Jaguars Vs. Titans Final: Offense shows signs of improvement in 23-17 loss
by Adam Stites on Dec 24, 2011 4:39 PM EST
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With the Jaguars long eliminated from the playoffs, the only thing left to hope for is improvement from the team. Particularly, improvement from Blaine Gabbert and the Jaguars offense.
While the defense allowed 350 yards passing from Matt Hasselbeck, including 169 yards to Jared Cook (a new Titans receiving record for tight ends), it's hard to put too much blame on a unit that has been decimated by injuries as much as the Jaguars pass defense has. With pass rushers Matt Roth, Austen Lane, Aaron Kampman and John Chick out and defensive backs Rashean Mathis, Derek Cox, Dwight Lowery, William Middleton, Courtney Greene and Chris Prosinski out, Hasselbeck had his way.
But the most important silver lining was the play of Gabbert. While the performance still left plenty to be desired, anyone who believes that he has not improved over the course of the season is refusing to see it. On the third offensive possession of the game, Gabbert went 5 for 5 and led the Jaguars on an 82 yard drive down the field that resulted in a touchdown.
Gabbert still has a long way to go before he becomes a franchise quarterback that the Jaguars can rely on weekly, but the signs of improvement are certainly there and were evident in today's 23-17 loss. Oh and Maurice Jones-Drew is still a beast.
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I know it is not the right thing to do
but losing the Colts game is now very much in question. The Colts are on a two game win streak and we have not been playing great as of late. We need to get off to a quick start next week in order to run the ball and milk the clock. If we lose next week, however, the Colts will almost have no chance of getting Luck and St. Louis will get the number 1 pick. Also. with the Vikings winning today, they have a very legitimate possibility of beating the Bears at home next week, which would give them 4 wins on the season. That would give us the 3rd pick in the draft if we lose. The way I see it is that there are three elite players in the draft this year(Luck, Kalil, and Claiborne). That would give us whichever one is left at our pick and would dramatically help our team. I know it is not the morally right thing to do and we may still lose with trying since the Colts are playing well, but it really might be better for the franchise if we lose next week. I hate saying it, but I think it is true.
It might be
but no way in hell will I root for this team to lose. Ever.
by jstnblke41 on Dec 24, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I completely agree
If we lose, we lose but I will be cheering them on til that last tick of the clock
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 24, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I dont want to lose
Im just trying to make a statement that will make everyone feel better if we lose
I got ya
I think they are in a good position either way, hopefully, a team really falls in love with RGIII (or someone else) and really wants to give up a lot to jump where the Jags end up.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 24, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'm mostly just worried about the draft because it takes my mind off of this year
and there are not a lot of players this year that will be there around 5-7. Coples does not have the explosion of an elite DE. We really don’t need Richardson or RG3, in my opinion. So it is looking like either Claiborne, Blackmon, Martin, or Reiff. Although with a bunch of these QBs returning possibly, we could trade back and get a WR like Jeffery or a pass rushing LB. I’m just looking forward to this offseason because I expect this team to be fairly different next season and I’m very excited.
Thats what I'm thinking will be the best case scenario for this team
They trade back and still get to draft Jeffery as well as picking up some extra picks, excitement indeed.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 24, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
I dont want to lose
Im just trying to make a statement that will make everyone feel better if we lose
knowing the direction this team is headed
with Khan in charge makes me excited no matter the outcome next weekend.
Im glad that you pointed out that Gabbert has shown improvement over the
course of the year. Lets hope for a good draft and some serious offensive free agents. With the same D and an upgraded offense we will finally contend for the division. These are a bunch of “what ifs” but Im a believer. Also we can get a list of free agents for next year? Im curious to see who is out there.
Don't get too high on Gabbert after this game, you guys..
We’re the same defense that let McCown look good.. :|
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 24, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
gabbert made better reads this game than he has in past games
He also made some better throws this week. Both of those don’t really have much to do with the defense he is playing. He found the open guys for the most part, which shows he is getting better. I can’t wait to see Gabbert v. Locker next year though. You guys should be pretty good and hopefully we can fix our offensive woes and get healthy and then we can both beat the shit out of the Texans. We will win the division though!
