Jaguars Deny Fred Smith Report
by Alfie Crow on Nov 3, 2011 8:33 PM EDT
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PrintThe Jacksonville Jaguars have denied the report by 1010XL that Fred Smith will be buying a minority share in the team. Our own Adam Stites contacted the Jaguars to get an official statement on 1010XL's report. This is the response he received via e-mail:
1010xl is wrong. That report is not true. Wayne Weaver is not selling the team.
The team has denied reports in the past of Weaver selling the franchise. Weaver himself denied the rumor when asked by ESPN'S Chris Mortensen and Florida Times-Union columnist Gene Frenette when asked. Weaver has long said that there will come a time when he will sell the franchise, but he has also maintained it would be to someone committed to keeping the franchise in Jacksonville.
We will have more on this story develops, as it looks like it's going to be a back and forth for a while. Note: The team is not going to confirm anything until an actual deal is in place.
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I think you mean more on this non-story
That radio station needs to get its shit together.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
by unhipcat on Nov 3, 2011 8:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Pretty sure this was included for a reason...
Note: The team is not going to confirm anything until an actual deal is in place.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
that note is from Alfie
who, I assume, is not involved in any negotiations dealing with the ownership of the Jaguars.
my point is that the radio station didn’t even cite an anonymous source and apparently made no attempt to contact the team regarding the issue. if they did, they didn’t report that. in either case, it’s sloppy reporting and doesn’t lead one to believe they’re a reliable source.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
To be perfectly honest, contacting the team to confirm a report is worthless. They always deny it unless it’s done and finished, like when they sign a player.
For the rest of what you said… no comment.
exactly... just like contracts
I didn’t hear their live report. did they cite any source? if not, that’s my beef. someone on radio or with a blog “reports” something without attribution, and the whole world goes off on tangents.
not meant to be a plug, but you have shown yourself to be reliable in your reporting. you state when you’ve received information from someone in a position to know, and your own opinions and observations are fairly easy to differentiate from hard facts.
if nothing else, at least incidents like help us determine who report information and are trustworthy and who just make things up, without any apparent effort to be an actual reporter.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
So just because they don't confirm it,
I.E. Free agent signings, it means it didn’t happen?
Cause it seems like they often are right about the signings…
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
The team will not confirm until its done. IE until the paper work is filed to the league signing a free agent.
by Alfie Crow on Nov 4, 2011 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What's interesting about the teams stance is:
Weaver IS selling the team…at some point. He has said so. We know his kids dontbwant it, and it will be sold. So they should amend their statement to read: Wayne is not selling the team right now.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
To be Honest
If I were his kid, I’d tell him all I want for my inheritance is ownership of the team
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 3, 2011 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
being picky
the statement from the Jags said that Wayne Weaver is not selling the team.
should they have said that he is not selling a minority share of the team?
faux pas?
freudian slip?
who cares?
rabble rabble rabble
Sean
Pax Armis Acquiritur
Whoa there, motherf---er...
ownership of the team is important. Not the usual rabble, rabble, rabble.
:)
Fidelis Ad Mortem
any truth to the rumor that there is a luncheon tomorrow at the Fed Ex terminal in Jax?
joking
You are banned from Stampede Blue.
You can browse the blog, but you can't participate.
I don't think you took me seriously. If you want it unbanned, email an admin. But, for now, your Stampede Blue privileges are done.
A bit different
since DG being our starter was a performance issue. Wayne Selling the team has nothing to do with that. Sure, if he has a stroke, heart attack or is diagnosed with pancreatic cancer tomorrow that could change. But that wouldn’t make this story correct. I guess it was too much to ask when it was flatly denied 2 weeks ago on the MNF Mort Report that the story would die. Well it’s a bye week and what better way to get people talking on a site when nothing else is going on than to rehash the same old nonsense.
The people who run websites like this and shows like that intentionally stir the pot because that drives traffic/ratings and that’s what their job is.
If this wasn’t reported, it wouldn’t have been posted.
Simple as that.
Why is this so difficult for people to understand?
by Alfie Crow on Nov 4, 2011 9:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Right
but if someone where to ask Bob Kraft if he were selling the team and moving to LA he’s say no and nobody would report the conspiracy that his saying no doesn’t necessarily mean no. And I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be a big story on their SBNation site.
Reporting the same nonsense over and over, just because others are ignorant enough to do so doesn’t make it news.
What do you mean reporting the same nonsense over and over? This has not been reported ANYWHERE until 1010XL reported it.
If 1010XL hadnt reported it, i wouldnt have posted it. Again, why is this such a difficult concept?
I’m not reporting a “conspiracy”. I made a note that a team immediately denying a report is standard operating procedure. Good grief.
by Alfie Crow on Nov 4, 2011 9:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is the first time anyone has reported
that Wayne Weaver is denying selling the team ?
Seriously, it was covered on MNF 2 weeks ago.
Here’s Tania’s tweet about it from last night
Re: Fred Smith, Wayne Weaver denied rumor that he was selling the #Jaguars to Smith 2 weeks ago to both @mortreport and @genefrenette
This is the first time someone reported that Fred Smith was buying the team.
Mortensen and Frenette asked Weaver about the rumor of Weaver selling the team to Fred Smith. 1010XL reported the sale was taking place.
Adam asked the Jaguars for a response to 1010XL’s report.
