A Full offseason v1.0
by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 1:53 AM EST
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Print With the season now winding down I see no point in thinking about the past and what might have been. On to the future we shall go. But were should the Jaguars go exactly? We all know that Shad Khan wants to win and win big in Jacksonville and I think he's willing to spend quiet a pretty penny to do it. However, he's a smart business man and he'll spend that penny wisely. But, on who? There's the coaching staff to consider since they all are operating on contracts that will expire in about a week. The players in free agency who may demand big bucks to come to Jacksonville. Who will the draft picks be? So lets gets started on the future!
Coaching Staff:
HC: Rob Chudzinski (Current Panthers OC): Chud has turned one of the NFL's worst offenses in 2010 into one of the top 10 in 2011.
OC: Pete Carmichael, Jr. (Current Saints OC): he's more of the honorary OC with the Saints as Sean Peyton calls most of the plays so I think he could very well jump at the opportunity to be an actual offensive coordinator.
DC: Mel Tucker (Current Jags DC and Interm HC): I think Mel will test the waters after the season, but will come back to Jacksonville.
STC: Mike Priefer (Current Vikings STC): The internet thinks highly of him.
Free Agency:
Note: I'm dividing FA into two parts: Resign and Sign.
Resign: (I'm going off contracts on Madden so if there are any I've missed/screwed any up please tell me)
- LB Darryl Smith
- DE Jeremy Mincey
- FS Dwight Lowery
- RB Rashad Jennings
- K Josh Scobee
- DE/DT Leger Douzable
- CB William Middlton
- WR Jarrett Dillard
- DT C.J. Moseley
- LB Russell Allen
- OL Kevin Haslem
- QB Luke McCown
- CB Kevin Rutland
- WR Mike Wallace (Currently withe Steelers): Career Stats: 170 Recs, 3195 yards, 24 TDs, 18.8 yd avg
- WR Harry Douglas (Currently with the Falcons): Career Stats: 84 Rec, 1112 yds, 3 TDs, 13.2 yd avg
- DE Cliff Avril (Currently with the Lions): Career Stats: 133 Tkls, 30 Scks, 14 FF
- DE Kroy Biermann (Currently with the Falcons): Career Stats: 139 Tkls, 12 Scks, 1 FF
Wallace: I know the chances of Wallace leaving Pittsburgh are lower than a snowballs chance in the Sahara, but just let me fantasize here for a minute! Wallace takes the top off of defenses every game and he would be the first truly deep threat that the Jags have had since Keenan.
Douglas: He's probably the more likely of the two. He's had a quiet, yet productive career so far and I think he could blossom into a star in Jacksonville.
Avril: signing Avril would create a very consistent pass rush. It would also allow Mincey to move back to LE. Avril would also bring to Jacksonville some of the swagger and nastiness that the Lions' D plays with.
Biermann: He started 14 games for Atlanta back in '10 and he would be like another John Chick.
Draft:
1st: CB Morris Claiborne LSU 6'0'' 185lbs
2nd: OC Michael Brewster Ohio State 6'5'' 302lbs
3rd: OT Tony Bergstrom Utah 6'6'' 315lbs
4th: WR T.Y. Hilton FIU 5'10'' 183lbs
5th: LB Bobby Wagner Utah State 6'1'' 232lbs
6th: WR B.J. Cunningham Michigan St 6'2'' 223lbs
Explanation: (Some of these come from my previous mock draft)
Claiborne: Morris Claiborne: This one's pretty self-explanatory. I don't think we're going to keep Rashean and Claiborne across from Cox with the law firm of Landry & Lowery behind them would give the Jags a good secondary for years to come.
Brewster: He's fallen a little bit on the boards and I think he could be a steal in the 2nd. He's been starter at OSU since he was a freshman. He could learn from Meester in '12 and start in '13.
Bergstrom: Bergstrom: A mammoth of a tackle who was a 4-year starter at Utah. I think he has the talent and the brains (he's majoring in Chemical Engineering) to come in and start at RT next year.
Hilton: The little speedster from Miami would be steal in the 4th round. What the 4-year starter lacks in height he makes up for in speed, quickness, agility, and hands. He also has experience as both a kickoff and punter returner.
Wagner: He's in the top 5 in tackles in WAC history and I believe that he would be a great addition to the team. He has experience at both MLB and OLB. I could see him potentially taking over for Darryl Smith in the future.
Cunningham: He's a big target who would be great for going across the middle and going up on jump balls. He's the type of player who's faster with pads on than he'll be at the combine or pro day. I think he could eventually start in the league.