We played our DBs off and got inconsistent pressure.
And he still was getting rid of it much quicker than necessary and overthrew two open guys on deep balls. I saw us playing a soft defense and him doing what any QB should be able to do in finding some holes, but no “signs of improvement”.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 24, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Not hating, pointing out what I saw from watching the game.
Two open guys that would’ve been big plays, he had time in the pocket and overthrew both. Also, on screen plays you have to be patient to draw the defense in and then get it to the RB and let the offensive linemen get set for their downfield blocking…Gabbert failed to execute the play properly by getting rid of it too quick and not letting the play get setup.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 24, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Blaine Gabbert = Mark Sanchez 2.0
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 24, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but I see that as Blaine Gabbert's future.
The Jets defense has been really good the past two-three years and they’ve depended on the running game.
The Jags defense is really good and will probably be that way for a few years. You guys also have a really really good running game that will last for a few years too and that you’ll definitely be depending on.
Gabbert will be a Mark Sanchez type QB at the peak of his development, IMO.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 24, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
If you have to ask what I based that on, you didn't read my comment.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
you never addressed Gabbert. All you addressed were our current known strengths when fully healthy
never addressed our awful receivers, the fact that a career receivers coach was his qb coach and the former receivers coach was quality control and way in over his head and thus fired, his lack of an offseason and lack of a true mentor similar to what Locker has with Matt. Now, if the Titans went all in with Locker and Rusty Smith and scrub 3rd stringer like a Delhomme, then you might have a comparable situation. Now before you go to the new coach argument, I think the current HC didn’t really have to change much seeing as how he’s been cashing paychecks from Bud Adams since the early 80s.
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Now, if the Titans went all in with Locker and Rusty Smith and scrub 3rd stringer like a Delhomme, then you might have a comparable situation
I’m not comparing you guys to us, I’m comparing you guys’ forseeable future to the 2009-2010 NY Jets because there are lots of similarities to draw between the setup of the two teams and the QB’s roles in those teams.
Now before you go to the new coach argument
I wouldn’t go to the “new coach” argument because it has no relevance to what I was talking about.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
As you're comparing us to the Jets...
I think we Jags fans would be pretty happy to be considered overrated and to appear in the AFC Championship game twice in 2 years. I think you guys would too.
You’re already casting judgment based on the kid’s abbreviated rookie season. While he’s not setting the world on fire with ridiculous numbers, It’s not like he’s throwing 4 picks a game. He needs a lot of improvement. But I think he’s yet to even scratch the surface of his ability.
By the way, did you go to the game yesterday?
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I think we Jags fans would be pretty happy to be considered overrated and to appear in the AFC Championship game twice in 2 years. I think you guys would too.
Yes. And me comparing your team’s future to that team sure as hell wasn’t meant as an insult. That was my point.
Gabbert, even though he won’t be a ‘great’ NFL quarterback in his career… at best, he will still be able to succeed with a good defense, decent wide receivers, and a good running game. Two of which you already have.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
I am floored that you can already cast judgment on what a player will do solely based on his rookie season
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I'm not casting judgment on anybody.
I’m speculating.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
speculation is not dealing in absolutes, that's judgment.
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False.
If next week, I say “The Jaguars will beat the Colts”. That’s not judging anything. That’s speculating.
And that’s exactly what I’m doing. Speculating.
Though, let’s get back to the subject instead of playing semantics with the difference between ‘Speculating’ and ‘Judgement’..
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 27, 2011 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
You asked me what my comparison between 2009-2010 Jets
and the future of the Jags was based on… in a comment where I explained what I was basing it on.
So no, not really.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:13 AM EST up reply actions
I didn’t ask you anything, except to expound on why Gabbert is Sanchez 2.0.
Try again. This time, please answer the question.
If you'd stop being so abrasive I might consider it.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not unreasonable...
Not what we’re hoping for, though.
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 25, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
I would like to point out that he was 21/42, 198 yds and had a pick.
Now, I was high on Gabbert coming out of the draft. I thought the Titans should have taken him over Locker at 8. But he hasn’t looked good at all. You can say that this is “hate” but there is no intent to hate on him.
