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Jaguars Vs. Falcons Final: Ugly. 41-14. Ugh.

The Jaguars winning 41-14 was fun to see. The Jaguars losing 41-14 was extremely painful to watch.

Blaine Gabbert and the Jaguars offense was abused by the Falcons pass rushers, particularly John Abraham who finished with 3.5 sacks and two forced fumbles. The Jaguars depleted defense was abused and allowed more than 40 points for the first time all season.

It wasn't until Kassim Osgood blocked a Falcons punt that was recovered by Zach Potter for a touchdown did the Jaguars break the shutout. Gabbert finished the game with a drive against the Atlanta backups that culminated with a Chastin West touchdown in the final minute of the game.

Only two more games and the monster that is the 2011 season is finally over.

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Thanks for the support/condolences...

You guys look loaded, hope that you guys can find consistency and make a run at this thing.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks man.

I follow the falcons and your page as well and you do a heck of a job. Youre a classy man.

by Dwalk1217 on Dec 15, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with Dave

even as a Broncos fan, we have trouble with the Jags traditionally, I feel bad for what is going on. You guys are a classy Broncos rival, unlike the Faiders and Dolts (Chargers)

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by the new Bradfather on Dec 16, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

The only good part about that game is that MJD dominated a very good ATL rush defense. I think we have proved that we need to fix our O line and WRs. I’m going to drown out all of the idiots that are going to talk about Gabberts issues because I am not really expecting any changes in them until the offseason. He needs better guys around him and a better QB coach to grow. There is no point in drafting a QB to put him in the same hell hole that Blaine is in. Lets use the first round pick on a WR or OT that will improve the team immediately. What made tonight even more frustrating is that I live in Atlanta and put myself through the torture of watching the game with my Falcons friends. Rough night

by Dwalk1217 on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

Kinda sensed it was gonna be ugly after the first series

We were blown up off the ball and looked very flat coming out on defense. You can tell Atlanta was ready for this one, they played with an edge tonight and it felt like we were struggling to match their intensity all game.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 15, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

We usually

play badly on the first drive on defense.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 15, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

This seemed different to me though

Its always hard to judge watching TV, but Atlanta looked like they were ready to rail on us from the start and we looked flustered. It was like they pushed us against a wall and we were shocked that they did if that makes sense. It could be that we don’t have the horses that the Falcons have too, personnel certainly played a factor tonight.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

This season has been a total unlucky, bad season for the Jags. But the future is very bright.

We have almost all of our main DBs on the IR right now and with them for a full season would make a world of a difference. In the 1st round if we take an OT like Jonathan Martin I think that would solidfy the O Line. For the WRs, I like Dillard, Price, Thomas, and Robiskie to come back next season at WR and we add Bowe in free agency. Then we have MJD in the backfield. Lastly, I thought Gabbert did well in the 2nd half and with a good QB coach, watch out next year.

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by Thunder64 on Dec 15, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

man who ever goes against whimper has one heck of a game, same story different week

by Haris Tariq on Dec 16, 2011 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

Blaine played like a rookie who has a

Bad wr Corp and a dip shit right tackle. Oh wait that’s exactly the situation he is in.

by JagSoldier on Dec 16, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Rookie, Bad WR Core, and yes , Dip Shit Right Tackle....

are all key points, but the one thing that bothers me is that he (Blaine) looses desire in my opinion. I really question his drive to win at times, and that has me concerned. I hope I am wrong, but its what I felt I saw last night, and I really hoped he had worked through that against Tampa.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Gabbert...

Will wreck defenses in 2012. Also, how about that perfect missle he threw to Marcedes Lewis that bounced off his hands straight to an Atlanta defensive back? It’s been one of those years.

by Adam Bealyer on Dec 16, 2011 12:10 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Uh

More like 2013. Next year he’ll be decent enough to not cost us a game.

by asharp12587 on Dec 16, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait

Has Gabbert actually cost us a game THIS year? A game where we lost simply because of Gabbert?

by Adam Bealyer on Dec 16, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That was my point

It’s not ALL his fault. Sure, there are going to be bad habits and growing pains, but this offense had a lot of problems besides there being a rookie QB under center.

by Adam Bealyer on Dec 16, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Pocket awareness

His lack of pocket awareness and the fact that he folds under pressure can’t be over looked. I agreed with moving on from Garrard, but you have to admit that his mobility, ability to work with lackluster receivers and mediocre blocking is missed.

by Leethal on Dec 16, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well said.....

