Eben Britton Injury Update: Still Not At Practice
by Alfie Crow on Nov 9, 2011 1:52 PM EST
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Jacksonville Jaguars offensive lineman Eben Britton is absent from practice today, once again according to multiple reporters via twitter. Britton has been dealing with a back injury that flared back up prior to the Pittsburgh Steelers game when he was made inactive game day. Britton has missed practices and hasn't played since. He dealt with a disc issue prior to the season, which required back surgery.
Britton missed the first two games with Guy Whimper playing in his place. After rookie Will Rackley struggled to start the season, Britton took over at left guard. Britton stated the next three games before his back flared up. He's been inactive since the Pittsburgh game and even after the bye week still isn't practicing. I would be surprised if Britton played this weekend against the Indianapolis Colts and certainly don't expect him to start. The problem with back injuries however, especially disc issues, is they don't really go away. This is likely going to be an issue going forward with Britton.
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This is a shame
He has the ability to be a solid starter, and at worst, a good depth guy. Dealing with this his entire career will definitely suck.
He's solid when he's not hurt...very good 2nd round pick
and he’s only 24
Chen for Cooperstown
by tiquanunderwear on Nov 9, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Britton is a very solid player
it’s not fair to call him a bust because of injuries.
Can't stand the truth?
Well, he can play
When he isn’t injured.
So Stafford was a bust last year, but not this year?
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Peyton Manning is a bust
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by Joe Fisher on Nov 9, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Slvrgun is a bust
nothing but negative attitude out of that one.
sooo based on your logic
Eben Britton had 11 pro bowl seasons before he got hurt?
I’m not ready to call Britton a bust yet, but he’s about 75% of the way there.
that's some outstanding deductive reasoning.
Especially considering my reply was to the statement “if he can’t play, he’s a bust.”
Where the 11 Pro Bowls factored in only you know.
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If you draft a guy at RT
He gets demoted to Guard, then he can’t even play that due to nagging injuries that show no sign of getting better than BUST. It’s okay maybe he can spend time with our other BUST Zach “Next Dallas Clark” Miller, I’m sure he is lonely.
Michael Oher is a bust then,
and sorry, but calling a 6th round project a bust is just downright ignorant.
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Thankfully
someone else sees my point.
Sure, it’s disappointing that he hasn’t been on the field more. But the term bust should be reserved for those special guys that are drafted high and don’t ever see any success on the field.
I laughed when I saw your comment.
Although, one way to look at it would be how Jimmy Smith started his career, injured for two years (and almost died). On the other hand, it will be impressive if Britton ever becomes a solid starter, with back issues.
I'd rather be golfing.
I agree
difficult to come back.
but I mean, he IS a starter, he does play solid.
Would It be better if he wasn’t hurt, yes
but what more can you ask except for him to do what he can?
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Just by pure definition, he’s been a bust thus far. He’s missed 14 and counting games in his first 3 years.
I think that's the problem with this whole conversation
There is no “Pure Definition” of the word BUST. Everyone has their own interpretation on what that means.
To me, a guy who’s drafted in the early rounds and never reaches their potential because of injuries isn’t a bust. A disappointment, sure.
To me, a BUST must be someone who fails expectations because he doesn’t have what it takes to succeed. Either the strength, the work ethic etc…
Every first round pick that doesn’t turn into a perennial pro-bowler isn’t a bust.
When you lose a hand in poker, you “bust” on your gamble. When you draft someone, you’re gambling. As harsh as it can come across, when a guy doesn’t pan out…
I wouldn’t normally call someone a bust until they were gone. But so far…
I'd rather be golfing.
life's a gamble.
Actually, life’s a garden, dig it.
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You Sir, have revealed yourself
stop churching up your name Joe Dirt.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
Seeing as how Britton
started 15 games as a rookie, I think you could easily say he Won that hand.
Again, this is why I say the entire conversation is flawed. To some people Tiquan Underwood is a bust. To me, if a player taken in the 7th round ever makes a larger contribution than ST’s that’s a bonus.
it's definately relative.
At the same time, even if he is a bust, a bust in the 7th means next to nothing to me, that’s essentially a UDFA
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
His rookie season means squat.
He was drafted to be a franchise lineman. He hasn’t played half of a season since he was a rookie.
Even Underwood. If Gene could go back now, he’d draft someone other than Underwood. That means he made a mistake on that pick – a bust.
I'd rather be golfing.
Britton was taken in the 2nd round
Again, it’s an unwinnable semantic argument.