My biggest concern with Gabbert is his pocket presence and awareness. Honestly, he has none. It’ll be hard to coach that out of him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 24, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
My biggest concern with Gabbert....
is that he plays the game like an 8th grade girl! No stones what so ever!
Adam.....
He is not hating on Gabbert…he is juts not that good! Maybe he can get better, but right now he is not good a all!
Seriously?
Gabbert is in the worst QB situation in the league. No receivers, various backups playing at right tackle and coaching/play-calling that leaves a lot to be desired. He’s not playing pro bowl football, but there’s no way he should be the first thing you guys point out as an issue with the team. Give him time to develop, weapons and protection. He is far from a finished product. That being said, I wouldn’t expect any titans fans to understand or know any of that.
by Adam Bealyer on Dec 24, 2011 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
He has very little awareness in the pocket.
Don’t insult our football knowledge, when you’re making it look like you don’t have any yourself.
Is that it?
So while you rag on our QB, that’s the ONLY flaw you have? Please, just leave. I think I know Gabbert’s situation and the Jaguars better than you (a Titans fan). Peaceeee.
by Adam Bealyer on Dec 24, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Did I say that was his only flaw?
You’re putting words in my mouth. And what I was saying is that we know he is in a bad situation, it’s just that he is really skittish about contact, and that is very, very bad for a QB. Are you the worst Jags fan here? Cause it looks like it so far.
give him a full offseason with an entrenched coaching staff then judge
Kid has had zero direction and the team did not alter the playbook to a Gabbert centric playbook like Denver did with Tebow and Tennessee did with VY.
Apparently the front office thinks there is something there and they realize that Gabbert is not a finished product.
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I get your point, however..
How is Gabbert in any way comparable with Tebow/VY?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
dude.....
I was simply pointing out 2 examples, one that WE are all familiar with and 1 that YOU might be familiar with and the fact that those 2 teams seemed to “dumb down” or a better word would be suited their offensive playbook to the given quarterback’s strengths.
I’m trying to get your angle here. I think you’re searching for more than what there is.
BTW, Merry Christmas to you and yours. Want to ensure that I am not coming off too abrasive towards you
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Absolutely.
I agree they can’t give up on him. Not after one year. For all we know, if his situation improves, he could become really good. Merry Christmas to you too!
I'm only speculating on Gabbert's future in the league.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:10 AM EST up reply actions
... if there is one.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:10 AM EST up reply actions
speculate away
but many players tend to improve when the game slows down for them. There are a litany of factors and reason (though the detractors will label them excuses) as to why Gabbert has struggled so greatly. Give the kid a true offseason with an entrenched coaching staff and then one can make an educated decision on him.
I seriously doubt the Jaguars drafted him solely for what he could do during his rookie season. He’s in there because the incumbent (Garrard) did not win the job outright in camp and was hurt and released and because McCown was really ineffective vs. the Jets.
Amazingly, though, as bad as Gabbert is, if he made 1 less bad decision with the ball Saturday, he beats Tennessee.
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Again, I see your point with the 'give him an offseason' thing.
That’s a narrative I keep pushing on MCM when people say to start Locker.
However..
if he made 1 less bad decision with the ball Saturday, he beats Tennessee.
That’s pushing it a little bit.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
well, a TD and extra point on that ill advised pick into the end zone and we're up 24-23, right?
Most games do tend to come down to a handful of plays.
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We have one of the top ten defenses in the NFL in points allowed
and a very good red zone defense.
You’re saying that if Gabbert doesn’t throw that interception in the endzone, he’d get a touchdown and win the game.
If it was really that simple, QB’s would never throw incompletions into the endzone, because it’s either an interception or a touchdown.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Merry Christmas to you too.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:14 AM EST up reply actions
You're not acting very classy, man.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, just stating the truth.
And the truth is… Gabbert may not be in a good situation, but even QB’s in terrible situations show flashes of being able to do something good.
The only thing I’ve seen Gabbert really do well is fold under pressure.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I was trying to say, I just suck at it.
I seriously hope that this guy is the worst of this fanbase.
He doesn't seem to be a BBC regular, so I'd give them the benefit of the doubt here.
