving a pass from me as well this season for his struggles. That is, as long as those struggles don't begin to evolve into things much worse than they currently are.

And to those that say Garrard did more with the same receivers, you are right. But the reason Garrard is no longer a member of the Jaguars was his propensity for making the bone-headed play, not his inability to make accurate passes in the shallow and intermediate passing game.

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I don't know why anybody expected Gabbert to play like anything other than a rookie

His performance in the preseason spoke for itself. He will get better, but he needs time. Plus, getting better receivers and better pass protection can’t hurt either.

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by JagsAlex87 on Oct 31, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

O-Line

I had much higher expectations for the O=Line. Britton being beat out at RG and Rackley who we moved up to get are showing there own rookie behavior. I was hoping at this point the only position for the future we would be looking for would be a Center but now I don’t think so. Gabbert needs a true #1 Receiver and consistency he can trust on the O-Line.

by jagswinbig on Oct 31, 2011 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry

I meant Britton being beat out by Whimper at RT and him and Rackley being Rookies on the line.

by jagswinbig on Oct 31, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's less that Britton was beat out by Whimper

and more that the best combination of O-line is Monroe, Britton, Meester, Nwaneri, Whimper. That’s better than Monroe, Rackley/Estes, Meester, Nwaneri, Britton.

Britton has also been fighting injuries recently.

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by Brian Levenson on Nov 1, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whimper is a better pass-blocker than Britton

So I think quality at the RT position was a factor as well

by smy on Nov 2, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

No excuses, he should be playing like all the rest of the rookies. He is in the exact same situation as them right? He should be playing lights out!

by Demetrius82 on Oct 31, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

your an idiot. do we have a steve smith, aj green, or percy harvin?do we have an offensive line like any of those teams? plus fundamentaly, (kinda for cam, hes just a freak) they were more prepared and groomed for the nfl. im not saying that any of those players have more of the potential or physical skills than blaine does but the pre-nfl work and current situation they are in are very different

by remo412 on Oct 31, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm buddy. Calm down.

by Demetrius82 on Oct 31, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, its “you’re” not “your”. Unless you are saying that I have an idiot. In that case, I would like to ask you what that is, and why do you think I have one?

by Demetrius82 on Oct 31, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate people that think they know it all and try to out spell others its a blog man

I bet that makes you a better man for pointing that out right?

Screen To M.J.D Plz

by Jtriban on Nov 1, 2011 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It makes him a better speller...

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by Brian Levenson on Nov 1, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha its all good

im not perfect grammatically, i fully understand that. i just get tired of hearing fans (not trying to single you out, its hard to decipher sarcasm from stupidity haha) expect greatness out of thin air. this team is and has been a work in progress and the I-Demand-Success-Now mentality is just putting more pressure on an already volatile situation. gabbert is only a 22 year old kid who needs work. lets not call him a disappointment just yet. with a little work this guy will be great. now im sick of mediocrity just as much as the next fan but the patriots and the steelers etc. are who they are because they earned it thru solid drafting and thats exactly what we need to do. you gotta be consistent and actually earn success before we should just expect /demand it

by remo412 on Nov 2, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya know

the whole QB coach situation is something I think people are overlooking. This dude seems to experience the greater success when dealing with WRs. Call me crazy, but if Shula were still in Jacksonville, I think Gabbert might be having a little bit more success. Not saying he would not be looking like a rookie, but he would look a tad better than he does now.

by Jagsrok9008 on Oct 31, 2011 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

We have a WR Coach at QB Coach and a guy who has never been a positional coach to my knowledge at WR Coach.

by jagswinbig on Oct 31, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a defensive quality control coach.

by Alfie Crow on Oct 31, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SAME PAGE

Alfie I will ask u this since I think we are on the same page…. These coach choices… New qb coach and wr coach picked by GM gene? Or del rio? Also what’s the REAL reason our qb coach left? More money? He has done a hell of a job with newton. Who dropped the ball on that one? Was it gene or del rio? These are the questions in addition to why are we so behind on our transition to a pass happy offense? I’m going to be pissed if gabbert gets hurt because of our sorry o line.

by Section242 on Oct 31, 2011 8:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Our o line is great at run blocking… Although I still give mjd most of the credit but if u watch any other team compared to ours on tv concerning pass block it’s pathetic!

by Section242 on Oct 31, 2011 8:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Shula didn’t want to be on a one year contract.

by Alfie Crow on Oct 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is actually a good question...