I was thinking this morning that, as you said, I agree with moving on, David may have been doing more than we realized last year. He damn sure never gave up, and I can not say that for our guy Blaine at this point.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

You’re calling Blaine a quitter now? Give him freaking time to develop. Give him some freaking wide receivers. Give him some freaking protection.

by Adam Bealyer on Dec 16, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

To start the year

Gabbert had the same WRs that Garrard had when he set the franchise TD record last year. Not saying Gabbert should be expected to play like a 9 year vet but just trying to make the point that he bears a lot of responsibility for his play this year.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Dec 16, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

read what i wrote. Below

WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--

by JaxBlaster on Dec 16, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Also keep in mind that he

has never been in a situation like this before. Hes never played for a team that had such little talent on it. This is a nightmare situation for a rookie period.

by JagSoldier on Dec 16, 2011 1:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This team has more tallent than any team he ever played for...

and more talent than any college team period. Is it a bad situation for a rookie….no doubt, but there are mistakes he is making, and should not be making, and mistakes that would hurt even the most talented team. Rookie mistakes, sure to a point, but I really question where his heart is at sometimes, but maybe I am wrong.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't need development time to be a fighter.....

and I just don’t know if he has that in him. Does he have the talent to be a big time QB? I believe he does. Does he have the heart? That is what I question.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

"Wait until Thursday"

That way, you can really find out what you have and what you don’t have.

by moufpuncha on Dec 16, 2011 12:14 AM EST reply actions  

This offense will not

turn things around unless we get a front line WR in FA. I’m talking Vincent Jackson, Brandon Lloyd, and/or Dwayne Bowe.

And then we also need a premium WR in the draft. And then we need to fill in with a 2nd/3rd tier WR like Matt Willis and Jerome Simpson.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Im not sold on Britton and I really hate watching Whimper play.

The O-line needs another infusion just like the Rackley pick. I pray that Khan has about $60,000,000 burning a hole in his pocket.

by JagSoldier on Dec 16, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

He really was awful tonight

It was truly like he wasn’t even there, and I’m not exaggerating at all.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Britton is garbage and should not

Take up a valuable roster spot next year. As for Rackley, I’m not sold on him either. But I agree with you that the O line needs a major infusion of talent. Unfortunately, we’re currently stuck with Gene, so don’t set the expectations to high.

by OGN on Dec 16, 2011 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Defense was better this year

Before the injuries got out of control. He deserves credit for that, no? And he gets credit for fixing the defense in a year, I think your comment is a bit pre-mature. The offense may or may not get fixed but using the defense as an indicator all hope of fixing it is not lost

by JohnnyBiceps on Dec 16, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He fixed the defense with free agents

not with draft picks. He is going to need to do the same thing with the offense. We wouldn’t be in this position offensively if Gene didn’t bring in players that were other teams castoffs or draft players that needed 2 or 3 years to determine if they could even play at this level, When you are trying to find starters you don’t have that luxury. This year’s WR position is last years Safety position when it was a revolving door of nobody’s. My concern is that he seems to be willing to repeat past history again and again without a track record of success.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Dec 16, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He fixed it by spending on free agents. He fixed the worst safeties in the NFL, which were “his” guys that he basically forced to being starters.

by Alfie Crow on Dec 16, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

then we agree he fixed it

I don’t care if it’s fixed through the draft, through free agency, or through witchcraft as long as it’s fixed. Point is, we have a solid defense, last year we were the worst in the league. Is it not reasonable to think there’s a chance the GM can do it on the other side of the ball?

by JohnnyBiceps on Dec 16, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol at witchcraft

We should try making voodoo dolls next season of the other teams QBs.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 7:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

receiver talk is useless

until we get a line worth anything. The falcons were getting pressure with a four man rush. It doesn’t matter who your receivers are if you can’t block 4 people.

by moufpuncha on Dec 16, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

We need both desperatly

It would be so nice to have someone who could actually catch the ball. Does 4 drops tonight sound about right?

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You fix Wimper....

and you fix about 90% of your problems…and I am dead serious!

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Stop this Dwayne Bowe bullshit..