He probably shouldn’t be seen as the representative for all Jags fan.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I believe he was saying you have less knowledge of our QB situation than we do
He was not insulting your actual football intelligence. Yes, we can all agree that Gabbert does not have good pocket awareness, but hopefully he can develop that along with better footwork. He is a DEVELOPMENTAL QB. He shouldn’t have even started this year except Garrard was playing like shit this preseason. He IS getting better and developing. Now can you please stop trolling our site. I’m sure you would not be on here had you lost.
Losing or winning has nothing to do with it, I was looking for conversation.
Obviously you have more knowledge about the Jags than Titans fans do. We’ll see if Gabbert can develop and become a good QB, though. Good luck to you and your team.
"He was not insulting your actual football intelligence."
That being said, I wouldn’t expect any titans fans to understand or know any of that.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
You are so much better at expressing yourself than I am.
I don't envy you.
I think he was saying you're probably not as in tune with the Jaguars quarterback situation as you'd be with the Titans situation
Don’t be so sensitive.
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How am I being sensitive by pointing out what could have been perceived as an insult to someone's intelligence?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 25, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
easy answer: by your response to me
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... Uh...
So me asking how me pointing about what could have been perceived as an insult to someone’s intelligence is ‘being sensitive’ is…. being sensitive?
That makes about as much sense as it sounds like.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 5:08 AM EST up reply actions
+2
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 24, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
This guy knows
Gabbert played a little better today, but he is still very far off from being a competent QB.
yeah, that 80 yard drive for a td was absolute garbage
For once, one of our drives did not seen so grueling.
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He did look better then he has today
but what you said was true as well…
Playcalling
is something that is really holding this team back. I’m not saying that it is the only thing holding the O back, but the red-zone trip when MJD ran the Wildcat is something I’m not a fan of.
Get Gabbert some help and an O lineman or two, we may be something special to watch.
Honestly, IF this OL was ever healthy, I dont think it would be too bad
Monroe and Rackley seem to be playing a lot better, minus their two stupid penalties. Meester wants to play another year according to sources and he is still playing well. Nwaneri is very consistent and is a pretty good player. If Britton is healthy, he may play RT or can move somewhere else and play well. I don’t remember Bradfield playing too bad today. There was only one instance where Gabbert ran a boot and the guy Bradfield was covering got past him but I didn’t hear his name called very often, which means he played well.
Gabbert can hit the honeyhole.
And he can hit it hard.
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isn't that what life is all about?
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by TmannZOU on Dec 24, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can you even consider
Austin Lane a pass rusher? I mean even when he was healthy he never got to the quarterback. But on I side note I agree Gabbert is improving
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yes
but only when going against Eben Britton in 1on1 drills in the preseason :D
an Eben Britton with a screwed up back as it was...
I think Lane can be a serviceable player. Wonder if the IR was as much to get him bulked up to NFL standards
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Merry Christmas....
Offense showed signs of improvement? Ok, maybe your right. We still have a big problem with receivers dropping passes that should be caught, but that is not our biggest problem. I hate to say this on a holiday such as Christmas, but our QB, Mr. Gabbert, is a P#SSY. I pray that he gets a set of balls from Santa tomorrow. Obviously, he has the ability to be a big time NFL QB, except for one thing, no guts. You all can bitch at the o-line, but it would not matter, he is not tough. Now the good news is that I think he can learn the ability to be a man, but it will be up to him to do so. Lets hope it happens. I am about to go eat like a pig, so I wish you all the best!
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Someone is regurgitating Steve Tasker, who made it seem like EVERY time Gabbert left the pocket he was “scared”.
Some of you people need to learn the difference between being scared and self-preservation. There is a difference. It’s easy to call someone a pussy when you’re sitting at home on your coach instead of getting blasted all game long.
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Tasker was over the top ridiculous yesterday
the one play they showed where the receivers were open… of course it was well after Gabbert committed elsewhere. Wonder if Gabbert gave off an I don’t give a damn vibe in the production meeting the night before. Some guys kill him, like Tasker, and others “get it” like Pennington. Say what you want, but he was a bad decision on the goal line away from beating Tennessee. With our healthy defense, he would have.