It seems like some really good coaches have come and gone, Greg Williams being one of them. Why did Williams leave, and why did Shula leave? Both left for what amounts to “lateral” moves. I am not saying that Williams would be doing any better of a job than Tucker is right now, but there has to be something to both him and Shula leaving for the same position on different teams. In fact, it seemed like Williams couldn’t wait to get out of town.

by bmacmn on Oct 31, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

POOR MANAGEMENT

Based on alfies response I’m putting the loss of shula on weaver, but overall I’m putting all of this mismanagement on Gene Smith. I don’t expect our organization to be completely mistake free, but Smith has been involved in more significant setbacks than actual successes. I’m not saying del rios a saint, but if we are pointing the finger I’m clearly pointing it at gene.

by Section242 on Oct 31, 2011 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget

Those other QB’s you mentioned came out as seniors. Blaine was a junior, and could have used another good year of getting polished. I just think this has been like the perfect storm setup for failure. Bad receivers, offensive line in constent flux, bad play calling, no OTA’s, a short preason, and just bad bad coaches. What do you expect…I feel bad for the kid. He has potential but way to many road blocks have been set up in front of him to try to overcome.

by Jagrob on Oct 31, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

David Carr?

Lol I never seen a pinyata (sp.?) Er I mean person, get hit so many times in my life! Blaine has much more talent, and o line protection, compared to Carr, but he def was set-up to fail also

by Jags85 on Oct 31, 2011 6:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blaine Gabbert

is only 5 months younger than Cam Newton.

But I don’t care how many yards Cam has thrown for. His team is still 2-6, just like the Jaguars.

by pksiv on Oct 31, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other quarterbacks also has a short preseason and no OTAs. Those aren’t good excuses. Now the bad coaching, horrible play calling and inconsistent play of the o-line and receivers are legit. Also Christian Ponder had 965 passing attempts in 4 years. Blaine had 933 and Cam had 292. The point is Blaine has to do better. There are some throws he has missed at times.

by jacksoro2 on Nov 1, 2011 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again...

We knew that Blaine had work to be done before he should start, it was WELL documented and discussed here and throughout other forums and draft guys. Blaine might have thrown the ball a ton in college, but it was all from the shotgun. The things that he does well are all traits that are better displayed in the offense that he ran at Missouri, he anticipates plays well, throws a good ball and really understand how passing patterns work. Hes not doing that in the pros however, all of his weaknesses are magnified from taking snaps under center. His footwork sucks, he doesn’t read or feel pressure well and his accuracy is directly effected by this.

You can’t compare him to other guys because he is different from them, we have to stay patient and hope for his development.

by jstnblke41 on Nov 2, 2011 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cam Newton spent a grand total of one year playing at Auburn.

Unless you think JuCo ball and riding the pine at UF counts as adequate preparation.

I like to watch.

by MoveThoseChains on Nov 1, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't he one of the youngest qbs to ever start in the NFL?

He just turned 22, came out of school early, had no offseason with the team, and is lacking weapons to throw to. Certainly has legitimate excuses. Just would make me feel a lot better if his problems in the pocket weren’t so glaring.

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by uclatroy on Oct 31, 2011 6:58 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont think anyone would care if he were playing poorly but showed proper mechanics

It is his total lack of proper footwork and his inability to want to step into throws that is driving some fans crazy. I’m assuming it will be fixed over the offseason, but I see him regressing right now.

by Dwalk1217 on Oct 31, 2011 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

This

His footwork is terrible and maybe the QB coaching is not doing anything to correct this. The other issue I have with #11 is he looks scared in the pocket and projects little confidence.

Hopefully the new regime next year (hoping) cleans house with the receiving corps drafts a decent big school wr and signs a FA or two to shore up this glaring weakness. Lastly I wish the media would quit referring to Mercedes Lewis as a all-pro TE. Dude is a dud since his holdout.

Waiting for Relevancy...

by Bombnuke on Oct 31, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not going to correct his footwork

during a normal week of practice when time is spent putting in the game plan. Hopefully Gabbert and some of his WR’s get together during the BYE week and work on their timing.