Please! I dont wanna somebody else trash mann. We will be picking in the top 5 or 10 this year. Go get the damn playmaker you deserve. Picking up players like Bowe and Lloyd is the prime example of way we’ve been so bad for so long.

Houston's#1JagsFan

by B.Mills on Dec 16, 2011 6:32 AM EST up reply actions  

How is that an example of anything

When have the Jags went out and got a Stud FA WR in their prime? The answer is never.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 16, 2011 10:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I live in KC now, and I’ve seen him play a lot. Bowe would be a definite upgrade. He doesn’t have the burning speed to be a real deep threat (draft that), but his ability to make tough catches and find soft spots in zones would help this offense out a lot. I agree with you about Jackson and Lloyd though, they’re Porter-like cancers.

by Jaghawk on Dec 16, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how Lloyd is a cancer

I’ve never read anything to even suggest that. He’s always gone with the company line in interviews and I don’t think he’s ever been in trouble.

And I never mentioned anything about Desean Jackson. I wouldn’t say he’s a cancer, but he was worth the 2nd round pick he garnered for sure.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say just sign Bowe

I say sign Bowe and a premium WR in the draft. Frankly no rookie is gonna have enough of an impact next year to make us an above passing team. We need a WR with some experience, and frankly there aren’t a lot of options. I say we get something rather than nothing.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ewdtrey.....

I always really respect your opinion, but I am not convinced that the top notch WR will fix the problem. I really am having issues with Blaine as a leader. Yes the receivers have let him and the team down, but don’t freakin cry about and go in a shell feeling sorry for yourself Blaine, and that is what I truly see happening. That needs to stop!

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I keep saying that he wasnt drafted to be the

Guy this year but no one listens. Lol. He wasnt ready and the team said as much.

by JagSoldier on Dec 16, 2011 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

My problem...

Is that I agree that he needs a year to develop his QB skills, to fine tune them. I don’t think the development year is to find the will to win, and I question that in him. I hope I am wrong.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I get what you're saying

And usually I’m more patient with players and etc. And my stance on this is that, even if Gabbert isn’t the guy, we still need a WR to take pressure off of MJD and any future QB. And if we can spend money and draft picks to get WR’s, I say the sooner the better. Why? That way we can know sooner if we need to replace Gabbert.
So even if a top notch WR doesn’t fix the problem, we added more talent and we figure out what really is the problem.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

we need wide receivers and a o line, but when Blaine had time to throw he made some really nice throws

by fan7 on Dec 16, 2011 12:34 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

I don’t know if I’m on the right track here, but I kept thinking Drew Bledsoe tonight when I was watching Blaine. Bledsoe was certainly more aware in the pocket, but he and Blaine both make really great and tough throws when there is no one near them.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Io me its good, but frustrating

that he reminds me of Bledsoe. Drew was a really nice QB, but Blaine seems to have physical tools the Drew never had with his feet. The problem is that he doesn’t seem to know how to use them, add to the fact that his pocket presence/footwork is atrocious and you have a homeless mans version of Drew Bledsoe.

The positives are of course that he has a flippin’ cannon, he can throw it with the best guys in the league on a practice field no doubt. He also does generally play a really smart game in terms of where hes going with the ball. His footwork is as troubling as ever though, tonight he had 4 instances I counted where he just was awful in that regard. If his game is a Drew Bledsoe pocket passer then thats fine, but he can’t be any good at it without having good footwork and pocket presence.

And again, everyone on offense not named Maurice Jones Drew or the seldom used Greg Jones just sucks. Its hard to put all the blame on Blaine when his WRs cant get open or catch and his OL plays matador with John Abraham. We are in a bad situation come offseason.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 4:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Bledsoe couldn’t scramble to save his life, but their throwing is very similar.

by Jaghawk on Dec 16, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think this is on Blaine. I have been drinking.

But. WR’s and a RT that is Whimpy at being a Guy. Both of them are sucky. A D that has been desemated by injury and a Atlanta team that is pretty good and very good a home.

i just hope 2012 is F-ing better

by Rohal on Dec 16, 2011 12:47 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

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by Rohal on Dec 16, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

It is on Blaine Gabbert.

He can’t sit in the pocket and throw the ball on target. It’s even worse when there’s even the slightest bit of pressure.

