Del Rio Says Dirk Koetter Didn't Want A Timeout
by Alfie Crow on Nov 28, 2011 12:01 PM EST
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The Jacksonville Jaguars had themselves in a situation against the Houston Texans late, where if they converted a 4th-and-2 it's possible the drive could have continued with a chance to tie the football game. Luke McCown and the Jaguars offense rushed to the line, in lieu of calling a time out, and got a play off. The pass from McCown fell incomplete and the Texans were able to kneel the clock out. Many fans in the stands, on Twitter, and in the comments post game wondered why the Jaguars didn't call a time out in that situation and instead chose to rush a play off on such a critical down.
Dirk Koetter didn't want to call a timeout, apparently.
"I asked [offensive coordinator] Dirk [Koetter] do you want a timeout there and he said no. That's why," Del Rio said after the game. This once again looks like Del Rio quasi-throwing someone else under the bus, but he wasn't. I'm told however, that Koetter in fact did not want a timeout on the play. Koetter had caught the Texans defense in "zero" coverage and a time out would have let them adjust. Koetter was trying to catch them in "zero" coverage, but the play simply wasn't executed.
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So, let me see if I have this straight...
Mel Tucker took over calling every defensive play this season, and Koetter tells JDR what happens on offesnse?
So, why is JDR here again?
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Del Rio may be a lot of things,
but a coward is almost certainly not one of them.
by Shane Clemons on Nov 28, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
a man who throws everybody under the bus
to try to save his ass is a coward in my mind. on the field he was tough but as a cough he is a coward
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by Jaggaholic82 on Nov 28, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Who is he throwing under the bus ?
Koetter calls the plays. It makes sense that the guy calling the plays is in the best position to know when he wants a timeout or not.
dirk koetter
where have you been?
and he coulda just said. im the head coach i should have called a timeout cuz im in charge of this team and knows whats best for it.
but instead he just says anything negative to do with the offense is dirks fault
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by Jaggaholic82 on Nov 28, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's the point you're missing
It’s not an automatic position to call a time out. Obviously there’s a reason Dirk didn’t want one.
When a play fails there are a million reasons you can speculate as to why but just because the play failed doesn’t mean it would’ve worked had a time out been called.
this isnt the first time this has happened though
he has called him out multiple times this year. that shows me that he is just trying to throw his OC under the bus because he is desperate. a cowardly move
Cold Blooded
by Jaggaholic82 on Nov 28, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
So let's get this straight.
Del Rio lets the OC decide whether to take a timeout when the offense is on the field, and that means he’s throwing Koetter under the bus? Would you rather he deflects questions instead of answering them honestly? Being a great HC is about delegating power effectively. Koetter didn’t want a time out so they didn’t take one.
by Shane Clemons on Nov 28, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
let me just ask you this. if they took a timeout and it worked out for the jags, in his presser would JDR have gone out of his way to credit koetter with the decision to call a timeout? ima guess not
but it didnt work out and hes going out of his way to put the responsibility of the offenses bad decisions(not running mjd, clock management a couple weeks back and this week) solely on koetter
if you dont see that you are blind
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by Jaggaholic82 on Nov 28, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
but honestly this particular situation isnt what i have a problem with
letting koetter try to catch the texans with no safeties would have been fine if time wasnt a time constraint
i just have a problem that our HEAD COACH constantly says our OC has a massive amount of power when JDR could make the critical decisions. i just think its a cop out and a way for JDR to try to save face in front of WW
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by Jaggaholic82 on Nov 28, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Actually it makes sense
Koetter would have a better view of the field from the box, so if Dirk sees a favorable defense, he would want to take advantage of that. The problem is neither Dirk nor Jack realize we have the worst offensive unit in the NFL and asking them to preform anything other than a handoff to MJD is difficult and sometimes problematic.