The one thing that seems to be a constant issue is the QB and WR’s being on the same page as they come out of their breaks. It seems that there is a disconnect between what he’s expecting and what they’re actually doing. When they come out hard and fast, he seems to be expecting them to come out slow, causing the ball to be behind them. When they come out slow, he seems to think they’ll come fast and it looks like the WR gave up on the route.

by pksiv on Oct 31, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or that Gabbert knows where the receivers are but can't put it there withe enough precision

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by Brian Levenson on Nov 1, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, heck.

I’d even take a decent small-school receiver.

by Mahlalie on Nov 1, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That scenario may be more discouraging than encouraging.

At least, from what I understand, we know his lousy footwork is the reason for much of his inaccuracy. We also know footwork, unlike throwing motion or a weak arm, can be corrected. I’m encouraged that an offseason of working on mechanics could lead to vastly improved QB play.

by Mahlalie on Nov 1, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the long run....

Letting him start this year is only going to help. The game is going to slow down once he gets experience. He has all the tools, but he is really, really raw. I also lack confidence in this coaching staff for sure.

Lets face it, the kid isn’t even old enough to rent a car.

by bmacmn on Oct 31, 2011 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

A few days ago

someone posted a link to an analysis of Gabbert using college film. For no apparent reason on one play, he threw off his back foot. It’s obvious he’s been working on it, but his nervousness in the pocket is not helping (31st ranked O-Line?). Through Gabbert’s first six games he’s shown that he’s not always way off when throwing off his back foot (almost always, however) and he’s not the only QB guilty of this. Last Sunday, I witnessed Matt Schaub do it too. Gabbert has also stepped in to many passes so far which produced very accurate throws, like lasers. I’ve also watched him step up in the pocket, and into his throws, only to find DT’s and LB’s in his face. As has been pointed out, he’s had many things working against him, and yes, even his own mistakes. It’s just annoying that people continue to ignore his potential, and the lack of turnovers. Is he winning games? Far from it. Is he losing games? No way.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 31, 2011 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW

Good writeup Adam, I didn’t realize the Jag’s pass-blocking was considered that bad.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 31, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not turning the ball over doesn't mean he isn't losing games

He has great potential. No one is denying that. I don’t even think anyone is making the case that he has not played well at times, because he has.

But when you throw 20 incompletions, you are doing a lot to lose a game. Not producing means not scoring which ultimately means not winning

The article is good though, he gets a pass; he will be the starter next year, and he has shown enough to deserve that. Getting a pass doesn’t mean being above criticism though

by smy on Oct 31, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again

you focus on the negatives. Until last Sunday, he’s been close to 50% completions, with many [flat-out] drops. He’s currently at 45.7%. We are all aware of last Sunday. You’ve got Gabbert so tightly focused under a microscope you’re missing all the factors which are possibly contributing to his poor play. You accentuate the negatives and have not once recognized any positives that make up a [potentially] good QB having a bad rookie season. No one, with any hope for him or this team, needs to be reminded of the obvious. No one is calling him a star, but so many people are dying to mash the “bust” button. Here’s to hoping Gene Smith got one right.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 31, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

have not once recognized any positives

You just don’t read what I write

Its all good man.

by smy on Nov 2, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Article

I especially loved this paragraph

Of course I’m not saying that a quarterback should be making their receivers turn completely around to make the catch, but Gabbert’s accuracy is not so terrible that these balls are uncatchable. In fact, the vast majority of them are; however, the placement on them has to be so precise because his passes must get by defenders that are consistently in position to make a play on the ball.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Oct 31, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

guys, you got something to look forward to

Well, we lost a good guy for the season, so that’s another problem, but we continue to win so we are ok there. I don’t understand all the negativity I’ve read about your QB, cause I think he has potential. Give credit were it is due, the Houston defense is tough this year. All in all, you guys need a receiver or two, and develop a O line. Ours was considered bad, but have been together enough years that they are now considered good due to consistancy and having played together long enough. Once again, you are a small market team, and I applaud and will root for you when you are not playing our division. Great loyal fans, and usually classy as well. Best wishes.

by 1Texan on Oct 31, 2011 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good luck for the rest of the season

Except for that one day in November.