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by Brian Levenson on Dec 16, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Cant sit in a pocket when their wasnt one to begin with

WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--

by JaxBlaster on Dec 16, 2011 7:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He has bailed on plenty of pockets....

that were there…..He has to get better and stop flaking out so early. And if he does bail on the play, get rid of the damn ball before the “fat” guy that can run a 4.6 smacks your ass and you drop it!

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree but last night blaine really was under more duress then he has been all year

One thing that really erks me too is everyone talks about how last year we set the jags receiving. TD record has any one thought about who caught most of them in one target it was lewis he disapeard this year completly hasnt caught one TD and the opertunities hes had he droped. Also im gona give credit to DG he was more mobile then i think we gave him credit for. He masked a glaring hole at the passing line we all knew it wasnt great but with DG in the moved better and extended plays better but they may come with time for blaine. And let me tell you i couldnt stand DG and im glad hes gone bc he made more bone head throws then ive seen blaine make this year. Now with that said we need a new RT and damit get the kid a viable set of WRS. I honestly dont think any qb rookie mostly like some of you want to cut bait and redraft would succeed around here with this line and receivers. Blaine was thrown into the worst imaginable posistion for a rookie.

WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--

by JaxBlaster on Dec 16, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Well said......

but one other thing that DG did not ever do was give up…..can you say the same for Blaine at this point, because I don’t think I can.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont think the kid has given up

But i think hes physically and emotionaly beatin and i probably would to week in and week out hes being desrtoyed and has a coach who probably dosnt really care to much about him bc he he knows he gone at the end Of the year. Hes probably tired of throwing passes to guys who dont run good routes and finish them or just flat Out drop them . I have hopes for next year i really do.

WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--

by JaxBlaster on Dec 16, 2011 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I dont think the kid has given up

But i think hes physically and emotionaly beatin and i probably would to week in and week out hes being desrtoyed and has a coach who probably dosnt really care to much about him bc he he knows he gone at the end Of the year. Hes probably tired of throwing passes to guys who dont run good routes and finish them or just flat Out drop them . I have hopes for next year i really do.

WE ARE JAGUARS.......FEAR OUR ROAR!!!!!!

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.
--George Patton--

by JaxBlaster on Dec 16, 2011 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gabbert hasn't given up

but I don’t think he trusts his teammates. I don’t completely blame him for that, but it definitely exacerbates the problem in games like yesterday.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

So, better pocket presence

can translate into better play and help make up for other deficiencies? I agree nothing would have helped last night but he is not doing anything to help himself in the pocket.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Dec 16, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think last night was a great example

I counted 3 times where he made a bad move in the pocket, but it seemed like there were at least 9 times that where there was no pocket to speak of thanks to the play of the OL.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you as far as last night went.

There wasn’t a pocket on a number of plays but in talking about the season as a whole I would have hoped this aspect of his game would have gotten better as the season progressed. Just getting better at throwing the ball away rather than running into a sack would be an improvement and I just haven’t seen it yet.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Dec 16, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see that

The season as a whole he hasn’t been very good at all with his pocket presence nor his awareness under pressure.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He was terrible last night, no doubt.

No way it’s all on him though. Abraham abused both Monroe and Whimper last night. The recievers created zero seperation even when Gabbert ran play action.

Last night was not the “slightest bit of pressure”, but I get your point. He struggles immensely against the blitz.

by Jagtastic on Dec 16, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

While making excuses are bad

how would you feel if you were an NFL rookie QB with no WR, an OLine that can’t protect you and your TE is just now learning how to catch again. This was the worst situation for him. And don’t you dare show Dalton, Newton, Locker or Ponder. Dalton has AJ Green, Newton has Smith and Olsen, Ponder has Harvin and Shiancoe. Gabbert has MJD and that is it.

Dalton and Newton were expected to start while Gabbert was expected to sit a year. He got minimal first team snaps in what little offseason we had.

Not even Luck could come in and do well.

Give him one more year and then compare.

by Casey Byron Adkins on Dec 16, 2011 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Having played on good teams

and bad teams, I know there is too much blame put on QB’s when a team is bad.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I seem to recall

that Gabbert got first team snaps during most of the offseason. He was getting more reps than McCown, and then Garrard hurt his back early. Also, he has been starting since the 3rd game. I know the offseason was short, but it was short for everyone, and Blaine was never treated like a 2nd or 3rd stringer in the offseason. The only valid excuse for him is that he started off less ready than the other rookie QBs – and that makes you wonder about the draft pick and about the QB decisions made early this year.