Is Gabbert flawless? Hell no. But he’s going through the typical rookie struggles, in an instant gratification NFL.
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I like how people have already made up their mind about Gabbert
the guy is doomed to fail in their minds no matter what he does
You can't reason with unreasonable people.
If you ain't first, you're last.
I really think people want to see him get sent off on a gurney
The way some folks have turned on him already reminds me of the way they turned on Byron so quickly.
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I don't want to see him on a gurney....
but I do not see him having any desire or kill in him. He plays like he is over his head and scared, and that will no cut it in sports!
what criteria are judging this from?
Facial expressions? Body language? Curling up once a sack is inevitable to protect the ball and a several million dollar investment?
What exactly is showing “desire” or “kill” in someone? Should he yell a chant over and over again in front of the cameras in pre-game like Drew Brees does to prove to you that he wants to win?
There has been a significant improvement in the last 3-4 weeks on standing in the pocket and not flinching on phantom pressure. That’s what we wanted right? Improvement, I thought. It’s not perfect… won’t be in the next game, might not be next year, and might not be ever. But hell, even Brady curls up once a sack is inevitable.
I don't want to see Blaine be something he's not
He does not strike me as the rah rah William Wallace type who leads the team in some quasi New Zealand All Blacks chant and dance.
He’s one of if not the youngest guy on the team. He’s gonna have to earn the respect and I get the feeling he’ll earn it in the offseason.
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I do think.....
he looks scared in his facial expressions and body language to answer your question. And no, I do not have a problem with him protecting himself prior to impact. I don’t need him, to yell or chant, unless he wants too. I simply question if he has the desire to pay the pay the price physically….to take the hit because you held the ball until the last minute to complete the pass. As I have said all along, I hope I am wrong.
I don't need Steve Tasker......
to tell me what I see. And yep, I am sitting at my home, drinking a beer, and eating food, not out on the field. Thats not what makes it easy to call him a pussy. What makes that easy is the way he plays. I don’t want to see him get killed, but I do expect him to stand strong in the pocket, and act like an NFL QB, if thats what he truly wants to be. Some people need to learn the difference between playing to win, and playing scared. Winning is not always about self preservation….its about doing what it takes to get the job done.
If you came away from yesterday upset about Gabbert being “scared”, you’re either parroting Steve Tasker or didn’t watch the game.
Again, there is a massive difference between being “scared” and avoiding taking shots. Calling Gabbert scared and a pussy is hilariously ignorant. He wouldn’t be out there if he was scared. He wouldn’t make sure to get back in the game with busted ribs if he was scared.
Alfie.....
I am calling what I am seeing. I do not see Blaine Gabbert having what it takes at this point attitude wise to be successful at QB in the NFL. As I said in the first post in this stream, I think he can learn what it will take, but I think he has road his ability all the way to this point, and it is going to take more than a great arm for him to have success in this league. Its football. Your going to get hit. Embrace it Blaine, and hit back a little while your out there!
by GAJAGFAN on Dec 26, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, really? Blaine’s going to have to learn how to play in the NFL and adjust to it?
Well man, aren’t you the scholar?
I guess 13 games in he hasn’t, so he’s just a big ol’ sissy. What a girlie man. He should toughen up, cut his woman hair, and eat nails! Stop sliding, truck these linebackers. Show them you’re the man!
I hope.....
that I am not reading him right, and am just expecting too much too soon, but I have concerns. Time shall tell, and I hope you are right, and I am wrong.
by GAJAGFAN on Dec 26, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've seen Manning, Favre and Brady wilt and curl prior to contact
Sitting in there and taking the hit is stupid for a QB. I’d rather Gabbert shirk from contact than invite it. In fact that was a problem I had with the previous quarterback, he seemed to like to think he was Jim Brown more than he needed to and he paid for it.
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not only stupid
but it seems to lead to more turnovers / bad things than great throws and plays (I have no numbers to back that up, just impressions over watching/playing football through the years)
Though to be honest when a QB hangs in there, takes one hell of a shot, and gets off a long pass it makes great highlight reel fodder. But… not every QB is Ben Roethlisberger and it’s a bigger risk to do so more often than not.
