Ring of Honor

by ruffdaddy on Dec 27, 2011 4:38 PM EST

A 4-11 record, 31 guys on injured reserve, a quarterback of the future who may not have one ... I needed a distraction from all the negativity so started thinking about the Ring of Honor and future honorees. The Ring, as you know, currently has one member, Tony Boselli; I believe that within the next three years it will have six more. See what you think about this schedule.

Fred Taylor: September, '12. Now that he's retired he's the obvious choice to go next, and Mr. Khan will want to get this done early in his new tenure.

Jimmy Smith: November, '12. That he's deserving for his performance on the field is unquestioned, the issue is the other stuff. Everything I read and hear about him currently is positive, though, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and including him. Might be too risky for Mr. Khan this early, but as a 17-year ticket holder who marvelled at Smith's contributions I'd love to see it happen.

Wayne Weaver: September, '13. Mr. Khan may want to do this immediately in 2012, but I'm thinking he settles in for a year before moving on this, and that Wayne would want it that way.

Mark Brunell: October, '13. If this isn't Mark's last year then certainly next year will be. I'd normally be in favor of waiting a year or more from retirement to induction, but Brunell deserves the exception.

Tom Coughlin: September, '14. For a guy on the hot seat every year he has been remarkably resiliant in New York and he may go on for years. This won't happen until after he leaves the Giants, but my hope is that he'll be back in Jax with a role with the Jags by 2104, and thus be a candidate for the Ring.

Brad Meester: November, 14. I'm assuming he'll play one more year, two max. To me he is the ultimate Jaguar ... smart, durable, the consumate team player, and very deserving of being honored.

So ... those are my thoughts, let me know yours.

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Boselli was inducted in October 2006

I think it’s pretty unlikely that we’ll see 6 inducted in the next 3 years after no one has made it in in the last 5.

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by Adam Stites on Dec 27, 2011 4:43 PM EST reply actions

concur

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by cuffs007 on Dec 27, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions

great choices

i see the next wave shaking up to be maybe MJD, Scobee, Daryl smith, Shean mathis(maybe) and stroud/henderson

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by Jaggaholic82 on Dec 27, 2011 5:08 PM EST reply actions

FeddyT and Wayne I am absolutely on board with.

But why Tom Coughlin? Nice guy and all, but no Super Bowl wins – or appearances for that matter. I say the HC needs a Super Bowl ring to get in.
I also don’t think the other guys should be in.

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by JPQ! on Dec 27, 2011 7:36 PM EST reply actions

Super Bowl rings with the Jags, of course.

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by JPQ! on Dec 27, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions

Tom Coughlin ...

… created the original Jaguars in his image, with discipline and tenacity, and took an expansion franschise to the AFC Championship game twice. This isn’t the Hall of Fame, where a Super Bowl record is likely required for a coach, it’s more personal to this city and franchise.

by ruffdaddy on Dec 27, 2011 8:05 PM EST reply actions

And JPQ ...

… if you disagree with Brunell, you must not have been here.

by ruffdaddy on Dec 27, 2011 8:07 PM EST reply actions

It's true...I was not. Moved here in 2004.

I don’t dislike Coughlin or Brunell, but I think you should have a super high ceiling for induction into the ring of honor. For a HC it should be bringing a championship to the city. Coughlin did a great job, and of course the team took on his image – he was running the show from day 1. He also led the team into catastrophe with his salary cap mismanagement. I say Super Bowl ring for coach to get in.
Brunell was good, but is he ring of honor worthy? I don’t know… He’s played elsewhere for a long time now. Are we just rewarding him for beating the Broncos?
My only problem with them is the Ring of Honor should be a rare, extremely elite honor. When it gets full it loses it’s meaning and becomes unimportant. Look at the Colts stupid ring of honor, it includes Bill Brooks and Jim Harbaugh…why???

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by JPQ! on Dec 27, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

mark brunell and coughlin

wouldnt be people you look at and say “why are they their they werent even that good”
they were the originals they made this team relevant for the first ten years of its existence and will forever be remembered as all time jags greats. thats what i want in the ring of honor.
ALL TIME GREATS
if you dont think they all time greats then you arent a jags fan.

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by Jaggaholic82 on Dec 28, 2011 9:44 AM EST up reply actions

I am a Jags fan, and don't tell me who I have to think is an all time great.

Because someone disagrees with you about putting everyone into the Ring of Honor doesn’t make them not a Jaguar fan. You don’t decide who is and isn’t a fan.
Being here when the team started doesn’t make them all time greats, it makes them importatnt to the Jags history, but not automatically worthy of the Ring of Honor..

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by JPQ! on Dec 28, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions

Who you want to put into the ring of honor

Is a matter of personal choice and my opinion is no more correct than yours my issue was with the notion that you made that Brunell wasn’t that good. If you believe that he does not deserve to be considered an all time jags great you’re wrong. Whether that means he should be put in the ring of honor is irrelevant. You said you moved in 04 so maybe you didn’t see him play every week but questioning brunelle play as a player is foolish he was a great player for the jags and was the qb for a great offense in the league. And making it out like his only accomplishment was beating the broncos is wrong on every level. He is an all time jags great he is by far the best qb in our history and it will take a Super Bowl win from someone else to dethrone him. So ring of honor or not Brunell is an all time jags great and if you disagree with that you would be the first person I’ve met that holds that view point

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by Jaggaholic82 on Dec 28, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions

I actually said "Brunell was good", no disagreement here.

And I definitely agree with the fact that he was the best QB in our very short history. You could make a case for him to be in there, as you have done well. I personally don’t agree that he has done enough to be inducted, but you are 100% right that it’s just individual opinion. If he was inducted, I would be in my seat cheering as much as the next guy. I just hope we limit the number of honorees, so it doesn’t lessen the importance of the distinction of being in there.
I am all for honoring Jaguars and building a history. I just don’t want to force it so it seems contrived… All the guys mentioned in this piece could have a case, but if you start indicting everybody, it loses it’s luster.

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by JPQ! on Dec 28, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions

Inducting, not indicting...whoops!

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by JPQ! on Dec 28, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions

Freudian slip for sure

Nothing to do with his money issues.

On another note, I think Brunell would be a good signing as a backup here next year. Chew on that for a minute,

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by Joe Fisher on Dec 29, 2011 7:45 PM EST up reply actions

I'd like to see...

Freddy and Mr. Weaver get in together on the same day in 2012, maybe the home opener. I am also against all of the other guys getting in right now.

I still believe that Jimmy hurt our chances the year he “retired”, and don’t believe the public knows the extent of his off of the field actions. If he gets in, it should be awhile, we need to make sure his off the field tendencies are really behind him, no need to embarrass the city anymore.

I was here for Tom Coughlin and Mark Brunell, and while I love everything they did for us, Tom never got the big one, and yes I do think it matters, and Mark was great but for far to short a period of time. Remember the standards we hold each inductee to will set the precedent for the future, and Mark had four playoff seasons, and lost two AFC championships. We should expect better of our “ring”. As Maxwell Smart would say “they missed it by that much”.

Meester should probably get the nod a few years after he retires, since he played at a high level his whole career here.

by FanofJag on Dec 27, 2011 9:47 PM EST reply actions