Jaguars Will Have to Be Aggressive About a Quarterback
It's no secret the Jacksonville Jaguarsare in the hunt for a quarterback in the 2011 NFL draft. The team met with Nevada's Colin Kaepernick, Auburn's Cam Newton, and Arkansas' Ryan Mallett over the weekend at the NFL combine. I'm sure they met with most of the quarterbacks there, but teams and players have been more tight lipped than usual this year as to who they interview and interview with. The big question most Jacksonville Jaguars fans have now is, when do you take that guy? In the first round? In the second round? Do you trade back up into the first round?
Kind of piggybacking off of what Brian Levenson wrote, the Jaguars are going to have to be aggressive.
I've written in the past that the vast majority of good quarterbacks in the NFL are found in the first round of the draft. It's no secret that it's a position of great value and necessity for football teams. Quarterbacks have such a high bust rate because team reach on them often, because of the importance of the position. As we all know, the Jaguars haven't drafted a quarterback in any round since Byron Leftwich in 2003. I'm not going to beat that dead horse, because we all know it's been way too long.
It's almost a given the Jaguars will draft their quarterback of the future in April, the question is just when will they do it. If you look back through drafts, if you're selecting a quarterback beyond the middle of the second round the chances they develop into anything but mediocre is very slim. It's not necessarily a science of drafting a quarterback, simply just a wacky coincidence of the past 20 years or so. In the 2011 draft however, I have a feeling the Jaguars are going to be aggressive to get their quarterback and I think they know they have to. If the Jaguars come away after April 29th without a quarterback selected, I'll be stunned.
Why do I think they'll be so aggressive? Well, despite how "deep" the quarterback class is... the number of teams who are in need of a quarterback is just as deep. Let's take a look at who picks ahead of the Jaguars in each round that need a quarterback.
Carolina Panthers
Despite the fact that the Panthers selected Jimmy Clausen in the second round last year, many feel they're still in the hunt for a quarterback. Whether that's an indictment of Clausen or just a new regime wanting their guy remains to be seen. The Panthers pick before the Jaguars in the first round.
Denver Broncos
Like the Panthers, the Broncos selected a quarterback in last year's NFL draft. Good ol' Tim Tebow. It's come out however that Tebow was essentially a Josh McDaniels pick and the front office wasn't too enamored with it. The feeling right now is that the new regime of John Fox and John Elway are equally not as enamored. The Broncos, like the Jaguars, have a bride at the quarterback position with Kyle Orton. The Broncos pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Buffalo Bills
While the Bills do all the lip service they can on Ryan Fitzpatrick, the truth is like David Garrard his simply a bridge to the next one. The Bills will take a quarterback at some point in the first few rounds. The Bills currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Cincinnati Bengals
Carson Palmer wants out of Cincinnati, even going so far as to say he won't step foot in Paul Brown Stadium again. I'm not sure if the Bengals will dump him, but I think they're in the hunt for a new franchise quarterback. The Bengals currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Arizona Cardinals
While the Cardinals drafted two quarterbacks last year in Max Hall and John Skelton, the feeling around the league is they're still on the hunt. I do not think they will draft a quarterback in the first round, but I do think the second round is a very good possibility if they do not make a play for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb. The Cardinals currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Tennessee Titans
It's no secret whatsoever the Titans will be drafting a quarterback early. They've all but cut Vince Young loose and all they have left is Kerry Collins and Rusty Smith. The Titans currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Washington Redskins
The Donovan McNabb experiment was a failure and it's unsure if he'll even be on their roster for the 2011 season. It's also widely known the Redskins love Jake Locker, who I think they draft with the 10th overall pick. The Redskins currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Minnesota Vikings
With Brett Favre retiring and likely letting Tarvaris Jackson hit free agency, the Vikings are in dire need of a quarterback. Many feel they will address it in free agency, but the draft is also very possible. The Vikings currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
San Francisco 49ers
The 49ers will likely keep Alex Smith on their roster in 2011, but that doesn't mean they don't need quarterback help. There are murmurs they may address it in free agency or be in the Kevin Kolb race, but drafting one is also very likely. The 49ers currently pick before the Jaguars in the first and second round.