To some, any guy who doesn’t make the Probowl is a bust. To others, expectations are that most players WON’T be pro bowl players and that doesn’t make them a bust.
You cheapen the term by using it for every player that doesn’t become an ALL PRO. Personally, I like to save it for guys like Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell.
First of all...
not once did I label Britton a bust. Secondly, no sane person, or anyone I know of, would labels someone a bust because they didn’t become a star.
Also, don’t forget, this is a business. It’s about money and championships. Whether you’re drafted in the first round or seventh round, the team using a valuable pick to choose you. Tom Brady was a sixth round draft pick. It’s all a gamble. Some win some you don’t. Your first rounder may be a bust, and your seventh rounder could be a hall-of-famer. It doesn’t matter which round, if you don’t perform, or develop at some level, to me, you’re a “draft” bust.
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by iodrew on Nov 9, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To me
you can be a less than great draft pick without being a bust. It’s not a TRUE or FALSE question…. there are many shades of grey.
A Player spending 3+ years in a league, most of that time as a starter, where the average player only lasts about 3 years just can’t be considered a bust in my opinion.
And you might not be calling him a bust, but people are. And again, that’s my point. EVERYONE has a different definition of the term.
This is useless.
Britton would be a good pick if was consistently on field. You keep tailoring your argument to suit your needs. No one said that someone is a bust if they are not great.
I'd rather be golfing.
I'm not tailoring my argument at all
I’m saying the argument is useless since everyone has a different definition of the term.
Am I disappointed that Britton hasn’t played better and been on the field more ? Sure. Do I think he’s a bust, no.
I reserve that term for guys who are drafted high and either never make a contribution or the likes of Ryan Leaf and Jamarcus Russell who, while they do see the field, are excruciatingly bad.
Fred Taylor only played in 24 of his first 48 regular season games… He turned out okay.
I also disagree with labeling a player being “a bust so far” To me, you’re not a bust until you’re done.
Which is why
I haven’t called Britton a bust. It may be too early. We don’t know what’s going to happen with him. I also do not believe the term “bust” should be reserved for first rounders.
I'd rather be golfing.
Eben Britton hasn’t played anywhere close to the level Fred Taylor did.
Yay, Strawman.
We get it: You think only top 5 picks who are atrocious are busts. Understand: you’re in the minority in the line of thinking.
I love how because I don't agree with you
someone who has never changed his mind in his life, puts me in the minority.
Last season you did a count down of the biggest busts in jaguars history and some of them were even debated.
I’m not the only one who thinks the term is overused.
When was the first time 99.9% of people ever heard the term “bust”. In the news of course. The news was probably about a [coveted] first round pick. Is a story about a 6th round draft pick not playing after one year newsworthy? No, because it was a low risk, high draft pick. Still, a pick was used, money was paid and it didn’t work out – a bust. It’s still a risk – big or small.
I'd rather be golfing.
Tom Brady,
is the exception, not the rule.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
lol
So now, I said every 6th rounder should perform at Tom Brady’s level – okay.
I was using extreme circumstances to make a point.
I'd rather be golfing.
Your problem,
is you were using extreme circumstances to make a point.
Using outliers to prove the mean doesn’t work, just saying.
"...I'm not trying to act giddy but the guy is a stud.'' - Terry McDonough, Director of Player Personnel, Jacksonville Jaguars
by TmannZOU on Nov 10, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
semantically speaking
here’s a good example.
Gerald McCoy – DT, Tampa Bay. He was starting to become a decent player, and then promptly goes on IR for the second time in 2 years. Bust? Too early to tell. Snakebit? Definitely.
Bob Sanders, was he a bust? I don’t even think he played 50% of the possible regular season games during his career, but when on the field, he was a game changer. Now, not saying Britton is in that category of Sanders, not by a longshot.
I fear that Britton is going to become the Michael Cheever of JDR’s reign.
I’d lump Britton in that same category.
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Preserve Britton for Next Year
Since it’s pretty clear that the Jags will not make the playoffs and we are training a young QB, I think the Jags should put Britton on IR and allow him to rehab rather than risk permanent injury. He can help us more next year than this year. This year is effectively over except for the excitement of beating the Colts twice.
As insurance, we need to draft a top-notch OL next year or go into the market and bring in a free agent. Depth is important to OL play. If Britton recovers and we have another top notch guy, we are set for a few years.
Seriously
Do you have any of the medical knowledge and information on Britton’s condition that he and the team have available to them ?