Oh..and expect to se a much, much better Jaguars team in the next few years. As young as they are, it will happen.

by bmacmn on Oct 31, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

for acknowledging Gabbert’s potential, our real issues, and the mystique that is Jaguars.

I'd rather be golfing.

by iodrew on Oct 31, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for your support

Assuming you win the division, I hope to see the Texans bring some upsets against the established/Super Bowl dynasty AFC teams-currently Patriots and Steelers. Win for the Super Bowl-less underdogs.

by Green Bull on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gabbert's passer rating about the same as Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman as rookies

They were all in the low 60s, high 50s, as first year starters. Stafford and Freeman were two of only a handful of QBs in the history of the league to start at a younger age than Gabbert. Those three have turned out all right.

by robert ethan on Oct 31, 2011 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

And both of those

guys had more experience coming out of college and they had full off seasons.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 2, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Freeman

If you remember, Josh Freeman started 10 games for the 4-12 Bucs and threw for 1800 yards, 10 tds to 18 interceptions. Not really great numbers, but the following season he got some new recievers in the draft and led the Bucs to a 10-6 record and improved his numbers to 3400 yards 25tds to 6 ints.

Whose to say Blaine doesn’t do the same, he just needs to improve in the offseason, and if the defense can continue to perform as a top 10 defense, who knows what we can do next year????

By the way, did ANYONE see our recievers being this bad? I mean 31st in the league offensively bad??? If we just had an average offense there is no reason we couldn’t be 5-3 or at least 4-4.

by Stephen Wise on Oct 31, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Freeman's rookie passer rating was 59.8

He didn’t start till around mid season his rookie year, as well. Mark Sanchez had a passer rating of 63 that year as a rookie (and won playoff games), Matt Stafford was 61. Gabbert is at 62 after two of his worst games of the season.

by robert ethan on Oct 31, 2011 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need Pro Bowl Calibre Veterans on OL - Free Agency Next Year

Unless the Jaguars wish to build a team from rookie OLs like we did with Boselli and DeMarco (which took several years to occur), we need veterans on the OL of high calibre with good years ahead of them. Remember Leon Searcy? Also, where are the enforcers on the current OL (like Widell) who personally exact retribution when an opponent takes a cheap shot at our QB (like Cushing did last Sunday)? Next year we need to pick up some great Pro Bowl OL free agents. Does anyone know who will be available? Rookie and sub-par starters on the OL with a rookie QB is a formula for disaster.

by three finger on Oct 31, 2011 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Pro Bowl Caliber

Veteran OL players will be available ? Typically, if they are it’s because they’re no long Pro Bowl caliber. Just like true #1 WR’s… teams don’t let those guys leave very often…. unless there are other concerns. I mean, how has Chad Ochocinco been doing in NE ?

by pksiv on Nov 1, 2011 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you give up a 2nd for him?

by mattarne on Nov 2, 2011 1:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I actually like what the Jags are doing.

I’m pretty new to the Jaguars fanbase, but I live in Miami and see what wretched shape the Dolphins are in at the QB position. Having Gabbert work out his rookie growing pains through an entire season where there’s pretty much no expectations other than a top 10 draft pick. I see a guy who doesn’t make a lot of mental errors with sky high potential to turn into a fantastic Quarterback. Get this kid some weapons and an actual offseason of work and I’m betting you’ve got a real franchise qb for the next decade to look forward to.

by The Longshot on Oct 31, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

We need more fans like yourself.

by Section242 on Oct 31, 2011 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 31, 2011 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Lets get this guy some weapons

I’m willing to give Gabbert 3 more years.

by Catfanatic1979v1 on Oct 31, 2011 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

BTW

Why can’t we bring in some more WR’s that have been cut?

by Catfanatic1979v1 on Oct 31, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

We did = MSW

I know we are looking bad, but how much other people’s trash do we really want?

by CheapSeat on Nov 1, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

they were cut for a reason

by remo412 on Nov 2, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

QUESTION?!?

