Brian Robiskie Ready For Fresh Start
by Alfie Crow on Nov 8, 2011 2:00 PM EST
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PrintNew Jacksonville Jaguars wide receiver Brian Robiskie was selected in the 2nd round of the 2009 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns, 36th overall. Robiskie was heralded in the draft as the most "NFL ready" wide receiver in the entire draft, partly because his father is a long time NFL wide receiver coach. The feeling was that Robiskie's route running and understanding of NFL routes should be easy, being that his father helped coach him. Robiskie wound up being a massive disappointment for the Browns however, being released just a week ago from a team who's starving for wide receivers.
Robiskie is looking to turn a new page in his career however, and is ready for a fresh start on a team who's looking for a receiver to step up.
For his career, Robiskie has just 39 receptions for 441 yards and 3 touchdowns. His best season was in 2010, when he had 29 receptions for 310 yards and 3 touchdowns. From what I've gathered, Robiskie's problems are he lacks speed and the ability to separate, but he could be a useful possession receiver (sound familiar..?).
"Whatever happened up there, it's up there. It's behind me. I'm a Jacksonville Jaguar now. I'm excited about moving forward," Robiskie told the Florida Times-Union about being released. "It's part of the business. When something happens, you have to deal with it and make the most of the next opportunity."
I'm not expecting a lot out of the former Browns receiver, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt playing with poor quarterbacks and a rookie Colt McCoy last season. Sometimes a change of scenery works well for a wide receiver and Robiskie is just in his third NFL season. I'd expect him to be active and play quite a bit against the Indianapolis Colts this weekend.
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Draft round is important
Top 3 WRs in the NFL (by receiving yards) are Wes Welker (undrafted), Steve Smith (3rd round) and Mike Wallace (3rd round). Only 6 of top 20 were 1st rounders, 3 were undrafted (Welker, Jimmy Graham who isn’t a WR, and Victor Cruz).
I dont care what round a player is drafted in...
I was asking out of curiosity.
Wherever it is good recievers come from, we had better start getting some.
And by the way, 6/20 is a pretty healthy percentage of first rounders.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
33 percent is healthy?
That’s not even a good coin flip.
If we end up picking top 5...
I hope we take Blackmon. I don’t think we will pick that high, though.
I’ll take the 33% shot as opposed to the collection of muff cabbage we have now.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
I prefer the new movement going on Twitter
Take Claiborne in the top 5 and go WR/WR in 2/3.
Soward, Williams, Jones
The 33% has been awesome thus far for the Jags.
I will say this though, if a WR is BAP, I trust Gene’s judgment.
Funny, coming from the guy who keeps bringing up what a monumental failure the 2007 offseason was. ’Sup kettle?
What does the 2007 offseason being a monumental failure have to do with bringing up all the busts at WR in the first round for this franchise?
Again, what was your point in bringing up Soward, Williams, and Jones if not to argue against a WR in Round 1 because it may fail (aka scared drafting)?
Answer my original question, then let me know how 2007, which I rarely even bring up, has to do with anything in this conversation to the point of saying “pot, kettle”.
Dude...
I will say this though, if a WR is BAP, I trust Gene’s judgment.
He’s not hating.
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by Brian Levenson on Nov 9, 2011 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
Reggie Williams was not a bust.
He should still be here. The off the field BS got him run out of town. He still has more TD receptions in a season than any Jaguar WR ever.
Good thing we didn’t run Jimmy Smith out of town for his coke troubles.
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He was a 1st round WR (9th overall) who had one outlier of a good year (2007 wasn’t even that great, only 629 yards), out of 5 years, and he bounced out of the league after Jax. I’d say that’s a bust.
Again, he was out of the league because of "trouble".
He had NFL skills. Maybe if he had a better QB (and no drug issues) things could’ve been different for Reggie.
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And if me aunt had bollocks she be me uncle.
If he had NFL skills he’d still be in the NFL.
33% vs. 6 other rounds and undrafted FA?
Yeah, 1/3rd being dominated by a single round is pretty healthy.
Your math is wrong.
It’s not total 6th/7th/UDFA in top 20 – it’s what percentage of 6th in top 20? What percentage of 7th? What percentage of UDFA? I would venture to say the answer to each of those questions is less than 33%.
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Also...
how many WRs are drafted in 1st rd? There’s only 32 spots, so the number is probably fairly low. Maybe 5? The number of UDFA WRs brought into camps is enormous. The number of WRs taken in 6th and 7th is also very high, much higher than WRs taken in the 1st.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
Since 2003, there have been 34 WRs drafted in the 1st round. If I go back to 2002, then there are 37. I won’t add the 2002 guys since they’ve all essentially busted out of the league (Stallworth, Lelie, Javon Walker). So that means out of 34 1st round WRs, there are only 6 in the top 20 today. If I stop at 2004, then there have been 31 WRs in the 1st round. 6/31 = roughly 20% of WRs in the top 20 in receiving yards.
Yes, the # of WRs taken in the 6th/7th/undrafted is much higher than the 1st rounders, but there is also far less risk involved.
Out of curiousity.
Change it from yards to touchdowns. Do the numbers stop proving your point?
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
I meant the total amount of 6th/7th/undrafteds. Yes, 33% of the top 20 are first rounders, but almost 33% are 6th/7th/undrafteds. Actually it’s 20% (Welker, Graham, Cruz, Garcon) so I overstated.
All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t draft a WR top 5 simply because we need one. We should go with BAP, especially since this draft is supposed to be deep with WR. If Gene determines that Blackmon/Jeffery/whomever is the BAP at our draft slot, have at it.
Did anyone say they should draft a WR in the top 5 JUST BECAUSE we need one?
You’re arguing against nobody and making terrible points, that actually negate your own case, all at the same time.