Miami Dolphins
The Miami Dolphins brass clearly aren't very pleased with how Chad Henne has progressed. Many feel they will also be in the hunt for a quarterback in the draft. The Dolphins currently pick before the Jaguars in the first round.
So, that's 10 teams by my count that need to address the quarterback position early in the 2011 NFL Draft. Eight of those ten teams draft before the Jacksonville Jaguars in the first and second round. By many counts, most feel there are only 3-4 quarterbacks who are "first round guys" and then there are another 3-4 who are "second round guys". On draft day, depending on which quarterbacks are the Jaguars target, they're going to have to go and grab their guy even if he's not the best available player or pick the best available player at 16, then come back up to leap frog those other teams at the top of the second round.
Or they can sit at pick 49 in the second round and pray those 10 teams pass on a potential franchise quarterback, twice. I guess they could wait until the third round, and hope those teams pass for a third time on some potential quarterbacks, but the statistics bear out that quarterbacks taken beyond the top of the second round generally don't pan out.
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The CBA is the key to it all
If they get the CBA done, multiple guys who you have mentioned like Kolb, Palmer, McNabb, Young, etc I think would all be on the move either before or during the draft and help fill a lot of those holes. Those are four guys I just mentioned, and you could look even at a Matt Flynn or somebody like that somebody could buy into as well, that could take up a lot of the NEED for a QB for half the teams you mentioned. If the CBA doesn’t happen… well then QB in the draft carries a much heftier price tag.
Personally, I think the ideal scenario is CBA gets done, Jags get a stud defensive player in the first and are then able to trade up into the top of the 2nd so they would only have to give up their 2nd and maybe the extra 4th rounder (or lower) they have to get a Ponder or a Kaepernick to raise up.
WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?
That’s exactly what I think happens. I think they go DE or LB at 16 and leapfrog Bufflo for their QB.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised either to see them just grab their guy at 16, either.
All depends who’s available. Pretty sure they won’t select Jimmy Smith, as his concerns are mounting. Not sure if Harris is worth 16 overall.
I'm just hoping
they do draft Harris. He’s one of 3 or 4 players I hope we draft with our first pick.
Harris
was good at the combine.
"Don't go away Mad, Just go away."
by rhettchrystal on Mar 2, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think at this point there isn't much I would be shocked by...
Unless Gene pulls RB round 1. That would legitimately surprise me, but even that wouldn’t upset me. With a rebuilding team with so many holes, the off season is so damn exciting because you just add to what you’ve got. Build it up and look ahead…
I’m with you though, your scenario is what I see / hope to see shake down. I know I say this at least once a day somewhere on the site, but I REALLY hope the CBA gets done before the draft. The draft day trades and free agency before and after make it SO much more exciting and give teams a lot of room to make adjustments other than just picking players from college that day.
WTF IS THE INTERNET?!?
Acceptance
Alfie, As much as it pains you, you are going to have to accept DG as our QB. No relief in sight. As long as were talking acceptance, please try to realize that it was our defense, not DG that cost us the playoffs last year. Why do you seem to hate DG so much?
yeah... DG's the man -
but you can’t look past the talent of this year’s class. Sure some of those guys will bust, but I don’t remember a year with talent for QB and DE like this year. To be fair I’ve only started following the draft closely about 5 years now.
by Jaghomer on Mar 2, 2011 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How 'bout we stop the Alfie bashing...
…regarding DG. It’s really getting old. Stick to the article as written and stop reading between the lines. What Alfie has written is quite possibly fact. What BIBBEE has added is also a factor. I agree with Alfie’s assessment, I’ve posted it a couple of times.