Why are you having so much trouble understanding what’s going on? There is a massive difference in a reporter asking about a rumor and something being reported as fact. This isn’t complicated.
i don't think the frustration is with you... or whomever addresses the false report
the frustration is with the initial “report” that usually based on
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
never mind
they said he was selling a “piece” of the team. i guess that could be up to 49.9%
Sean
Pax Armis Acquiritur
actually
it could be 99.9% of the team, that would still only be a piece. A very large piece but still not 100%, or the whole team.
actually
the report was a “piece” to a “minority owner.” If you own 99.9% you are not a minority owner
by JohnnyBiceps on Nov 4, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I was replying to this statement
“they said he was selling a "piece" of the team. i guess that could be up to 49.9%”
No mention of Minority Owner.
Are you kidding me????
“The Jacksonville Jaguars have denied the report by 1010XL that Fred Smith will be buying a minority share in the team. Our own Adam Stites contacted the Jaguars to get an official statement on 1010XL’s report. This is the response he received via e-mail:
1010xl is wrong. That report is not true. Wayne Weaver is not selling the team."
Seriously….I come to this site for Jaguar football talk….but this is bullshit! This isn’t a “rumormill bunch of BS!” I just lost so much respect for BCC!
Man is relaying to us what the ACTUAL media is reporting
and then goes to the Jaguars themselves to confirm and you bag on him? Are YOU kidding me?!?!
In the face of adversity, what you do from then on dictates who you really are...
Absolutely!!!
I am “bagging” on him. This story is bullshit! It has “no legs.” it is total bullshit. TOTAL BULLSHIT!
read it….
“1010xl is wrong. That report is not true. Wayne Weaver is not selling the team.”
It's a blog!
That’s what blogs do. Even this one. They report on actual football as seen by the multitude of posts below and they report on what’s going on in terms of press reporting.
Do you honestly believe that if BCC didn’t report on it, sites like PFT, CBS, FOX, ESPN wouldn’t talk about this later on today?
In all seriousnes....
Alfie…are you serious? You bought into this? You just lost soooooo much respect from me. Your article is bullshit. Total bullshit. I can’t believe that you suck this bad…shake yourself dude.
Shake yourself!
absolutely....real mad
Story has no legs…but it will now!
Here is my problem....
" Note: The team is not going to confirm anything until an actual deal is in place."
WTF is that?
Alfie....
Do you have any idea about when the team and Fred Smith might have an actual deal in place?
Your exact words = Note: The team is not going to confirm anything until an actual deal is in place.
You are gonna look so silly
if this eventually turns out to be true.
But, you’re right about Alfie and BCC. I remember at the beginning of the season they announced that David Garrard would be the starting QB this year. What’s up with that? BS! aaaaggggghhhhh!. I hate knowing what’s being reported out there!!!!!
I'd rather be golfing.
Rumors are why I come to this site.
Alfie always has the scoop
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
I unhid all of bmacmn’s comments, so we could all have an example of what flipping out over something completely trivial looks like.
so...
i supposed you will be shaking yourself then? whatever that means
by JohnnyBiceps on Nov 4, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just remember
If you shake it more than twice you’re playing with yourself.
by KillJag on Nov 4, 2011 1:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m still trying to figure out why this guy got so upset. He’s also e-mailing me too, to let me know I can take my stupid blog and shove it, because I’m just a clown with a keyboard and they come to BCC for news and not false rumors.
Nice half truth, dude
I sent you an email in which my exact words were “I apologize for acting like an ass.” I told you I respected what you did, and that the problem I have with this story is that your last sentence takes a rumor and makes it seems like a fact.
Your repsonse was to tell me to get off of the internet, call me childish, and tell me I obviously don’t respect what you do. Based on your response to my email, as well as your “mightier than thou” attitude that you for some reason have, I told you take your blog and your attitude, and shove it square up where the sun don’t shine.
I am done with you and this blog
Like I said…good luck.
Why all the venom?
There are only two possible outcomes here. It’s going to happen or it isn’t. Either way we have no control over it. I for one like to come to this site to get the information that is posted here. If a post bothers you here is a neat computer tip. . . don’t click on the post and you won’t have to read what is written. Lastly, I think the radio station talking about the story is what is giving it legs, Just sayin’
Jaguars fan from day 1
Ok,
by definition, this story is “news”
Pretty sure newspapers have reported on this sort of thing for as long as it’s been happening.
But regardless I’m sure this is more a case of Alfie having an axe to grind rather than reporting a news story.
/sarcasm
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Despite what people think.
This “rumor” doesn’t mean the team is moving.
WW has said he wants it in Jax, and reportedly Fred Smith has ties to the area (through his wife) calm down.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
If Fred Smith is willing to spend alot of money to get a top quality coach and GM, then I hope the rumor is true and the deal happens tomorrow.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Nov 4, 2011 8:31 PM EDT reply actions
selling the team, not selling the team...
This thread was pretty entertaining. Pete Prisco mentioned this rumor weeks ago on 930 The Fox. He said he’s heard that if there was a deal, nothing would likely happen until after the season is over. Also he sad that the person interested in ownership would possibly have minority ownership and that Weaver would divest his interest over a period of about five years. He was talking about this before the Monday Night Game if I remember right and at that time wasn’t ready to give a name. I suppose it’s possible he was talking about Fred Smith.
by Christopher Charles on Nov 7, 2011 12:10 AM EST reply actions
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