Note: We can get a UDFA punter or two or sign a veteran before camp.
Projected Roster: QB: Gabbert & McCown
RB: Jones-Drew, Jennings, & Karim
FB: Jones & Owens
WR: Wallace, Douglas, Thomas, Dillard, Hilton, Cunningham, & Osgood
TE: Lewis, Miller, & Potter
LT: Monroe & Bradfield
LG: Britten & Rackley
C: Meester & Brewster
RG: Nwaneri & Haslem
RT: Bergstrom & Haslem
LE: Mincey & Biermann
RE: Avril & Chick
DT: Knighton, Alualu, Douzable, Moseley, & Collins
OLB: Sessions & Allen
MLB: Posluszny & Bosworth
OLB: Smith & Wagner
CB: Cox, Claiborne, Coleman, Middleton, & Rutland
FS: Lowery & Isaac
SS: Landry & Prosinski
K: Scobee
P: Somebody
Please comment and tell me what you think.
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Keenan... a deep threat?
I don’t think Bergstrom makes it to the third and I just can’t see taking a center in round 2, especially if he’s supposed to develop. But I’m with you as far as rebuilding the O-line. It all starts there.
save your attitude i got one of my own
I took the average round that bunch of sides gave me and they came to be early 3rd which is where we’ll be picking. Picking Brewster in the 2nd is BAP IMO and he could be Insurence in case me ester decides to retire.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
*sites not sides….damn autocorrect.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
More seasoned veteran QB backup
This is one spot I would like to see upgraded. A seasoned veteran that can not only push Gabbert in camp, but be a better mentor on the sidelines
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by MadKow on Dec 29, 2011 7:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Coaches coach, players play. I think a better QB Coach will do wonders for Gabbert's progression (as we've seen in the last few weeks with Kottler taking over as QB coach being Gabbert's most improved weeks mechanically)
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Also thinking if Gabbert goes down
Do you really want McCown as our back up? He does not impress me at all.
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True...just don't know if they'll bring in a vet or a late round rook or undrafted prospect guy....still got other holes that come first.
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Coaches coach, players play...
but change the coach and the player would be a lot better? You just directly contradicted yourself. Either way, I don’t buy it.
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by Brian Levenson on Jan 1, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions
I’d agree with that. Just when I made this it was 1am and I wanted to go to bed so I stayed with McCown.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:16 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I cant remember if Mike Wallace is a FA or not
but I do know that Desean Jackson will test the market and I know he can be a pain, but he provides the same thing Wallace does and there is a better chance of us signing him. I like Douglas and Avril, but I don’t think Bierman will leave Atlanta. That seems like a lot of money, but if we could do it, I would do that in a heartbeat. Our team would be a playoff team next year with the draft as well.
Wallace is an FA trust me, I spent a hour looking up and comparing guys last night. And I thin he’d be easier so sign because he’d probably cost less than Jackson in several ways.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:18 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Mike Wallace
is a restricted Free agent, so the Jaguars would have to give up a pick in order to get him. I’m not sure but I’m guessing that Wallace would have a first round tender on him
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by theMAGICman on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Very good point. I guess that’s why this is version 1 lol
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and TY Hilton is one small school player
I wouldn’t mind Gene drafting. He has speed and more speed.
Don't coaches usually bring in their own staff? (OC, DC, etc....)
Then I’d doubt that it would be 1/2 of these guys if that’s the case…
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You honestly expect me to know who’s in these guy’s inner circle of coaching friends?
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:19 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No, I don't. But I expected it to look resonable. I see zero percent chance of the majority of the coaching decisions happening unfortunately (not to be critical or anything)
but Carmichael Jr isn’t coming here for an equal position and I’d even bet that Tucker won’t come back as anything but a HC after having the interim title too…just figured this isn’t much of a mock offseason, more a “we hope” aka if the world were perfect offseason report.
I have no true problems with the free agents and such, just mainly the obviousness that the coaching arrangement wouldn’t happen made me comment on it.
-Though I also doubt Gene waits til that late in the draft to touch on WR again….
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Sorry not meaning to jump all over you or anything. I just wasn’t thinking about coaching trees and families last night. What Joe suggests below (Shula as OC) is probably a good idea. As far as DC who do have in mind?
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest, I'm not sure...I kinda like that lol...
