Jaguars Vs. Colts Final: Jacksonville Wins Ugly
by Alfie Crow on Nov 13, 2011 4:10 PM EST
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PrintThe Jacksonville Jaguars picked up their third win of the season, knocking off the Indianapolis Colts 17-3. It was a rough game that was tied 3-3 at half time, and outside of Maurice Jones-Drew and a couple of runs by Colts running back Donald Brown for a few runs, neither teams offense could do much of anything. The Colts drive started off with a bad interception by Curtis Painter that was picked off by Drew Coleman. Rookie quarterback Blaine Gabbert however, gave the ball right back with another interception of his own.
The game picked up in the second half offensively for the Jaguars, as the Jaguars defense continued to suffocate the Colts offense. Until garbage time when Dan Orlovsky replaced Painter at the end of the game, the Jaguars had held the Colts to just 145 total yards. Defensive end Jeremy Mincey ended the game with 2.5 sacks, including a forced fumble, as the Jaguars sacked the Colts quarterbacks 5 times.
The Jaguars offense did wind up mounting a real drive, that was capped off by Blaine Gabbert connecting with wide receiver Jarrett Dillard for the touchdown. The Jaguars second touchdown came after a Mincey sack/forced fumble that was caught by Tyson Alualu, which set the team up in the redzone. Jones-Drew, who once again had over 100 rushing yards, punched the ball in for the touchdown and put the game out of reach.
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Dillard needs get more reps
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:12 PM EST reply actions
very very good hands too
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
i love it how a game like today
has totally changed many people’s percption of Dillard. The love for him was non-existent a few weeks ago. I would like to see him do it again against a remotely decent defensive unit.
A win is a win, but there is not much to be proud of on the offensive side of the ball. This unit is a long way from being a respectable unit.
I've been stressing getting the ball to Dillard all year
it wasn’t just this game
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
not singling you out
just saying that as a whole Dillard has not gotten love on this site in the past, and now all of a sudden he has good hands and runs good routes.
I have always said that he has good hands and routes..
as most of the people on this site, its just we weren’t going to count on him until he stayed healthy and did it on the field.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he looked good today...
but I damn sure don’t apologize for not being a big supporter of his for the last 2 years. The guy has been in the trainers room his previous 2 seasons. Today was his first TD as a Jaguar – we drafted him in 2009 for crying out loud!!!
I hope he does great, but you cant help the club when you are in the tub.
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hey i am "proud" of you for standing by your ground and admitting you were not high on him in the past
Personally I have been a fan of his since he was drafted. I have been upset that he has been hurt and not been on the field. I will say that I have been unimpressed with what I have seen, and today he did fairly well against a historically bad defense. Did today make me more impressed with him? Sure. I am willing to ignore the fact that since he was drafted he has not impressed me to the point that I have had major doubts about him? nope.
Dude still has a long way to go before I start praising his talent.
Well said...
I’m with you 100%.
I still dont know what to think about him, but I will happily eat my words if he shows some playmaking ability.
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I'm a Rice Owls fan.
Have been since the 4th grade, they sent me free tickets to see them play Texas Tech and I liked them ever since. I’ve talked about Dillard’s ability to run good routes several times on this blog. Dillard HAS been getting open, Gabbert just has missed him or not seen him when he is. Like in Pittsburgh when Dillard had a step on his man deep up the middle for a sure TD, but Gabbert over shot him.
Lastly, Dillard is a good, humble player so it’s nice to see him getting some love, why you hating?
I agree
He is a good WR
Also West >>> Shorts…
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
To be fair,
you really haven’t see a lot of Shorts playing receiver
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
He had oppurtunity early in the season.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 13, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
about 2 plays, i guess thats enough
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
You have to question the staff.
Look at today’s leading receivers and where they are on depth.
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Question how they're evaluating.
Hill and Thomas are the number 1 and 2 on the depth chart with no catches or looks today. They let Shorts muff a bunch of punts, but don’t line him at WR. I know he was out today, but let the guy line up for a few plays.
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Oh ok, I got you
Well I guess they knew they were bad at the position and wanted to go with the guys with the most experience, thats all I can think of. But as far as the Punt returning, I have no clue why they asked him to do that in the first place.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
He played more than that
And didn’t do anything
But he is young, receivers often take time to develop
He played D3 folks. It might take 3 years
I know it was the Colts
but I love our defense
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:18 PM EST reply actions
I liked how Gabbert started to use his checkdowns more this game, especially in the 2nd half
The footwork was still really bad at times but it looks to be improving. Nice to see a couple receivers actually get some a little separation too. And the defense was a good as it has been, Mincey was a beast all day.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST reply actions
Resign Mincey and Lowery this offseason
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
Plus Roth
And Scobee!
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 13, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
He got just a 1 year contract for this season.
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by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 13, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gabbert made some bad throws.
But I saw improvement as well. The INT was the type a rookie is gonna make – he just didn’t see the guy coming over.
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I didn't see as many bad throws as in past games
He had a couple that are inexcusable but I see that decreasing and I like it. Now if only we could see some improvement in Lewis
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Lewis.
He supposed be Gabbert’s goto guy. I blame him, and Kotter.
Gabbert’s completion percentage was way better today. Lately, all I care about is seeing him progress. It’s amazing there has been any progress under Koetter’s play-calling. I think this team is capable of more than 200 passing yards a game, and they need that to score points. MJD would get the same yards, with less carries, IMO.