It is ULTIMATELY the coaches job to put Gabbert in the best situation to win…it really makes our coaches look terrible…Jack/Dirk set back and watch Gene fix the defense and didn’t ask for one WR, RB, OL or any significant player to boost the offense….we as fans have been begging for a big name WR for years….LOL…..as far as Gabbert, if we had Dalton,Ponder or Newton who really believes that they would be having success in this offense?????/

by orecic76 on Oct 31, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

The Jags didn’t need a RB until Jennings Unexpectedly went on I.R.. The O-line was suppose to be better but injuries have made for a make-shift, ungelled line (Manuwai injured/out of shape = released, Spitz who was signed has been injured, britton/monroe also injured), and as far as WR the front office/coaches did drop the ball (no pun intended) with there evaluation of the WR group but there weren’t too many options via free agency to go out and sign.

by Jags85 on Oct 31, 2011 11:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can't sign WRs who aren't there.

I don’t know how many free agent WRs would have made this team better. Also, our receiving corps was expected to be made better by our Pro Bowl TE, but, of course, we all know how that’s working out.

Our O-line hasn’t been as bad as their sack total. Gabbert’s picked up a few of those sacks all on his own. I’ve seen him more than once feel phantom pressure and run right into Eugene Monroe’s assignment.

Jennings got hurt. Karim was expected to play better than his rookie season, not worse. Or do you think Mojo needs to be replaced?

by Mahlalie on Nov 1, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

We could have got Braylon Edwards,

Plaxico Burress, or T.O. now that hes available. Oh wait they have bad attitudes. Never mind.

by JagSoldier on Nov 1, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cause, ya know,

they’ve just been tearing it up this year.

by Mahlalie on Nov 1, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Especially T.O. Studly numbers this year, 0 catches for 0 yards

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by Brian Levenson on Nov 1, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol no thanks

Cecil Shorts has the same EXACT stat sheet

by Jags85 on Nov 1, 2011 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There is no excuse next year to add a proven wide receiver if these guys are available. Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson and Brandon Lloyd will be free agents. I know Gene probably won’t target VJax but if Desean is there I would throw the bank at him. I can understand not going after TO or Randy Moss. Those guys are on the downside and locker room cancers.

by jacksoro2 on Nov 1, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

jeremy maclins contact is coming due . i think

djack is a waste of money

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Nov 1, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really think

Colston and Bowe signed with their original teams due to lack of interest from other teams? Do you realize how rare it is for a really good receiver to part ways with his original team? The only current top-ten receiver to have done that is Wes Welker, and he wasn’t really a big name when the Pats picked him up.

by Mahlalie on Nov 2, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most of those guys

will franchised or re-signed.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 2, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do believe

that this season is for Gabbert to go through all the worst-case scenarios, so that when the good times ahead come – he’ll definitely soar.

Said worst-case scenarios are:
-32nd-ranked offense in the league
-no one to catch the ball.
-sub-par blocking
-horrible field positioning
-games against top-tier defensive teams

ROCK, FLAG and EAGLE!!

by JAGGED_JAG_J on Nov 1, 2011 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

let me add

-“uninspired” coaching

ROCK, FLAG and EAGLE!!

by JAGGED_JAG_J on Nov 1, 2011 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

He contributes to the 32nd ranked offense

thats not a reason for his struggles, its a direct reflection of them.

by jstnblke41 on Nov 2, 2011 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about Koetter?

His play calling has been horrendous. Draws to Karim have killed us numerous times during the season. Not enough usage of Marcedes Lewis over the top or in the flats. Passing when we should run and running when we should pass. He’s not the only problem with the offense but I give him at least half the blame.

by Pocket Hercules 32 on Nov 1, 2011 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Play calling is always bad

when the plays don’t work. If Gabbert and the WR’s could get on the same page and complete more passes, the play calling would be fine.

by pksiv on Nov 1, 2011 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

The playcalling may be the thing that is killing us the most. The calls are easy to predict. If we can figure out the next play as fans imagine what defenses are thinking when they line up against us after studying film all week.

by jacksoro2 on Nov 1, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Banned from Jacksonville.com

I bested a troll named auntsusan in a verbal debate and he flagged my comments as offensive. Oh well this site is much better anyway.

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by MadKow on Nov 1, 2011 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Intelligent life does not exist on Jacksonville.com

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by JagsAlex87 on Nov 1, 2011 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your right

But It was fun to prove them wrong by pointing out the “facts” which most that are on that BS site are unfamiliar with.