As John O says…this hiring won’t happen in the media (so it’s likely we won’t be able to guess it anyways lol). Not even sure if the HC that is picked IS Chud doesn’t necessarily mean that the DC will even be a moderately big name…
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Very true. I mean did any one know who Mel Tucker was before he was hired? No, he came out of no where as well. So I think you have a really good point about Coordinators and assistants being unknown type coaches. It probably fits with Gene’s montra of taking small school players lol
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
+1000000000 LOL
"Sad fact about our generation: Most ppl would rather hear "you look good" than "you are good". We spend thousands a year on cars, clothes, & cosmetics; Forget that. I can give you a Bible for free. Save money, save your soul. Get right with the Savior, Jesus Christ."- Travis D. Holmes
I'll help you out here...
If Chudzinski got the job, how about Mike Shula for OC (current Panthers and former Jags QB coach) and Kerwin Bell as QB coach. Not sure of Bell’s relationship to Chud, but he’d be a wildly popular hire in this area.
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Very good idea I hadn’t thought of that.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
love your offseason pickups
and draft. best offseason report ive seen on this site IMO. especially the bj cunningham pickup
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Thank you bet much!
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
*very
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I am quite confused byt the coaching staff
Chud would be a good head coach becuase he is aa good offensive coordinator?!! Very different skills needed to be an effective HC vs an effective coordinator. JDR is a perfect example you should be able too relate as a good coordinator but a poor HC. Then you have PCJ coming on as OC purely becuase he could playcall here and not in NO?!! I HIGHLY DOUBT he would come to Jacksonville for an equivalent title to what he has in New Orleans under Payton and with Brees as his QB. Then you go ahead and geet rid of Purnell because…..
Then your FA acquisitions are also a bit off IMO. Not really sure why the team should spend money on Biermann. If you want another Chick, go find a ridiculous pass rushing DE in the CFL looking to prove himself in the NFL. That is how you find yourself aother John Chick.
As for my issues with your mock draft. In the second round, there is going to be a better player than Brewster to be taken so by BAP he is a poor pick. I also think C is not enough of a need to warrant him as the pick for a need based draft. As for the 2 WRs, I like Hilton in the 4th, but I think CUnnigham in the 6th is highly unlikely since he probbaly is gone by middle of the 5ht round. Jodan White might inexplicably find his way down to the 6th and he is a guy to strongly consider. Brian Quick might find his way down due to him being pretty raw and having played at Appalachian State(although this is HIGHLY DOUBTFUL). He could also be a WR to consider.
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The stuff you say about Chud is pretty much the same that people said about Bill Walsh back in the late ‘70s. who knows PCJ might really want to have his his own offense since as I said in the post he’s more of a honorary OC than a play calling one. He could love to have his own offense for once. Purnell might want to retire and a new coach might want to bring in a new STC.
I’m not evening going to touch your comments on FA.
How is there a better player, going by BAP as I was, in the 2nd? You may not realize this but Meester is in his 13th season and even he can’t hold up for much longer. Do really want John Estes to be our center? BJ Cunningham will be brought down by his 40 time at the combine that’s what will drop him to the 6th. Jordan White, while good, maybe a product of a system, a la Crabtree. And please name one player from Appalachian State that has ever succeeded in the NFL?
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
1)Sure, Walsh was good, but you cannot say it was known he would be such a great HC becuase of the offesnive sytem he ran.
2)PCJ is at the point where he need not make parallel shifts from OC to OC. He is good right where he is and will look for a move to HC
3)Purnell might retire, but that is pure specualtion and a little ridiculous to assume
4)Pretty high and mighty not touching the FA comments. You must realize I am right.
5)Brewster is not a BAP plain and simple, He is a 2nd-3rd round guy and a 1st rounder is likely going to fall enough to the 2nd that he would be BAP
6)Center is a need, but the talent is not there for an early 2nd round pick. Brewster could be had in the 3rd, and you could even probably get a guy like Vlachos from Alabama in the 4th or 5th round
7)BJ Cunningham will probably run no slower than a 4.6 which should not be enough to have him fall much lower than the 5th, If he does fall, I am not opposed to the pick persay, but I find it unlikely that that happens
8)Jordan White is a very impressive player who unlike Crabtree would be a 6th rounder or so. The potential is there, and regardless of what you say I think he is not simply a product of a specific system.
9)There is always a first player from a given college ti succeed and to pass on someone purely becuase no one from his college has succeeded in the NFL is stupid.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
2) You’re telling me not to assume what coaches and players might do but your doing the same thing. Of course this is speculation. We have no idea who will be hired to the various coaching spots. That’s why this is called a mock.
3) You also missed the jist of my point here. A new coach will most likely want to bring in his own STC and Priefer is considered a rising STC.
