Thunder64's Jaguar OffSeason
by Thunder64 on Nov 23, 2011 5:53 PM EST
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Release/Dont resign
Brock Bolen(practice squad)
Fendi Onubun(practice squad)
TJ Heath(Practice Squad)
Resign
CJ Mosely
Comments: The most shocking here is letting Mathis go in Free Agency. Mathis will demand high money and is frankly not worth it coming off of a ACL tear and aging. I think we keep Robiskie as I except him to finish the season good if he gets healthy. The others are pretty much obvious as to why resigning or releasing a certain player.
Free Agency
WR- Dwayne Bowe 5 years 30 million 6 a year
OL- Ben Grubbs 5 years 28 million 5.6 a year
DE-Mario Williams 5 years 50 Million 10 a year
Comments- With the current cap room as high as 29 million and the draft now being guaranted money and low contracts I see Gene Smith dishing out the big money here. The projectd signings would equivalte to the Jags being around 10 million under the cap with the draft to go. Bowe is a blossoming young prospect who will be Gabbert's best friend in the future. Grubbs can play inside or out allowing us to either have a strong and dependable G or T. Then, with the signing of Mario Williams the Jags build a D-Line not to mess with. Mario I belive likes the 4-3 more and was a dominant force of the edge in it in Houston before Wade Phillips got there. The Jags again make a big splash in Free Agnecy.
Draft
1st-Morris Claiborne CB LSU
2nd-Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
3rd- Tyderke Powell DT UNC
4th- William Vlachos C UA
5th- Brandon Bolden RB Miss
6th- Sean Powell P FSU
7th-Lowery Trade
Comments- With Mathis Leaving and the WR depth being so strong I think the Jags go ahead and take the best Defensive Player in my opinion and certaintly a huge need in CB with Claiborne. In the Second, Marvin McNutt is an absolute stud. He has the 30 less catches then Justin Blackmon but he has the same stat line, with just three less TD grabs. Also, he is 3 inches taller. In the third, I went with seemingly not a huge need at DT. Even though not a huge need the Defensive Line is where championships are won and Powell rotating in for 15-20 snaps a play would be beneficial to this Defense. In the 4th, Vlachos out of Bama will be our future center. Even with the resigning of Estes, I think the Alabama center will easily take the starting job when Meester is done. In the 5th, Bolden is a big powerful back with some speed. He will a benefit in the 4th quarter in bringing him in to wear down Defenses. Powell the punter out of FSU is the Nations leader in Punt Average. Even though Nick Harris is doing well this guy can pin teams down inside the five with ease. He also can rugby punt(take notes Matt Turk).
Coaching- Its Del Rio's time to go and the Jags need to hire a strong willed head coach with a very good O Coordinator to teach Gabbert.
Thats it guys I think if this unfolds the way I projected we will be playing more than 16 games next season.
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As I was reading this..
I was thinking, “ok, I don’t agree with a lot of this but I can respect your thought process” but then I got to the end and you mentioned Mike Singletary as head coach… at that point, I completely changed my mind about this post.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 23, 2011 6:43 PM EST reply actions
What dont you agree with and Singletary was my thought at the moment there can be alot of others I would like the Main thing I want is to get Del Rio out.
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Mainly
Its the Ben Grubbs thing, I’ve only seen him play guard, so if they were to sign him, they would asking him to change positions and that doesn’t normally work out to well.
With the cuts, I think with Onobun, you would have to keep him on your roster, his size and athleticism makes me think he won’t last long on the practice squad.
And Even if they draft another DT, I think they will give Smith one last shot to try and stay healthy, they aren’t really deep at the position so I can’t really hurt.
I like the draft for the most part, Love Claiborne, Love McNutt, like the DT and the Punter but I can’t see them drafting a center if they like Estes as much as they say and can’t see a RB being taken with Jennings coming back.