No it doesn't make sense. We literally huddled up last week and wasted 25 seconds at the end of the game at the goaline but here we run up an snap the ball in 2.7 seconds. I thought luke was go
To spIke the ball to stop the clock
by Slawsc on Nov 28, 2011 12:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He signaled for it at first, but realized his mistake and called off the spike.
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by Brian Levenson on Nov 28, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that it makes sense
He has an OC who is orchestrating a drive and is in the flow of things. The HC is the CEO, not the line Manager. Of course he can always over rule the OC but in this instance maybe Dirk felt he had a favorable match up and calling a Time out would allow the Texans a chance to substitute.
It obviously didn’t work but I can see acceptable logic in JDR asking Dirk what he wanted.
Really doesn’t matter since they’re all gone anyway.
However, if I'm a shareholder (fan for this example)
I don’t give a rat’s ass that the transportation manager shipped my crate of jorts to Paris, Texas instead of Paris, Tennessee. I just want my damn jorts! And someone’s head will roll because I don’t have said jorts.
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are you serious?
and you’re a fan of the Jags?
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by Joe Fisher on Nov 28, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he's just a fan of Cowher.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 12:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
no dingleweed, just not an idiot who says, move those chains or duval, two dumbest things I have seen at an nfl game.. but i sit right behing the opposing teams and they always have a good laugh about it though
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
There's no way you're from Jacksonville or Florida and don't know what jorts are.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 12:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i am from jax, all my life, if they are jean shorts though, i just stay away, they are bad for everyone
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
just for you, I'm wearing them Monday night
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matter of fact in my avatar, they're under my grass skirt
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Please tell me you jest.
Jorts are the official uniform of that wonderful American species known as the Redneck. its a compound word combining Jean shorts" into jorts.
As an aside, I saw in Target the other day that they have carpenter jorts!!!
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there is
one of the many homes of Hank Williams Jr,
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just because I like his music doesn’t mean I share his views
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I'm pretty sure nobody gets fired
at FedEx, UPS, Delta, United etc… every time they lose a package or someone’s luggage.
The point is, the guy calling the plays is in the flow of the game. The HC, unless he’s also and active Offensive guy, is right to ask. It didn’t work. A lot of things with this offense don’t work.
If anything this is further evidence that JDR isn’t holding Dirk Koetter back. If there’s one thing holding him back right now it’s talent. But it’s still going to be new coaches all around next year.
I once lost a $5000 bonus because one of my clerks failed to deliver brake parts to the Honeywell Plant in Panama City, FL on time and I then had to pay triple to expedite the load from Ontario.
You think that was a fun conference call? Couldn’t drag her out there to take the call.
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Brake pads, eh?
You’re drivin’ along, la-de-da, woo. All of a sudden there’s a truck tire in the middle of the road. And you hit the brakes. EEEEEEEEE! Whoa, that was close. Ha-ha. Now let’s see what happens when you’re driving with the “other guy’s” brake pads. You’re drivin’ along, you’re drivin’ along, the kids start shouting from the back seat, “I gotta go to the bathroom, Daddy!” “Not now, damn it!” Truck tire. EEEEEEEE! I CAN’T STOP!
There’s a cliff! AAAAAHH! And your family’s screaming,
“Oh my God, we’re burning alive!” “No! I can’t feel my legs!” Here comes the meat wagon. And the medic gets out and says, “Oh my God”. New guy’s around the corner puking his guts out.
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by JPQ! on Nov 28, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that was me
Did third party logistics for Bendix Brakes. Before that, I shipped palm trees to theme parks and then train wheels for CSX. One time out at the Baldwin train depot, I told one of the truckers his truck was pretty with all these flame decals on it and he proceeded to dose my bowl of grits with half a bottle of Tabasco.