4) I didn’t touch your comments on FA because they’re dumb. Do you realize what a sheer stroke of luck it was finding Chick? Biermann has actually started almost a full season before and I believe he’s a better player than Chick.
5) Name one player that will be there at the beginning of the 2nd round that will be better than Brewster? I’m sure you can, but that’s not the point. This is a Mock. It’s what could happen. I believe that Brewster represents the perfect blend of BAP and a need…kinda like Eugene Monroe was in ‘09. Plus if we wait to the 3rd to take Brewster then we lose out on Bergstrom who will be gone by the 4th…and Bergstom is like one pick you haven’t complained about.
6) I’m going under the assumption that Gene doesn’t trade back and acquire picks. That makes each of the 6 picks crucial. You can’t hope that a good C will be there in the later rounds. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith…do Derek Cox, Terrance Knighton, and Tyson Alualu ring any bells?
7) I really don’t care if we take Cunningham in the 5th or the 6th but I think 6th is more realistic.
8) White maybe there in the 6th and I think he’s talented, but he’s not who I would pick.
9) You make a valid point here.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
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avril and wallace are both already resigned by their respective teams. maybe colston and douglas. i dont expect a big name pass rusher via free agency. there arent many. now mario williams is a longshot but would be perfect.
He could be what we wanted Kampman to be.
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Ur probably right. The list of FAs I was using was a bit dated
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Mario Williams would be price and hard to get but would be awesome!
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 29, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to add Williams
If he wants to play as 4-3 DE and not a 3-4 LB I think we have a good chance
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 30, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
He may want to go back to a 4-3
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what I'm thinking
He is a monster in a 4-3, he is ok a LB but he isn’t the same player.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 30, 2011 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Cut Deji, please
There is too much potential behind him. Give snaps to Brock Bolen, just don’t keep Deji Kareem.
Deji has already played his last game in jacksonville
by Slawsc on Dec 29, 2011 10:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I like Hilton but his game versus Marshall in the Beef O’ Brady bowl was not convincing.
by Catfanatic1979v1 on Dec 29, 2011 10:43 PM EST reply actions
The bowl game wasn’t his best, but I think when you evaluate prospects you have to look at their entire body of work.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 1:46 AM EST up reply actions
From What I have been reading on the Net>>>>>>>>>
I have been seeing that most mock drafts have us picking either Blackmon, or Claiborne with our first round pick, and both of those mocks are fine with me. As far as Brewster goes, I do think that he will fall to the thrid round, and I think Vlachos would have better value in the 4th, then brewster in the 2nd or even the third, quite honestly the person on the buckeyes no one seems to be talking about that I think we could get late and be great value is devier Posey(WR). I do like your thoughts on the rest of FA and the draft(ty hilton is a great thought< but hows this one as well for a WR/playmaker- Eric Page university of toledo, UT has many WRs that seem to step up in the NFL and be good players-lance moore, stephen williams, etc etc and honestly I think page is better then both of them. Either way I believe that this year Gene Smith had better step up and get some stars, and get them from div 1 teams, there is too much talent we are overlooking in div 1, instead we are getting these small injury prone players from small div 2 or 3 schools, and that crap needs to stop. We need another RB, Many WR’s and some work on our tackles and guards, Uche can take over for meester if needed. I think we had better get a top notch WR in FA, and take at least 2 playmaking WR in the draft, and then some O liners in the draft, and like you said- Resign our Defensive FA’s- Chick, lowery, landry, coleman, etc, and yes a top notch or good DE in FA would be nice as well(avril is staying with detroit, but we could find one in FA this year, as I dont really like what the draft has to offer this year at that position(crick is good though, but coples? nah I just dont think he will pan out) or maybe even look up at the CFL (ala chick) for one
I think Brewster is BAP based on his position and the Centers in the draft. Vlachos is good but think he maybe a bit hyped because he plays for Bama.
As far as DeVier Posey: I really like what I’ve seen (My dad’s an OSU fan so trust me I’ve a lot of Posey over the last 4 years), however I think Gene maybe a bit hesitant to draft he based on the fact he was involved in the whole scandal at OSU and was suspended most of the season for his involvement.
Eric Page is a Junior so he won’t be coming out this year.
A top notch receiver as you say isn’t exactly necessary…although it is nice. A new running back to take Deji’s spot might be needed after this year. Also the “many WRs” as you say Idk about that. I think Mike Thomas and Jarrett Dillard are good options and if we could fill in around them (draft one or two, sign one or two in FA, and the UDFAs) we’ll be fine.
For OL talent: I think that could possibly be addressed this offseason, but I’m not sure.