Signing Williams would be great. The DE position would be really interesting going into training camp: Williams, Kampman, Roth, Mincey, Chick, Lane, Morgan, Schiechl, and possibly Selvie.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 24, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
With Grubbs
I said he could play either. I do think I would play LG though. Estes could possibly be the next center I don’t know but I favor Vlachos. Then with Onubun and Smith those can go either way they both could possibly be on the roster.
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by Thunder64 on Nov 24, 2011 11:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know you said he can play either but one is his specialty
I’m not so sure how good he can be at RT full time. And with Estes, I can only really go with what I’ve read, we don’t get to see centers unless they are playing so I can’t say one is better than the other, just have to go from what I have heard.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 24, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Estes maybe could be a stud I dont know. Vlachos is one of my favorites in this draft. So I mocked him.
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Cool.
I don’t care which one it is, I just hope they play as long and consistent as Meester has
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 24, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Same I dont care who the heck it is if they even compare to Meester Im goood.
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Why hire Singletary when we can get Dikka or some other once-upon-a-time coach?
Your head coach doesn’t have to be an offensive for your QB to be successful. All you need is a good QB coach and an OC who knows when, where and how to maximize his talents. (See Dungy\Manning, Belichik\Brady, Shula/Unitas/Marino, etc)
Section 442, RIP
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by unhipcat on Nov 25, 2011 3:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No way we get Williams
I was born into the Purdue and Miami family, became a Jaguars fan after moving to Jacksonville and adopted the Royals as my baseball team.....All of my teams are kinda bad....
by tiquanunderwear on Nov 23, 2011 9:02 PM EST reply actions
I love this,
but unlikely we get 3 top free agents.
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You are wrong on Sing
Niners for the most part have the same team they did under Sing and suddenly they are looking quite good. Stay far away from that man as he is a terrible coach. I literally had major arguments with my brother, a 49er fan, over whose team had the worse coach.
Alright then really didnt know. I just saw him as a good man and thought to be good coach as well. I will update the coach section.
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please do
lol. Otherwise it is a wee bit optimsitc but i guess i like it. Might prefer a guy like Kendall wright or sanu or dwight jones in the 2nd but the claiborne pick has me in 7th heaven
by Jagsrok9008 on Nov 23, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I think Alex Smith's new found good play is their difference
but I agree Singletary is an awful coach
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 24, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
JAG OFF-SEASON
I would keep both d Anthony smith and mathis ……both should come cheaper and would be good depth guys …… Our D line would be set with Mario Williams and we would dominate people every game ……. On offense with the addition of Bowe and Mcnutt , we would have legit receivers that can be game-changers , add them to M80 , Lewis , MJD and a seasoned Gabbert and we got something rolling here in jax-town ……. JAG NATION TIME TO DOMINATE IN 2012 …… BOTTOM LINE son !!!
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Mario Williams? Or has this become a fantasy football site, too?
We are not getting Mario Williams.
Section 442, RIP
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by unhipcat on Nov 25, 2011 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not necessarily in order of importance ...
He’s a pro bowler; he’s coming off a season-ending injury; if he becomes a free agent he’ll attract league-wide attention, the Jags are somewhat gun-shy about signing players coming off serious injury (see Kampmann); the Texans will do everything in their power to retain him, and if he does somehow make it availability for the Jags, his pricetag will be very, very high.
Section 442, RIP
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by unhipcat on Nov 25, 2011 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ok we have the Money
We signed Kampmann so I really dont see your point. I beleive Mario favors the 4-3 Defense so We get a plus there. It really could go either way but this is a scenario I could see.
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My point is that Kampmann has probably made them a bit gun-shy about signing guys coming off serious injuries
and that Williams will probably be unavailable for at least two reasons: one, the Texans will keep him or two, there will be significant interest that will put Williams out of the Jags price range.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
by unhipcat on Nov 25, 2011 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We have 30 million. We have a huge price range.
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by Thunder64 on Nov 25, 2011 6:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if williams hits the open market, he'll sign for more than $30 million
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