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Jaguars Vs. Falcons Score: Ouch, Falcons lead 27-0

Well this is fun.

The Jaguars are down 27-0 already after everything that could go wrong has. The Falcons have had absolutely no problem marching up and down the field on the Jaguars with two passing touchdowns from Matt Ryan and a rushing touchdown from Michael Turner. One of the two punts the depleted Jaguars defense was able to force was muffed by Jarett Dillard and set up the Falcons with one of their three touchdowns.

The Jaguars offense hasn't done much to help either, already punting on three of their four first half possessions. The only possession that didn't result in a punt ended when Blaine Gabbert was hit from his blind side by Falcons defensive end John Abraham.

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Perhaps the worst part of the game so far was an apparent injury to Maurice Jones-Drew's ankle. Tania Ganguli reports that it's an ankle sprain and that he is expected to return, which is obviously good news. He's arguably the sole bright spot on a Jaguars offense that was shutout in the first half for the first time all season.

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The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 15, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

7 step drops

are not helping Blaine. The o-line cannot pass protect.

by tw15egan on Dec 15, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel sorry for you guys, actually.

Blaine may not be getting a lot of help, but I really don’t think he has much of a future either. Kid makes bad decisions, has horrible footwork… could go on but I’d be “preaching to the choir”.

To think Gabbert was higher on most draft experts’ picks than Locker…

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The future is bright for this Titans squad.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah bud,

How bout you go in there with no receivers and no o line and let’s see how you do k?

by Jdodd51208 on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Locker already did that.

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The future is bright for this Titans squad.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 15, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah woah sorry

Dont know how that happened but I replied to the wrong person, sorry

by Jdodd51208 on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

WOW

Frikin PATHETIC

by Jags85 on Dec 15, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Anybody care to stand up for Whimper's bitchass tonight?

frankDUBZ

"I'm smacking you with the truth......" - Me

by FRANKdubz on Dec 15, 2011 10:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

How in the hell is this Koetters fault?!

Atl players >>>>>> Jax players and it’s not close. Bill Walsh couldn’t get this rolling.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 15, 2011 11:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Haven't been able to watch game

Who is it on the O line? WRs still not getting separation?

by Jags85 on Dec 15, 2011 10:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

OL is Monroe, Rackley, Meester, Uche, and Whimper.
We have a total of 21 passing yards last time I checked if that tells u=you naything about how the WR’s are doing

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres no body out there right now.

Its literally just Blaine and MJD up against 11 big dudes looking to lay wood.

by asharp12587 on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Whimper got beat badly on a sack on the first drive pretty bad. Overall the line play has not been very good

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what I will eventually say

but for right now, the only good thing about this game was Khan’s mini interview. Let’s see what media says about the situation now.

by moufpuncha on Dec 15, 2011 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

They’ll say he’s just trying to win over the fan base and will move the team in a few years…or something along those lines. Basically anything that will make the city and/or franchise look like crap

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This sucks. It looks like the D if finally showing just how decimated it really is. We are trying to cover Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Tony Gonzales with a UDFA corner and another corner that we picked up off the street three weeks ago. At least the DL was getting some pressure on Ryan in the 1st half. I really can’t wait for April to show up

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder

if Garrard will be ready for training camp next year?

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

by DownTownJax on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Before this I was trying to be understanding with the Gabbert situation.

From now on, I’m on a hate trail.

Gabbert sucks. Everyone knows it now. I told you all this was coming. You didn’t wanna hear it.

Now who believes me?

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

I do

the difference is I get flamed for stating what I believe in.

by moufpuncha on Dec 15, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I get flamed too, which is why I haven't been talking much junk this season.

Don’t worry, you got me firmly in your corner now.

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I'm willing to drink the Kool-ade, but I'm hungry for the truth.

by Brian Levenson on Dec 15, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You're both flaming.....

and you’re in his corner………………I think you can see where I’m going with this.

by asharp12587 on Dec 15, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re being flamed because you’re so obviously bitter about Garrard being dumped.

by Alfie Crow on Dec 15, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It really has nothing to do with What's-his-face.

It’s about Gabbert, and how frustrating it is to watch him play.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 16, 2011 3:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure, I guess that’s why you were so anti-drafting a QB, so anti-Gabbert before he even practiced, and apologetic for Garrard’s poor play.

Because of Gabbert.

Right.

by Alfie Crow on Dec 16, 2011 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

How can you even make a fair judgement on Gabbert when he has zero OL protection and is throwing to the likes of Chastin West and Taylor Price?

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

By actually watching how bad he plays.

He runs too early getting himself sacked, doesn’t cover the ball up, doesn’t get rid of it when under pressure…

He makes everyone around him look worse than they already are. Seriously, where is there a future for a QB who’s thrown under 10 times when his team is down 41 points?