Why do you think you know more about what’s best for him then they do ? If they honestly though keeping him around created a significantly greater risk of permanent injury than putting him on IR, they would’ve done it.
Sometimes I’m just baffled that fans think they know better than the people who’s livelihood is effected by the situation
Yes, Seriously
We know that he had surgery for a herniated disk. That is public knowledge. If the condition is worse than this, the Jags have not let the public know.
Most working people who have surgery for herniated disks go on workers comp until they have reached 100% maximum medical improvement.
There’s no way Britton has reached 100% maximum medical improvement. Why risk more serious permanent injury at this point in his recovery and career?
by three finger on Nov 11, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Britton has yet to play to the level of McCoy or Sanders, however. He was disappointing prior to his injury last year.
No, he has not played to McCoy’s level.
Britton was OK his rookie season, struggled before he went on IR last year, was demoted to guard and lost his job to Guy Whimper.
McCoy hasn't done much
What has he played, not even 20 games? 4 sacks? For the 3rd pick of the draft, I expected more, but injuries have gotten the best of him.
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thank you
You’re right. Pressures are where it’s at. I don’t think McCoy has been better than Alualu, but there’s a bigger body of work for Tyson as he’s played every game and about 80% or mor eof the total defensive snaps thus far.
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What’s the difference between a drafted player who can’t get on the field because they stink and one who can’t get on the field because they’re constantly injured?
Both are busts. Neither can get on the field. Potential means nothing on the sideline.
even with all of the hype that Smith brought and Vic sold to the masses, I still have a hard time calling a 6th round pick a bust
Maybe I need to get past semantics.
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Again it's semantics
That’s what a bust means TO YOU.
That’s not what it means to me. Is he of value to the team if he’s injured, no. But I’m not going to label a guy a bust because he gets hurt. I reserve that term for people who don’t perform to the level of expectations because either the game is too big for them or they get lazy after signing their big check.
I would
love to hear what a team owner would call a guy he drafted (whom he paid a minimum of $375,00.00) that did nothing his rookie season and was subsequently released. Those pennies mean a lot to a wealthy individual. That’s big money out the window that could have been spent on someone who could have contributed. Same goes for Zach Miller. A lot of money has been invested in him (about a half-million a year) for nothing at this point. I still won’t call them a bust yet, however, as long as they’re on the team they could come out next year and embark on a stellar career.
I'd rather be golfing.
Bear in mind many teams get very little out of their 5th 6th and 7th rounders at least for 3 years
I imagine Weaver is still feeling the sting over Harvey, Matt Jones and Reggie Nelson than he is the impending sting of Eben Britton, Zach Miller, Tiquan Underwood, or Larry Hart.
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point is, missing on a 6th rounder is not as big a hit to a franchise as missing on a 1st round impact player.
I hesitate to call right tackle an impact position along the lines of a DE, WR, CB. or Safety.
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Ok, that’s fine.
But again: You’re acting like Britton has been really good on the field when healthy. He hasn’t. Calling him a bust thus far is well within reason.
The majority of people, fans and people in the business, do not have the same definition of “bust” as you do. Just an FYI.
So are you saying
that people inside the Jaguars organization are calling Britton a Bust ?
Or are you talking about people like you when you say “People in the business” ?
I think Britton has been serviceable
He hasn’t been the mauler we expected coming out of college.
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Could it be worth it to put him on IR now, so maybe next season he may be healthy?
Sean
Pax Armis Acquiritur
It takes a long time for your back to heal
one of the worst injuries you can get. I injured my back a few years back and it took me 2 months for my back to fully heal.
Can't stand the truth?
Injured my back last year when I worked at the Indy Airport
and it still bothers me almost every day. Back issues are some of the worst injuries. Can be very painful to walk and sometimes even stand. I Can’t even imagine trying to block a big, powerful defensive player
by Jags85 on Nov 9, 2011 2:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I won't mind if we
drafted Jonathan Martin from Stanford
Shake and Bake
Follow me on Twitter @Magicman904
He's one of the 3 on my first round wish list
Martin, Blackmon, or Claiborne. wouldn’t be mad if we get either one of them.
Can't stand the truth?
Ebon "Brittle" Britton
The guy hurt his back this year while using poor technique doing squats. At the very least he deserves the Dumbass award.
Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone
I wonder if the injury was one that he tried to mask from during the lockout
Liability. I just had a feeling Lane didn’t improve that dramatically.
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Don't need to go that far with it
it takes very little to screw up once and hurt yourself. Get careless once and that’s what happens, it doesn’t make him a dumbass.
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