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this turned into an absolutely classic conversation
today, much more so than yesterday, I am proud to be a Jags fan
by JohnnyBiceps on Nov 28, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I Am sick and tired of hearing the word execute in terms of football
Every post game interview you got a bunch of guys saying “we didn’t execute out there today”. Execute this execute that. I haven’t wasted my time to see what Pinto Stone Hands said about his drop in the end zone but I am sure it was something to the effect of how he didn’t execute the catch.
by Slawsc on Nov 28, 2011 12:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
No offense Alfie
But the only report I want to hear from you today is you breaking the news that Del Rio has been fired! Heard there was a news conference at 3 today, is that the same as any monday or could this be a special one?
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 12:28 PM EST reply actions
Hopefully it is some type of chamber of comerence meeting with jack attending
by Slawsc on Nov 28, 2011 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
exactly
btw… i was kidding about the execute comment, i feel your frustration…
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
There’s always a press conference on Monday afternoon.
by Alfie Crow on Nov 28, 2011 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Local new made reference to big changes coming, tune in at 3
I figured we would hear it from you if it was out there, guess they are desperate for a story
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
big changes for the Jags?
I know it’s a catch line, but can you throw some more?
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CBS 47 news at 12
said big changes and answers to the future of the jags coming up at 3 at a press conference from everbank, tune in to see what is in store for the future of the jags
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
in your opinion
what good does it do to keep him til years end? would it not snd a better message to the team and the fans by pating ways now, as well as getting the jump on other teams courting new coaches?
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
All it is is bloodletting.
You have to pay him either way. He hasn’t lost the team. That’s why coaches get fired mid-season, because they lose the players. Del Rio hasn’t lost that.
What good would firing him do now? Sell some tickets for Monday? Then what happens when you lose on Monday?
by Alfie Crow on Nov 28, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
fire the next guy!
I see your point, and it’s a shame that Jax is the poster child for attendance issues. But, it is what it is.
Hell, in Cincy, they have a damn good team who is getting quite a few #1s in the next couple of years in a rookie scale era, They have the potential, if they massage their cap number the correct way to be a team on par with the Patriots or Colts of the past 10 years. Fans there play the “I don’t trust Mike Brown” card and the national media is fine with it.
I do, however, think that Del Rio has lost the coaches and it’s on Weaver.
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Mike Brown is in a category of his own in the Bad Ownership Hall Of Fame, but the shine’s really coming off Weaver, too.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 1:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
he may not have lost the team per say
but he has lost most fans, coaches, and any respect this team had nationally, i think that is enough to lose. by keeping him til seasons end i see nothing to gain at all, and only more to lose, and i think the players would benefit more from him being gone, not to mention, the fans would definately buy more tickets just to show support for doing the right thing
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
You just made Alfie’s point. Firing him is about the fans. Keeping him is about the good of the team, which most certainly is still listening to him. National respect? Firing your coach midseason doesn’t get you respect. Winning gets you respect, and this team isn’t going to be a winning team this season no matter who’s the head coach.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 2:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
for one i am not disagreeing with alfie
and national respect i meant at one point we were a respected team, not the laughing stock or punch line for broadcasters.
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
What more do you lose by keeping him until seasons end?
The fans would maybe buy tickets for Monday night. Will they keep buying tickets if the team is still losing, just because Del Rio isn’t there?
Honestly
I feel he pulled gabbert wrongly, he and keotter obviously don’t see eye to eye, every week we are progressively looking worse offensively, the players are getting down on themselves, blaine, who is capable, is now going to be pressing in fear of being yanked out again. and not only would fans buy mondays game, but like i said without a doubt more tickets for each of the remaining games.. and i am not all that sure that he hasn’t lost the confidence of his players, these are not the type of guys to speak out, because they are nobodies in this league, besides mojo, and that would not look good on their resume. And maybe they would run more of an offense geared toward gabberts strengths rather than this predictable boring unproductive offense we are now running, it has worked for other rookies, but he expected blaine to do it his way in order to save his job, which leads to the pressure the players feel knowing his job is on the line when they take the field.
by CoachCowherPlease on Nov 28, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
the Jags win Monday night
I have a feeling. And it’s not the itchy feeling from the bed bugs that ate me alive this weekend down in Baja. SD is a team on the fast track to terrible, not to mention they play awful when they’re on the right coast. Hell, someone’s gonna have to win the game
by JohnnyBiceps on Nov 28, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
It could end in a tie......