If we can get healthy and add a CB, DE, OT and two receivers
Our team can make a playoff run next year. With all of these injuries, depth players are getting chances to start and they are getting better. The defense showed improvement this week. We made some nice plays to force turnovers and our defense looks like it is developing nicely. Gabbert looked much improved from last week(considering how terribly he played against Atlanta) and I think it is hard to ignore the fact that he is slowly getting better. Hopefully after a full offseason he will be a more complete QB. After next week, it is safe to say that our future is bright! Khan will do his best to lead us to the promise land and I expect him and Gene to find a HC that can get the most out of our players.
Not a bad game considering,
Our defense is missing a good amount of its best players, an Blaine is throwing to receivers that were lovin on the streets a couple weeks ago.
by Jdodd51208 on Dec 24, 2011 5:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gabbert played his best game of his career (whatever the stat sheet may say). He looked competent for two quarters.
Of course, this is against a Titans team that made McCown look good week 1, and Gabbert still only completed half of his passes to keep his completion percentage right where it was coming into the game. For those who don’t know, that’s second to last behind Tim Tebow.
Those complaining about the receivers need to understand that for the most part, receivers weren’t the issue in this game. Are they studs? No. Are they terrible? Not as much as people around this team seem to think.
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 24, 2011 6:05 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
*ahead of Tim Tebow
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 24, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
You thought Gabbert looked awful
Surprise, surprise
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 24, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did he say that?
No.
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Winston Churchill
by Conservative on Dec 24, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Did he say that?
No.
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Winston Churchill
by Conservative on Dec 24, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying they were the only issue? Or just one of a few issues?
Becuase they were certainly not the only issue in my mind. They were not good (again), but the offensive lline had their moments of awfulness and Blaine had 2 quarters of missing guys and happy feet. In my mind, another collective crappy offensive effort.
Wait...you didnt think the receivers were an issue this game?
Seriously? The were several drops, the most egregious of which was on the freaking 1 yard line ( I forget who it was right now). Cmon, man.
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He said "the issue", not "an issue". Cmon, man.
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by Conservative on Dec 24, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Dillard just keeps getting better.
His route running skill is really showing. He is the kind of receiver that just needs a QB to trust him to be open because he will – although just for only a second. I just wish he had caught that one long pass that he showed his vertical on.
I think MJD has the best hands on the team right now. I can’t believe he caught that bullet at close-range. I think sometimes Gabbert is playing hot-potato. That reminded me of a Leftwich pass.
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by Conservative on Dec 24, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dillard looked pretty good.
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 25, 2011 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
The Jaguars have, by far, the worst wide receivers in the NFL.
They are absolutely as terrible as people around this team seem to think.
To say he looked “competent for two quarters” is absolutely asinine. Which two quarters was he not competent? Why was he not competent for those two quarters?
I’m going to start calling you Stat Machine Brian, because you lean way, way too much on stats.
50% completions is not a good game.
He was sacked only once and hit much less than usual. He still missed on some passes, and he never took one deep shot even though he had the time. He was given the ball three times down two TDs in good field position against a vulnerable defense in the 4th quarter and came away with 7 points and a red zone INT.
I’m fine with the name Stat Machine Brian, btw.
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 25, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
He took one or two shots that were 25 to 30 yards down field
It’s hard to take deep shots when you dont have receivers that can burn a defense and get open.
The fact that you’re so hung on up stats says quite a bit. The 50% completion is meaningless. You have to look at where the incompletions come from, not the final number. Just like quarterback rating is meaningless.
I bet you equate completion percentage to accuracy, don’t you?
How can you say they are meaningless?
Completion percentage and passer rating are NOT meaningless. Perhaps they are less meaningful than Brian gives them credit, but you cannot disregard their impact on the game. The quarterback with the better passer rating wins the game about 3/4 of the time. That’s the definition of meaningFUL.
The debate about Gabbert should not be based on extremes of stats being final or being nothing. If you outright dismiss passer rating you are just being oblique to satisfy your own prejudices.