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You bring up a lot of valid points. Yeah he does have a rather large problem of running into sacks and the like. But then again I really don’t think the Gene would have drafted him unless he thought those instincts could be coached out of him. And it also might have helped if he had an actually QB coach this season.

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No One

Sorry, we forgot about you long ago. Traitor.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

by DownTownJax on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

To be Honest Aaron Rodgers was sacked 63 times (tops in the NFL) in 2009 but he still did really good

you can have weakness in your blocking but your quarterback has to be able to either deliever the football or escape.. it can’t all be the OL’s fault if he drops back runs and gets sacked… i mean this isn’t a surprize it is in bold on his scouting report coming into the league.

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

oh no that was Cutler who was sacked 63 times in 2009 lol oops

but still Aaron was sacked 50 times and he did ok that year (cutler could still function somewhat with his pocket skills that year and this year running for his life)

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

Cutler had a horrible year in 09. Lol, you don’t even believe your own bullshit

by JohnnyBiceps on Dec 16, 2011 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It was on his scouting report but the hope was that he suppress those instincts and become a more prototypical NFL QB. Maybe if he had a decent QB coach for the this season he could have been better

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

see thats the thing...can you teach pocket awareness?.. this is what makes me think he is a bust prior to the draft

Can you expect a running back to gain better vision? does that ever happen?.. can you expect instinctive skills to improve and become a strenght?. i don’t think you can improve in a instinctive skill like that. I think it is what it is and for now and forever he will be what he is… sad to say it be that is what i see. Only hope can have a person consider this something he can improve on …even if marginally.

You really can’t suuppress instincts it always comes out especially when people are playing their hardest.

i feel like you can coach a playbook.. a offensive system… philosophy… situational football. But the 2 things you can’t teach a quarterback is instincts in the pocket and accuracy… either they have it or they don’t. Sitting by and waiting for that too change is just hope.. because their is NOTHING a coach can do too help a player with instincts.

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s a great question. Should we already declare him a bust? I agree that its very hard to teach and coach pocket instincts and accuracy and yes Blaine has struggled mightily this year. But should we call him a bust before his rookie season is even over? I don’t think we should. Now should we perhaps look at other QB prospects for this draft such as Robert Griffin III as you suggested below? Absolutely we should. With the way the new CBA is you can draft a franchise QB dirt cheap compared with just a few years ago. Hell, I love how RGIII plays and since I live in Oklahoma now I get to see a lot of him. But looking at other prospects is something that should be done for every draft. Who knows maybe if we do draft another QB Blaine will get a fire lit under his ass and play like we thought he could when Gene drafted him.

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 15, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree with what your saying here Montanajagsfan

I don’t know if he is a bust to best honest and no one does. BUT.. if i am Jags managment i woud have to assess the reality of it. I would have to ask myself could i coach him up and help with this weakness. It is up to the management if they feel they can.

I myself don’t think Gabbert should be safe.. i think you it the nail on the head in this current CBA you aren’t paying 60M plus contacts. Newton got 22M as the first pick…if it was me i would take that into consideration and if RG3 causes Gabbert to step up then good… but no matter what happens the quarterback position must be addressed and fixed or you can’t compete with the better teams….a good qb can hide flaws…. a bad qb you better not have any other flaws. …. just saying

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree fully with u. It’s up to Gene and the staff to determine if he can be coached out of his weaknesses. If they feel that he can’t and that RGIII can be a good franchise QB then I say trade Blaine and draft Griffin. But I’m just really not looking forward to having another season with a rookie QB.

"Viva los Zapatistas y la Revolucion"

by montanajagsfan on Dec 16, 2011 10:06 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Yeah, it was on his scouting report.

I saw it too. He’s not ready to be an NFL QB. He wasn’t even a great college QB.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the Oline may not be playing well...

but Gabbert’s weakness in the pocket make it to where he can’t even play. To be honest some of these sacks he is running into…that last one he could have stepped up left but instead ran outside right and into the end…. something he did in college….. i honestly don’t think that will get better… a instinctive skill never becomes a innate skill. I don’t know what to say.

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Start checking up on Robert Griffin III

That’s what I’m doing…

Early thoughts: the guy could be special, and I don’t even like running QBs.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 15, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i like him better than Andrew Luck for all the reasons i don't like Blaine Gabbert

Griffin is without a doubt the best quarterback in this draft working the pocket instinctively…. and some of it is dum luck that he ended up that way. Because of poor blocking and facing good defences he has displayed composure in the face of alot of pressure… where as Luck hasn’t faced much pressure all year and when he did he played average too poor….. on top of Griffins accuracy on deep balls is better than any quarterback coming into the NFL in memory…. film just doesn’t lie… historically people will look back and regret picking Luck over griffin…. Luck should be decent but not this HOF player some blindly claim because experts keep stuffing that notion down our throats…if you do your own honest evaluation RG3 comes out on top on alot of fronts.

by Shankdiddy on Dec 15, 2011 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool

You can take your contributions to whatever team drafts him

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Barkely is also very good in the pocket as well... RG3 is the best from the pocket in this draft..is very composed under pressure.

the very concept of “running quarterback” not being perfered is based on the context in the first place. The notion that “those type” of quarterbacks can’t process reads and take off and run….or then aren’t smart enough and can only look at one guy and run… it is all comedy because the very idea of generalizing any human being as “this type of quarterback”is so short sighted really.