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Winston Churchill

by Conservative on Dec 16, 2011 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Supposedly

he was getting 40% of reps.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a good college player...

I’m on team Barkley although I’d take RG III over Gabbert.

Maybe Gabbert only needs time, if so he can sit behind a pro-ready QB or compete with him for the starter or convert him to tight end. O-line and WRs are crap but they’re nowhere near as important as QB look at Manning and Brady. Get a QB first round a WR second round a WR in free agency.

What could of happened; did.

by Mullayo on Dec 16, 2011 2:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Gabbert Needs Another Ballcap

Gabbert’s ballcap makes him look like a skateboarder and not a QB. He needs to improve his image, if not his play.

by three finger on Dec 16, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Gabbert Is Too Young and Inexperienced

Gabbert is the youngest QB in the NFL. He may be 21 years old. He played two seasons in college and had an injury shortened senior season in high school. He is still learning how to play QB at its most basic level, much less like a seasoned NFL QB. Gene Smith took a big chance in drafting a boy to play a man’s position. It will take Gabbert years, not games, to catch up to his competition at QB.

by three finger on Dec 16, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Why was Whimper starting in the first place?

Almost every time Cameron Bradfield has come in for Whimper, he’s been pretty good. I know he got beat by Abraham badly tonight, but usually Bradfield does pretty well.

by mdjagsfan on Dec 16, 2011 1:51 AM EST reply actions  

Usually?

Who has he played well against. Timmons? He’s a joke as a passrusher.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But anyone has to be better than Whimper

by mdjagsfan on Dec 16, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

At least Bradfield is young and has a chance at improving

Whimper is nothing but a stop-gap and a bad stop gap at that, I’d rather a young guy perform just as poorly and gain experience.

by rusty904 on Dec 16, 2011 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I was never a fan of cutting

Pashos. But he became injury prone after getting cut. Went on IR soon after signing with the 9ers.

I’d prefer letting the QB develop, which is more important, with a RT like Whimper. Yeah he sucked last night, but overall he’s still better than Bradfield. I’d rather let him develop in the off season, because he’s got a long way to go.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I can defend Blaine on alot of fronts but he has to protect the football better than that if he wants to start in the NFL. He turns the ball over too much via fumbling. Gabbert needs to sit on the becnh and develop for a few years before he comes out again. Either grab a vet or draft another QB, Gene!

by Catfanatic1979v1 on Dec 16, 2011 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

I do not want Manning.....

and I do not think he would come here, but the thought does beg a very interesting question…..If nothing else changed much, how would Sir Manning perform, and how would the Jags perform, with this group of personnel on the field? We will never know, but it sure would be interesting to see what Peyton could do with the same o-line and the WR’s.

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would you not want Manning?

I agree there is 0% chance he comes here if he leaves the Colts at all, but hes freakin’ Peyton manning. If the Colts can go from a 12 win team to a 0 win team just by missing him then I suspect we would be quite a bit better as well even with our personnel at WR and OL.

by jstnblke41 on Dec 16, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it would be interesting to find out what he could do....

and I agree we probably would be better. And yes…I should want Manning…..that was pretty stupid of me to say!

by GAJAGFAN on Dec 16, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

As bad as our OL is

it’s still better than the Colts OL. But their system and WR’s help mask that some.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

we do not want Vincent Jackson

He’s Jerry Porter 2.0. I live in San Diego, Jax fans would hate this guy. He’s a little prima donna that is cancerous to an organization. His effort is truly questionable. He’d look to Jax to get paid and that’s it. Oh, and he doesn’t talk to the media at all, so when his play implodes he disappears like lil bitch

by JohnnyBiceps on Dec 16, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree he's a bit of

a prima donna, but he’s the lesser of 2 evils when comparing him to a lot of the other playmaking WR’s. And frankly drafting a WR next year, no matter who he is, isn’t going to fix the problem.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

From an outsider's point of view,

I would say Gabbert has been dealing with a very unfair situation for a rookie QB.

Everyone has known from the opening game that Del Rio was a dead man walking, which had to affect the entire coaching staff. The O line has indeed looked terrible, but how much of that is coaching? There’s really no way to know what’s what in the middle of such turmoil. Gabbert was dropped into this mess and expected to perform with no real receiving threats. The results were entirely predictable.