If there ever were two teams that could find a way for neither to win the game….these may be the two!
I get your point.
But we’re not talking about who’s starting at QB. If Del Rio was packing this morning it would’ve spread faster than a Florida wildfire.
Throw the ball, score points.
Again, Dirk,
if your gonna put the game in the QB’s hands on one play, give him some options – rollout, QB draw, QB sneak. Receivers don’t just suddenly get open when the game is on the line.
Throw the ball, score points.
Not to mention
It was almost an identical play as the end of the game agst Cleveland. Mike Thomas and his short arse over the middle getting the opportunity to go up high and make a play.
DK needs to go with JDR……his play calling is beyond suspect……not mention his use of MJD.
I am starting to think.....
that one man’s “throwing someone under the bus” is another man’s “restating what happened”. I guess its all in how you look at it.
I don't see many HCs defer to their coordinators publicly like JDR does.
Reid has taken the heat for Castillo quite a bit in Philly and it will probably cost him his job. Last coach I recall passing the buck like this was Singletary to the OC
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Lets see....
Singletary gone and threw OC under the bus…Reid most likely gone and did not throw OC under the bus. Two approaches with the same conclusion. Common thread, both teams are not (were not) winning. I can not imagine being a head coach, or leader of any organization, and not having supreme decision making authority. That being said, if JDR wanted a time out, then he should have taken the time out. If he does not call one, then he in a sense agrees with Koetter and should not have said anything. I guess my questions is does JDR have final decision authority?
I think he just trusts his OC to have a better idea of what to do offensively, since he is not an offensive coach.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and the OC is calling the plays
so has the best idea of his thought process and when he’ll want to use them.
Ultimately, the record falls on JDR but trusting his OC when he wants to call time outs at the end of the game actually makes sense to me.
Joe....
If the system is set up for that call to be the responsibility of Koetter, then there is no reason for JDR To state it any other way. The fact of the matter is that I do not know who has what responsibility for what. Please do not take this as a defense of JDR across the board, but I am not going to lay something on him that is not his fault.
I see your point and will respond to you in kind... with respect because that's how you approach things as well,
Bottom line is this is a results driven business. This organization is teetering on apathy, which is scary.
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Just curious
but why would you say “This organization is teetering on apathy” ? They’re not winning which sucks for everyone but I don’t see people who aren’t trying. They’re just out matched.
Watch the Houston Texans the next few weeks. How many more games do you think they’ll win with that rookie at QB ?
I don't see the apathy either
At least not on this site. Hell, there are new posters coming out of the woodwork, if only to scream “fire everyone.” Ether way, people seem to still care…for now. More concerning would be silence
by JohnnyBiceps on Nov 28, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
with 2 of the top 5 offensive weapons nearing full strength
and Ben Tate, not to mention a stout D, he’ll win a couple then flame out in the playoffs. And I think that would have been the case with Schaub.
As for the apathy, I think people are just getting tired of lip service, whether from Weaver, JDR, Gene Smith or the players. Apathy was the crowd yesterday.
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Actually, Joe, I disagree about yesterday.
I was actually impressed with the crowd yesterday – as far as being into the game. It was loud on defense and were loudly booing Marcedes after his awful, wide open drop. I don’t know about the number of people there, but I was happy with how into the game everyone was.
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For the most part I agree
The crowd did what it was supposed to do when it was supposed to do it. I.E. Boo Marcedes, cheer loud for the defense on 3rd down and scream criticism from every teal seated coach. But it was an apathetic crowd in the sense that no one I talked to there, thought we were going to win. It was all am “if we win, it’ll be a nice surprise” attitude. That’s pretty apathetic. They didn’t care if we won or not.