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I absolutely can discredit their impact on the game. First of all, QB rating has ABSOLUTELY NO MEANING to the game. It’s a made up convoluted formula that’s EASILY exploited and manipulated. It rewards playing it safe more than it does good quarterbacking.
I’ve always dismissed passer rating, because it’s a completely worthless made up stat that means nothing at all.
As far as completion percentage, there’s way too many factors to put it on a pedestal. Drops hurt it. Tipped passes hurt it. Throw aways hurt it. Too many people think completion % = accuracy, and it’s not even close.
Tom Brady was 7 of 19 for 85 yards and 3 sacks in the first half the other day
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Since you love stats, here's an interesting one for you
Since becoming the starter for the Jaguars, Blaine Gabbert has faced 7 of the top 12 defenses. I don’t believe any other rookie qb has faced as many top defenses.
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name a team with a worse WR corps than us?
I think only St. Louis might qualify as an answer here.
Doesn't matter, though.
With the offensive lines both you guys and the Rams have, any receivers would be lucky to see the ball coming out in a spiral, in their direction.
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The future is bright for this Titans squad.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 26, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Receivers need to attack the ball
Chastin West missed a nice back shoulder throw because he didn’t attack the ball, rather he waited for it to hit his chest, allowing the defender to break up the pass.
That was an excellent pass by Gabbert
We need to solidify our pass protection to get him time to make throws like that.
That was a very nice pass.
The corner just played great D and got his hand on it. Not West’s fault.
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by Brian Levenson on Dec 25, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
People need to realize that Gabbert is a work in progress
and he isn’t supposed to be good. Everyone in the league knew he would need some serious coaching. He is showing improvement and that is all anyone can hope for. Whether you like him or not, he is going to be here for the next few years and if you are a Jags fan then you need to stick by the man. We stick by all of our players, even guys like David Jones who are usually terrible. We are trying to build a franchise that consistently wins and we need all the support we can get.
I agree but it makes me mad
that we have a QB who isn’t suppose to be good. I know we can’t expect a lot from him but it frustrates me that we’re suppose to be ok with him sucking.
Gabbert is better than most of them (rookie seasons) Terry Bradshaw: 1 touchdown 18 interceptions 0 wins. Blaine Gabbert: (on the list) 11 touchdowns 10 interceptions 3 wins. Eli Manning had a poor rookie year too. the only QB on that list that had a better Rookie season than Gabbert was Troy Aikman. Will Gabbert be a Hall of Famer? No one knows. We do know that he hasn’t been the worst Rookie QB in NFL history. There will still be worse QBs than Gabbert in the future. What would you say if we drafted RG3 and got better receivers and better OL players (RT) and RG3 plays worse than Gabbert this year? What would you say to that? Would you call him a bust after his first season or would you stick with him?
It's All good!
You know what else Gabbert needs?
He needs a mentor like a Brunell or Pennington. Someone who’s been there and done that and can advise him what to look for and spell as needed.
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I was thinking the same thing, only with Brunell.
Maybe Big Ben too. Doctors did say one more concussion and he’ll have to retire. Unless he chooses to put his life at risk and gets another concussion. (After his next concussion.)
It's All good!
by Hurricane8765 on Dec 25, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Steelers never get concussions
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now it's called concussion like symptoms
How many Steelers have missed time due to concussions this season. Hell, we have have about 5 guys miss time and 1 go on IR and another won’t play again this year and may not get resigned by the Jags (Roth)
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I disagree with that
I think he played well at the beginning of the year, but he isn’t even our best DE. We can find another guy in the draft or FA for similar or less money to get the same, if not better, production. I’d rather us let Roth go and try and sign Avril from Detroit.
I might disagree with that statement
Roth is a grizzled vet. My biggest concern is the concussion thing.
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disagreement is fair
but if you do disagree, how far is the drop off? Is it enough to warrant sticking with Roth longer term when a patchwork guy (who also plays DT) has filled in relatively well?
the drop off is still far enough to where Roth is an entrenched starter when healthy
Douz is playing end in spots due to necessity. Heck, Daryl Smith played some defensive end the other day.
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I'd be very hesitant about committing a few million more to a guy who has suffered a concussion severe enough to miss a few ball games
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