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I agree
I have no clue what Koetter’s gameplan is, it seems like he is just calling whatever and hoping it works.
Lewis has been the biggest disappointment to me, He and MJD were supposed to be the reliable fixtures on this offense, MJD has done his part but Lewis has been non-existent (in the passing game) and when you do see him, he is dropping a ball he should catch.
I think they are capable of 200+ as well, thats why I mentioned Gabbert using his checkdowns, that should help the offense stay on the field more or at least make the defense commit a defender to cover those guys and help open up some guys elsewhere.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
Koetter seems to have no feel for the game while in progress. And, you’re so right. If they would just show that they can and will pass, it would open up other receivers, and the running game. Gabbert was 14 of 21 today with 1TD and 1INT. Let him go make it 28 of 40 with a TD and two picks. Let him learn, and score points.
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The gameplan won, right?
That is enough for me.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Nov 13, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
when you squeak out 17 points against that defense
gameplan is not very good. Koetter is not a good playcaller/gameplanner. He has to go if this unit ever hopes to significantly improve. I can just picture the Jags drafting Alshon Jeffery, and on 3rd and 15 Koetter calling a draw with Karim instead of letting Jeffery go up and grab a ball 20 yards downfield
Is it the game plan or is it the talent?
Honestly, is there a receiver who can consistently get open AND catch the ball on a 3rd and 15?
What more can Koetter do with what he has? I’m sure he’d love to have a guy like Jeffrey for Gabbert to get the ball to, as well.
by Alfie Crow on Nov 13, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The lack of talent is striking.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 13, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
It won
but they need to be effective week to week not just squeeze by against the colts
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Your divorced from reality
MJD has been getting yards without too many carries
As I posted in another thread, the more carries the better for our chances
Its very clear.
You want more Gabbert. I don’t know why.
I've been saying since
Lewis got in the league. He’s not good at catching those quick passes that travel less than about 13 yards in the air. If you are gonna throw him short passes, do it when he’s out wide, but preferably he should be catching deep seam passes or flag routes.
It was an ugly win,
thanks again to Kotter.
One thing though, West and Dillard showed they should be 1 and 2.
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Get Thomas in the slot
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I agree…..West, Dillard, Thomas next week to start! 3rd downs MJD! punts – Thomas.
by orecic76 on Nov 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't get ahead of yourself
Dillard can probably make the move to starter outside, but West is a one trick pony right now.
Eagles lose again
Jags and Eagles both 3-6
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions
I'll take the win. Saw some stuff I liked.
- Gabbert made some crappy short throws, but the TD and the long completion across the middle were both great throws. He also used his RBs better as checkdowns, and seems to have learned when to avoid unecessary contact and head to the sidelines. He is progressing.
- Dillard and West looked good. West on the slant and Dillards speed off the line opened him up for that TD.
- Jeremy Mincey is a good player. Like his play.
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On the flip side...
I, personally, have no use for Deji Karim. I realize Jennings being hurt ties our hands, but I really don’t think Karim is a good player.
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I like Deji in the screen game and on some outside runs
but nothing else
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by tiquanunderwear on Nov 13, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
karim is good as a checkdown reciever,scatback i guess, that was clutch on his third down checkdown reception, he cant run between the tackles.
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That is exactly what he is
Its not that is he a bad player, he just has to be used correctly. Run him outside and throw him screens
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think Jag fans have been spoiled by MJD
He doesn’t go down easy, he just isn’t Jones-Drew
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 13, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
I think it has something to do with the OL. The OL is decent, but MJD makes them look better than they really are. Most RB’s not name MJD or Peterson would look unspectacular.
dude no it's 3rd and long and deji draw play...3 times in one game
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What about Richard Murphy from our practice squad?
by orecic76 on Nov 13, 2011 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know he's on IR
but I liked the couple of runs he got in preseason. He looked quick and seemed to find the hole. If he added like 20 ibs., he’d Ferd Taylor’s size. Not comparing anything else though.
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It shouldn't be this way.
They played scared to lose – nothing new. They’re scared to throw the ball and rarely have a double digit lead.
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I agree
Gabbert isnt getting near enough pass attempts. We run it 3 times then he passes once them 3 more runs them one more pass. How do you get a pasing offense to gel like that? And one more thing, why doesnt any of the fullbacks get a chance to carry the ball? Im sick of the deji draw.
by JagSoldier on Nov 13, 2011 4:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Get a two possession lead, then run the ball.
I don’t know about the FB’s but Montel Owens has shown in the past that he can run a little.
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The talent isn't very good
I’d rather play like this and have somewhat of a shot against most teams we play then airing it out and getting beat every time by the teams that are better then us, which is most of them.
This is crazy
The biggest problem is not enough carries in some games
Be happy, the jags won
They won because of MJD
That is the only way it will happen this season
Deal with it
Gabbert has thrown the ball a lot in his 7 starts. The less he throws. the better our chances of winning
Stats are clear
stat: colts gave up 16 sacks their first 9 losses
jags had five today
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This team has potential
To make lemonade out of crap is nice. There are some issues but maybe make a trade for Jim Zorn. The Jags wanted him which means they were trying to make changes but KC made a bigger offer.
by Casey Byron Adkins on Nov 13, 2011 5:40 PM EST reply actions
Jim Zorn?
Really? With the year Cassel is having?
by BrotherFlounder on Nov 13, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Haha.
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