Well, realistically, thats actually the truth.
It would have been a nice upset if we won. We were 3.5 point dogs at home, whih means Vegas figures we are gonna lose by 6 (if we factor in the home field 3 pts).
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just seems like a natural thing for a defensive minded coach to do.
If he’s usually not involved with the offense, it makes sense to ask the OC things, just in case. I think other defensive-minded coachesa around the league are just more discreet, whereas JDR just is telling it like it is.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
on 4th and dumb did Coach Hoodie blame his OC?
Belichick is a defensive wizard by the way.
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He’s also more of a control freak in general.
JDR has to know by now that he’s getting fired no matter what. There’s no longer any incentive for him to say anything besides what happened. He doesn’t need to be tactful to land a nice DC job next year or the year after.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 1:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
true, but there was a perfect out and he fell on his sword.
That’s management 101
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What looks like bad coaching often times is bad execution.
This is the case now, and this has mostly been the case this season.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
In other news, Peyton Manning has a son...
Who knew? I for one am glad the State of Indiana is allowing people of Peyton’s orientation adopt. Good for them!
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Hahaha...Im just poking fun.
I have no idea what Peyton Mannings sexual orientation is. But, he does have a son.
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he had twins last year
his wife did anyway.
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Imagine giving birth to two Peyton-sized foreheads
Ouch
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
If you ain't first, you're last.
For what it is worth.....
Peyton and his wife Scott (just Kidding….its Ashley) have twins….a boy and a girl!
If the stadium is empty Monday night....
it is not the teams fault…it is the fault of any fan that can afford to go, and does not. That is a fact!
here's the civic pride vs. dissatisfaction with product argument
Say I’m a Kenny Rogers fan (I am). Seen him in concert 20 times, have his movies on DVD. Say he makes Six Pack 2 but this time instead of a group of orphans, he is hooked up with a group of manatees and there are love scenes. Do I have to go even if I know the movie is box office poison?
Fans vote by way of their wallets. Sadly, we don’t have 55,000-75,000 true blues. Wish we did. But the reality of the situation is people would rather get something for their hard earned money besides disappointment.
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very true
If not for a new house, I’d have bought season tickets. As it is, I’ve missed 2 games.
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First off...
you blew me away by stating your allegiance to Mr. Rogers (the country one)! Secondly, having not seen Six Pack (I assume a movie), I am equally disturbed by a movie showing love scenes between Kenny and orphans as I am love scenes with a manatee!
All joking aside, I can sympathize with the new home purchase, and there are many financial reasons not to go to the games. I will stand by the fact that if you choose to not go to the game for any other reason than you can not afford to go (assuming no emergency has come up and you have no truly important event involving family and / or friends), you are not a “true Blue” as you so eloquently put it, and if we don’t have enough “true blues” in town, than Jacksonville, like many other cities, may not be the right place for an NFL team. There is so much more to the game day experience than the win……..
by GAJAGFAN on Nov 28, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
but... there are those true blues who simply cannot afford to get into the stadium
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I understand....
and I have no problem with other bills coming in front of the cost of tickets. That being said, the fact remains that is the area can not support the team through ticket sales, them maybe it is not the right area for a team. It would sadden me if I Jags left the area.
the case can be made in Cincy, Tampa, Miami, KC looked less than full last night, San Diego, Oakland, etc.
I think Jax is a great spot, but Weaver was so timid in the early going that he felt the fanbase could be cultivated within the 4 county area. I made the point earlier that the Jags radio network only goes as far west as Valdosta. That’s awful.
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and in Six Pack, a young Diane Lane played Breezy, the sassy 18 year old caretaker
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At least the kids were safe.....
And lets get together over a beer and discuss the many faces of Kenny Rogers!
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Who started this Mark Duffner as interim HC rumor?
Anything to it? Curious as to where it originated…if anyone has info.