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by MadKow on Nov 1, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I have a question?

Why isn’t anyone blaming Weaver?

Look, you either make your decision that this is the guy you want or you move on. You can’t sit on the fence and attempt to have it both ways. I have a problem with the fact that Weaver has been saying uno mas to Del Rio and company.

Look, either you give Del Rio a shot or you don’t. I think Del Rio was kind of screwed this year AGAIN because he was unable to get the coaches he wanted(needed?) because they were only getting 1 year deals. Let me see Del Rio calls me a QB coach(or whatever, just making a point) to coach a “rebuilding team” that got lucky last year with a very tough schedule next year, and I have to uproot my entire family to Jacksonville(not the most enticing city) with a very good possibility I won’t be back next year.

I mean isn’t it a problem that isn’t really Del Rio’s fault? I mean how prepared is Del Rio to handle a rookie QB? It doesn’t appear anyone is ready to handle it. Yet they knew they needed that type of coach this year as they had every intention of drafting a QB this past offseason.

If you look at Del Rio’s supporting cast, it’s pretty bad really. I think Koetter should be doing better and Tucker is doing very well. But the rest of them are pretty out of place, but given the situation why should we be suprised.

I’m starting to believe maybe it isn’t all Del Rio but Weaver putting him in a position to fail that is really taking it’s toll.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Nov 1, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

How many quarterbacks has he gone through?

How many coordinators has he had? At what point does Del Rio become accountable for this team?

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by JagsAlex87 on Nov 1, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But....

If you want to give a chance to succeed you can’t tie a hand a half behind his back. If you are going to do that, then just go ahead and cut him loose last year.

Crappy QB coach- who we really need.
Crappy WR coach- who we OBVIOUSLY need.

Del Rio doesn’t really coach either of those positions, and they appear to be the worst positions on the team.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Nov 1, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Del Rio said to Gene that he couldn't win with Garrard

That’s the whole point. He made his choice, and he’s gonna have to live with it. There’s only one constant in the last 9 years why this team hasn’t taken the next step, and it’s Del Rio.

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by JagsAlex87 on Nov 2, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will never say a bad thing about weaver

Even if he’s in the wrong.

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 2, 2011 8:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Quality coaching staff

Our offense suffers from lack of help from our coaching staff. We have an OC that doesn’t know how to coach a rookie, a WR coach that has less experience than his wideouts, a QB coach that is a WR coach and a head coach that is defensive minded. A quality coaching staff can help a lot. Look at the 49ers, a new coaching staff is doing great with the same talent and qb as last years team. We have as much talent as them but no talent on the offensive side of the coaching staff. Our rookie qb needs a coach that knows his strengths and weaknesses and can coach him on his mistakes. For example Alex smith, look at him now. He has that coaching staff that is really helping him become a good qb. We need that next year for our offense and BG to be successful.

by Marshall856 on Nov 1, 2011 1:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Play of the offensive line

Actually you need to back and look at the tape of the Ravens game Will Rackley had his best game he also had a good game agianst the Texans I watched both those games and Rackley played really well go back and watch the tape. Whimper how ever has started to regress.

by Robert93 on Nov 1, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

Whimper has been dealing with an injury as of recently however.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 2, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so why don't you go out and

rent TO for the rest of the season. at least it will give him a decent receiver to throw to. help build his confidence. TO just wants to play ball.

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Nov 1, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Because

37 year-old receivers don’t recover enough from a torn ACL in seven months to play their position effectively.

by Mahlalie on Nov 1, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

TO would probably fight for “alpha male” status, and risk hurting the confidence of Gabbert. You never want a wide receiver who wants to be in charge of your franchise quarterback.

by Green Bull on Nov 2, 2011 2:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It's all about

chemistry, and I don’t think we would risk messing up chemistry for questionable potential. Not that I wouldn’t sign him. But I’m not completely aware of all the people and their personalities.

by Ewdtrey on Nov 2, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really seeing any "chemistry" right now.

TO did great last year. he shut his mouth and caught the ball. i think the man is so late in his career that he just wants to play ball. he couldn’t do any worse than what you have now.

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Nov 2, 2011 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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