On the other hand, having now watched him play 3 full games, I must say he appears to have serious flaws in his game. He doesn’t seem to have much personal presence as a leader, either. It is still hard for me to see what the Jags saw in him worth trading up for; he looks like a project, at best. I could see the Jags trying again for a QB in the next draft. I don’t think you would be disappointed in RG III; he’s the real deal.

Good luck with your new owner, Jags fans. Here’s hoping he lets smart football people run the team. (I don’t know if y’all would agree Gene Smith is "smart football people ". Maybe you’ll get a change there, too.)

by FreedomRide on Dec 16, 2011 10:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

To be honest...

…he has it physically. He’s big, he can move, and he has a big arm. Well at least he did before he came here. I didn’t study him while he was in school, but later on in his collegiate career he seemed fine. Maybe the system he played in hid his weaknesses? I just don’t know what happened to him. I’m almost sure if he was throwing and moving like this when the Jags were scouting him, we wouldn’t have drafted him. We for sure wouldn’t have reached to get him.

Anyway, I wasn’t mad at the pick and not a lot of people around here were. Garrard needed to go and Blaine was one of the best QB prospects in the draft considering nobody thought Cam Newton would be doing what he’s doing. In the end, it didn’t matter who we picked they weren’t gonna be successful here. You saw our offensive line play. There wasn’t a QB in the draft that could deal with that.

by moufpuncha on Dec 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Gabbert

actually looked worse in college. Just watch his game against Nebraska. The film looks eerily familiar. As much as it hurts people to hear or to agree with, he has progressed a lot.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome back to Earth, Blaine

I wondered where the QB I watched all season went this past Sunday. I can’t even say it was all him last night as there was pressure from all sides. Even Monroe was getting whipped by Abraham. It’s so sad that the defense will totally buy play action and nobody is open when Gabbert does his roll out.

Even Dillard let me down last night and he was the only ray of hope I had for the WR corp.

by Jagtastic on Dec 16, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

Next Man Up?

After Dillard showed his lack of progress last night, who is the next man up? Ditto Chastin West. We are running out of players. I think we are stuck with these guys for the duration of the seaseon. At least, we have a next man up for Whiffer.

by three finger on Dec 16, 2011 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

Give me a Break!!!!!

Following the win last Sunday this site was quite. Very few of you had anything to say. Now following a loss all the experts show up. Judging from these comments I would say most of you are 25 or younger. You rush to judgement and possess zero patients. Also a lot of you are simply regurgitating the same crap i hear from the talking heads. Do some research and form your own opinion before you defend someone else’s.

I’m afraid there are no quick fixes to our teams issues its going to take time. Is Blaine going to work out? Only time will truly tell. If you can sit there and tell me he is a bust then please give me the lotto numbers too while your at it.

Take stock in your lives, but leave your livestock alone

by MadKow on Dec 16, 2011 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

Falcoholic here

Keep your heads up. We know how it feels. BTW i heard they were gonna start selling slurpies, lotto tix and sexual stamina pills at the Jags stadium when Khan takes over, any truth to this?

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Dec 16, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Really though,

Why didn’t y’all get Tebow. Makes no sense, the place would have been packed and they would likely be winning right now. Who did you guys get that draft?

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Dec 16, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly

Tebow is a poor man’s Garrard, even as a short-yardage runner.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

As hard as it was...

to watch, this is what happens when you go up against a playoff caliber team and you have 27 guys on IR, a rookie quarterback and an offense that is struggling as a whole.

I just really wish MJD would’ve made it to the endzone on that big run of his.

by kjones407 on Dec 16, 2011 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

His 317 touches coming into this game didn't help him on that run.

I just worry that we are running him into the ground.

Jaguars fan from day 1

by jagfan1992 on Dec 16, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He's unstoppable

I think he’s really underrated in terms of durability. Having only missed 2 games due to injury in 6 years has to be the best number in the league amongst RB’s that have gotten at least 200 touches a year. And I think if we were still in playoff contention that number might have been zero games missed due to injury.
Just looking at this year Forte has gone down for more. Peterson has gone down for more. Fred Jackson is on IR. Lynch and Gore have been injury prone. Foster missed time early in the season.
Rice and Chris Johnson have been healthy but Rice was a part time player his whole career until this year and Johnson might as well missed games this season.

by Ewdtrey on Dec 16, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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