I think it was more a product of process of elimination
If Shula were still here, he might have been the guy.
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I don't know...
but I will be calling him “Duff Man” if he gets the job.
Actually, I will call him that even if he doesn’t…its just that no one will notice if I call the LB coach by a funny name.
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by JPQ! on Nov 28, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ugh
So many terrible decisions by this staff. Where is Kassim Osgood ad WR? Is he terrible? I haven’t even seen them give him an attempt. I may be wrong. Just a thought.
D. L. Zook
by zookdev on Nov 28, 2011 12:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I do not care what really went down
the fact that JDR says he asked his OC whether to take the TO or not indicates to me the JDR is a very poor HC.
i just googled it and for the record,
Peytons wifes name really is Scott.
When the offense wasn't executing early..
Everyone bashed him and said he was holding back koetter.. Now he defers to his OC to make an offensive call, they don’t execute and you blame him again…
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 28, 2011 3:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Actually, this pointed out Del Rio wasn’t throwing Koetter under the bus here. Did you read what was written, or just go right to the comments?
My bad
I didnt mean you. I meant the fire del rio mob.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Nov 28, 2011 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Based on most of the comments
I don’t think anyone else read it either. I know I stopped after reading “Dirk Koetter didn’t want to call a timeout, apparently.” you’re usual style is to bash everyone so I assumed that’s where you were going.
Funny thing is, in the comments I’m defending exactly what you explained in that last paragraph…. Smh.
Good game Jags.
Have to put our faith in TJ Yates for the playoffs, scary…
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I got a suggestion assuming that JDR isn’t fired by tonight or 1st thing in the morning…..Everyone to wear white shirts to the MNF game in protest of JDR not being fired!
After a good nap this afternoon, I've come to accept that short of a mutiny, JDR is here til after the Colts game
Some coaches may go before then, but JDR is here for the remainder of the year. My Christmas list for the Jags in 2012:
Eagles fire Reid, we pick him up and bring in Jeff Fisher as defensive coordinator. I can’t see anyone on the staff staying which is a shame because I’d like to see Purnell, Cullen, Heck, Byner and Duffner stay
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Why do people think Reid is a good coach?
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what else we can do as a fans….putting paper bags over our heads, I think would be asking too much…..personally I’m not looking forward to attending the game knowing that JDR will still be standing on the sidelines, but if there is any way to show my displeasure for him not being FIRED I’m wit it.
how bout plastic bags?
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Look dont bite my head off for this suggestion.
I think the eagles are going to fire Andy Reid soon. Do u guys think he is good solution for our next coach? Dont get me wrong his team is bad now but this guy is a winner and he seems to be good with young qbs. He couldn’t do any worst than Jack and his offenses are usually pretty good.
by Marshall856 on Nov 28, 2011 11:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this guy is a winner
O RLY
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
He has a whole lot of playoff appearances and playoff wins. He has been to the nfc championship game alot nd one superbowl appearance but we all know they lose. He is an ok coach but does make some dumb coaching mistakes but what coach is perfect. Out of all I said the part u read was he is a winner.
by Marshall856 on Nov 29, 2011 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ask an Eagles fan how great of a coach he is.
Actually, ask Philly’s opponents’ fans how great of a coach he is. He was very fortunate to have a great DC for years, and the stars aligned for him in 2004 (yeah, that NFC championship season was that long ago) the way they aligned for JDR in 2007, but otherwise he makes maddening coaching decisions and his teams underachieve.
I like to watch.
by MoveThoseChains on Nov 29, 2011 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
My whole family are eagles fans.
Sometimes they love him and sometimes they hate him. Ive been a jags fan my whole life but since I live in NJ I am forced to hear about the eagles. If he is fired because the eagles may not even do that Andy reid is a better coach than jack del rio so he would be an upgrade but don’t get me wrong if we find can a better then I’m for that.
by Marshall856 on Nov 29, 2011 1:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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