This team is not a “BAP” team. Stop eating from the spoon shoved in your face. This team drafts need, always has and always will. “BAP” is a faux draft mantra.
Then you disagree Blackmon will be a top 5 player?
Picking Blackmon 5th overall wouldn’t be BAP, it would be “just because”?
What are you trying to say?
If you need the combine to tell your whether or not a player should be top 5, then he shouldnt be. But I believe that Blackmon is top 5 talent. But that is IMO.
The combine makes/breaks talent. Would Julio Jones have been top 5 without the combine? I’d guess that he wouldn’t. I sure as hell didn’t see someone trading into the top 5 for him (and as dumb as I thought the move was, Dimitroff has proven me wrong, though Atlanta still needs help on D).
It does not make or break talent. Maybe it sets it in stone more, but if he is gonna be a top 5 talent then he will do well at the combine anyway. If you didnt know that Julio was gonna be great at the combine then you were not watching very carefully. I just do not think the combine changes all of that.
I like Julio when he was a freshman at Alabama, he looked like TO on the field, a men among boys. I did not know how he would stack up against NFL talent though.
You're stupid.
Sorry for the personal attack, but seriously.
The combine doesn’t make or break talent.
Its raw numbers, data which scouts love.
Talent is what doesn’t show up at the combine it shows up on the field.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
I misspoke
What I meant is that it makes/breaks someone’s draft status. Obviously, participating in the combine isn’t going to change someone’s talent.
There's really no way to know that
unless you have access to how each team ranks players both before and after the draft.
Exactly. And honestly no one in the league does that unless you are an elite team, and even then they still draft by their biggest need. Honestly Best Available player does not even make sense. Why in the world would you want to do that when you have a huge need at position X? Just wait until they are the best player? No, you pick them.
not expecting much
but hoping to be surprised… Can he hold on to a well-thrown ball and/or reach back and make a play on some of Blaine’s rookie passes? That is the question for this year.
I don't think anyone is expecting much
by kungfuman104 on Nov 8, 2011 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Old Alligator Arms Northcutt?
I still blame him for our playoff loss to the Patriots. If he had some heart he wouldn’t have short-armed that ball for a TD.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
So you subscribe to the predetermined outcome?
That changing something during a long event doesn’t affect the outcome? I tend to believe that each sequence in the event changes what afterward.
That said, even if he makes the catch, we are no locks to win, I certainly agree with that.
Fidelis Ad Mortem
If memory serves...
The team was down eleven at the time. The TD would have put the Jags within 4 points at 24-28 instead of 20-28. The Pats tacked on a field goal in the middle of the fourth quarter (6:30ish remaining). If the score was Jaguars 24- Patriots 31, that game isn’t nearly over.
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by Brian Levenson on Nov 9, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
Just read that that Patriots cut Haynesworth
Thank god they didn’t cut Chad O. or we’d have to read what a big mistake we were making by not signing him immediately!
When will the articles appear...
Saying how dumb the Pats are for all the bad moves they have made in the past few years?
Fidelis Ad Mortem
see Prisco, today.
I'd rather be golfing.
by iodrew on Nov 8, 2011 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It just goes to show you
that no GM/personnel guy is infallible. Look at the Eagles right now. The Colts and Bill/Chris Polian…
You can’t succeed having #1 picks the likes of those while Shack Harris was the GM, but I think most fans have been over-critical of Gene Smith as of late. Especially when you see that even those considered great have major misses at times.
Freeney
Mathis, Wayne, Edge…. they’ve made more than one great pick. But NO GM is batting anywhere near 1.000.
I don't think any GM is batting .500.
Basically just need to find a qb and you are a good GM. Maybe the folks in Baltimore are the exception.
@troycarson
Totally agree
Think of the many organizations that are considered above average… Eagles, Colts, Steelers Patriots, Packers etc…
The Eagles will probably fire Andy Ried if they don’t make the playoffs. The Patriots have the worst Defense in the league, despite ESPN proclaiming what a genius Belichick is every draft. The Colts clearly masked a lot of bad drafting with Peyton Manning… And Ben Roethlisberger and that defense makes up for the fact that they still have a pretty weak offensive line.
Every time one of our receiver drops a ball
EverBank stadium should play Vince Lombardi yelling “What the H*LL is goin on out there?!” over the loud speakers
by Jags85 on Nov 8, 2011 3:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I read the OZone but I feel like I'm missing something.
Where do all the questions come from? Does he have an email?
On the O-Zone site, scroll all the way to the Right side of the screen
Theres a “Questionnaire box” to fill out comments/questions to John/O-Man
by Jags85 on Nov 9, 2011 7:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just out of curiosity.....
what type of 40 yd speed does this guy have? If lack of speed is suspected to be why he can not get separation, we should be able to confirm that. You would hate to think it was route running with his Dad a coach and all. I do appreciate the team trying to do something, and look forward to seeing how this guy does.
It's not how he runs
or even his speed, it’s his lack of explosiveness. He’s not very quick and he’s not big enough to play like a big guy. He really is very similar to MSW.
Went back and watched more of
Robiskie since he’s been in the NFL. Sad to say, he reminds me more of a poor man’s version of Matt Jones, if there is such a thing. He runs better routes, but in terms of quickness and etc he’s like Matt Jones with less speed and less size.
Redskins just released WR Donte’ Stallworth. Would that be a good pick up for us or no?
by Marshall856 on Nov 8, 2011 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
His next opportunity
would be the seventh team of his career, and he’s been non-existent since the “accident.”
I'd rather be golfing.
he couldn't stick in New England, Philly, Cleveland, New Orleans, Baltimore or Washington
and you want him here??? Dude is 31. Ummm, no. Hell, let’s drag Tory Holt out of the booth again.
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