Oh and Dawan Landry signed a 4 yr contract and Drew Coleman signed a 3 yr one (if I’m not mistaken) so they won’t be going anywhere soon.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 1:54 AM EST up reply actions
I generally like this
Like your draft particularly the Claiborne pick but picking 2.3 to 2.7 I’d take an elite WR or T with the 2nd pick.
I’d only take on WR in free agency. The two DEs are nice and beliievable pick ups but I’m a little concerned we don’t have enough DEs. Douzable can come across but how about dumping a WR or DT for Austen Lane or Roth??? I haven’t seen enough games but has Chick been better than Roth.
Actually in what order would you put our DE pecking order, they’ve changed so often I can’t keep up.
Mincey, Chick, Roth, Lane, Douzable, Schiechl, Hart,??? where would Avril and Biermann slot in the order?
What could of happened; did.
oh damn….I didn’t realize I cut Lane. I meant to keep him on the roster. I cut Roth because of his lingering concussion symptoms and I thought Gene wouldn’t want to take up a roster spot with a guy who couldn’t play.
As for a pecking order:
LE: Mincey, Biermann, Lane
RE: Avril, Chick, Schiechl
Douzable can play at DE like he did this year if there are injuries or if we wanted to go with a 3-4 look with:
LE: Douzable
RE: Alualu
NT: Knighton
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
My adaped draft and depth chart
1st: CB Morris Claiborne LSU 6’0’’ 185lbs
2nd: WR Dwight Jones NC or Kendall Wright Baylor
3rd: OT Tony Bergstrom Utah 6’6’’ 315lbs
4th: LB Tank Carder TCU
5th: LB Bobby Wagner Utah State 6’1’’ 2lbs
6th: P best one available
QB: Gabbert, McCown, LeFevour
RB: Jones-Drew, Jennings, & Harris
FB: Jones & Owens
WR: , Douglas, DWIGHT JONES, Thomas, Dillard, Shorts, & Osgood
TE: Lewis, Potter
LT: Monroe & Haslem
LG: Britten & Rackley
C: Meester & Estes
RG: Nwaneri & Spitz
RT: Bergstrom & Britten
LE: Mincey & Biermann, Douzable
RE: Avril & Chick, Austen Lane
DT: Knighton, Alualu, , Moseley, & D’Anthony Smith
OLB: Sessions & Allen
MLB: Posluszny & Carder
OLB: Smith & Wagner
CB: Cox, Claiborne, Coleman, Isaac, Middleton, & Rutland
FS: Lowery & Prosinski
SS: Landry & Greene
K: Scobee
P: Somebody
What could of happened; did.
2) Why the hell does everyone want to draft Dwight Jones????? I really don’t see the fascination with him. I’ve watched film on him and he’s a good prospect, but I’m not that impressed. I guess its because I had to sit through the Matt Jones and Reggie Williams era of big WRs (when I say big I mean 6’4’’+) and I don’t want a repeat of that.
Now if Kendall Wright is there at 2.3-2.7 then I think he’d be worth taking over an OC.
4) I had forgotten that Carder was coming out this year. I think he’d be worth taking in the 4th. I just think that we should leave the draft with more than one WR.
QB: Why keep LeFevour?
TE: Why no Zach Miller?
For the entire OL: If we’re going to draft Bergstrom then I think we should honestly trade Britten into more picks. We could probably get a 6th rounder from a stupid team (Hello Oakland).
DT: Still keeping D’Anthony Smith?
For the Secondary: 6 CBs? I think that we’d be better served in the long run with having Isaac at FS and Prosinski at SS IMO.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
What?
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
This
I guess its because I had to sit through the Matt Jones and Reggie Williams era of big WRs (when I say big I mean 6’4’’+) and I don’t want a repeat of that
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You don’t draft scared
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 30, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not drafting scared. Its drafting on past experience.
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
What does past experience have to do with these players?
They weren’t the ones who didn’t perform up to expectations.
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I’m simply saying that we haven’t had much success drafting big WRs
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by montanajagsfan on Dec 30, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
so because a guy is tall
you shouldn’t draft him?
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by rhettchrystal on Dec 31, 2011 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Well for one
thats not Gene’s experience so I don’t think that would come into play. But either way it is being scared of what happened prior, you have to draft based on the individual’s talent and potential not what someone else did or didn’t do.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Dec 31, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Not Wallace
no Wallace for our Jags …..it be nice but no cigar , he will get a first round tender …..We sign Robert Meachem instead , pickup Garcon and some young guys in the draft …..
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