The truth is everyone is unique and RG3 is the best that i have ever seen in this mold….. i compare him to Rich Gannon…. tho many blind racist people will compare him to Vick (even tho Vick only passed for 16 TD in his last 2 years in college and RG3 passed for 58 to date…and is only one of 3 to EVER have 10000 yards passing and 2000 career rushing in college)…. but some will compare him to every black quarterback they can rattle off because it will make them sound smart too their friends… but the truth is…. if you really look at his game without blinders you see a young Rich Gannon….. and he was prettttty good

by Shankdiddy on Dec 16, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Christ man, you’re so ignorant about RG3 it’s hysterical.

Calling him a “running QB” is profoundly ignorant and wrong. He’s no more a running QB than Gabbert was.

by Alfie Crow on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

RG III has 2000 rushing yards at the college level...

That’s not a running QB?

Note by the way, I said “running” QB not “run-first.” There is a difference. Run-first QBs are an issue in the NFL because their focus is often on making a play with their legs when things break down.
A running QB is a player who can be an effective runner, and is called upon to carry the ball in college. Generally, I don’t like those players. They tend to get injured more often and ultimately in the NFL what’s important is your arm, not your wheels.
What has drawn me to RG III is that even in an offense that has him running, he still keeps his eyes downfield, Roethlisberger style. He won’t be Big Ben, because Ben is a more powerful guy than Griffin is, but the ability to keep your eyes downfield while on the run is huge at any level.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 16, 2011 3:37 AM EST up reply actions  

He has 2,000 rushing yards, OVER FOUR SEASONS. He also has over 10,000 passing yards. He had 3,998 passing yards and 600 rushing yards in 2010. Calling him a “running QB” or a “run first QB” profoundly ignorant. He’s a QB who can run. There is a massive difference.

Humor me: How many Baylor games have you watched?

by Alfie Crow on Dec 16, 2011 9:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Save your arguements, guys...

Absolutely NO chance Gene drafts a qb with our first round pick. Hate to say it…but doing so would blatantly admit to the world that he made a huge mistake in having us MOVE UP in the draft to grab “our guy” Gabbert. Gene isn’t about to admit that in front of the NFL community AND his new owner. So save your anger, Gabbert’s gonna be around for awhile. His trade value is probaly next to nothing now, and so is his confidence, and the teams confidence in him. Just an ugly situation all around that anyone could see from a mile away….draft an qb who IS NOT READY TO START, and what do the Jags do? We start him…do we pair him with a blue chip qb coach or offensive line? No..that would make too much sense. Do we have/pickup a #1 target to bail him out in tight situations on passing downs? No…we RESIGN an injured MSW, and pair our new qb with waver wire “guys” and small college team captains. Not mad at the players, mad at the jacked up way we built this team. Are we SURPRISED we are losing like this? I’m not.

"History is a set of lies agreed upon." - Napoleon Bonaparte

by 78hustla Jag on Dec 16, 2011 4:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Here's the thing though...

In the draft, there are two options: BAP and need picking. Given that the Jags drafted Alualu at DT with Henderson and Knighton on the team, Gabbert with Garrard on the team, etc. is it unreasonable to think that if the best player available actually is a quarterback that Gene might actually go for it?

Honestly, if the decision is between a GM keeping a guy for three years until he proves he’s incompetent and seeing that there’s a guy with more skill available and drafting him, I’d rather draft the better QB.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 16, 2011 4:21 AM EST up reply actions  

BAP doesn't work

1.2.3.4.5.6.7 Pick the guy with the highest number on your board. Whenever it has been explained by Gene or other player personel guys, you have a couple of guys rated the same and pick amongst them. The Seahawks, Dolphins, Redskins, Chiefs, and Browns all likely value a QB more than us, and would be willing to trade up to grab their guy and jump us. Luck definitely won’t be available and Barkley and RGIII most likely won’t be either.

No QB is going to be successful in this system regardless. Shaky protection and AWFUL receivers. Build the team around Gabbert and if he still sucks, then at least you have a system that someone can come in and contribute opposed to two Top 10 QBs who have been shell shocked.

by rws591 on Dec 16, 2011 8:14 AM EST up reply actions  

The fact that you still think Gene Smith is a “BAP” drafter is… Hilarious.

by Alfie Crow on Dec 16, 2011 10:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

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