Alfie’s feelings about DG have no bearing on this article, and are not imposed on us by him. As Vic would say, what’s with all the hate? It’s the dead zone. We have to talk about something, and the guys who write for this site have to come up with the articles that will entertain us and inspire conversation. It must be tough, and I applaud all their efforts.
Let’s stick with football talk, not member bashing. If there is a lock out, this site and every other site, is going to be straining to keep their members entertained. So, we’ll need to be a little more patient and respectful.
by whazaaap on Mar 2, 2011 9:58 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Who are you?
No one was bashing your boy. Every article writtrn by Alfie seemes to imply that we have to replace DG. Anyone who knows anything about football should realize that he is one of our least problems.Our defense is a bad joke. Write about that!
I'll spell it out.
The reason we have not drafted a QB since Leftwich is Shaq Harris destroyed our roster and we’ve been playing catch up every since. We were lucky to have DG on our roster when it became crystal clear that Byron was nothing but a back up in the NFL. To make a long story short, our current GM believes in building through the draft. We have way too many needs to draft anyone in the first round whose not going to start. The only way we could afford to draft a QB in the first round, would be to attack free agency with lots of $$$. Aint gonna happen!
Maybe trade down?
I think we will have to use the first round pick to get our QB….However, It would be the best of all worlds if we would find someone wanting to moveup in the first round to #16 to get a particular DE/LB/CB, get an extra pick 3rd, and move down to 20’s and take our QB.
by CaptB on Mar 2, 2011 11:05 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
good article, Alfie
Assuming all things being equal, we must differentiate between real and immediate need and imminent need when discussing qbs. Your list of teams is a good one. Surprised you left Seattle off the list as that seems to be the team that a lot of the national pundits think need a qb… nevermind the Charlie Whitehurst signing last year.
I like the way you broke it up into a 2 round derby, but quite frankly, if you look at the teams listed, they all have holes that can be seen as bigger than the qb, aside from perhaps the Niners and Arizona and maybe the Vikes (though you could say the Metrodome is a bigger hole).
I think we’re going to pick one in the 2nd round quite honestly and may be the catalyst for a run on qbs. I still have a feeling that we’re going to be doing some dealing with New England to take a pick or 2 from them.
And for the bash comment, personally, I did not see anywhere in there where you bashed the incumbent. You called him what he is, a bridge, at this point in his career. To call this article a bash is poor reading comprehension.
by Joe Fisher on Mar 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I dont see that
I see Gene taking his qb even if it is a reach.
by ctjags on Mar 2, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think you agressivly follow BAP.....
and if that happens to land you a QB in the first, then so be it. I would hope it lands us someone for the defensive secondary / linebacker. I have no problem with the BIBBEE / Alfie notion of trading up in the second to get the future QB. I feel strong that if we can build up the back part of the defense, David Garrard can get us where we need to go, but not forever, so its a great time to get someone to develop.
Predictions
This what I’ve been thinking for a while now. We go BAP in the first (hopefully defensive person is there for us.). Then, possibly trade up in the 2nd to get our QB. Would not be shocked if we grab a guy at 16 either. I’m in no way a fan of college football, but I have become a Ponder homer for some reason.
by SoulSlide9 on Mar 2, 2011 12:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree
No way we don’t come out of the first two rounds without a QB. I know before the combine a lot of people were high on Dalton but Alfie is right, most QB’s outside of the second round become little more than serviceable.
by KillJag on Mar 2, 2011 1:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Trade back in the 1st round...
and take the qb. If that proves to be difficult, take him at 16, especially if it is Locker.
@foryourhandicap
Hello
i’m a lurker on this site & a closet Jaguars fan. i have a question regarding taking QB in the 1st round….with Del Rio clearly in a “playoffs or else” mode from Big W is a QB really going to be what he’s going after? I can clearly see CB or a DE or even a WR if by some faint miracle a good one is out there but QB i think waits.
To be fair, Weaver never actually said playoffs or else. That’s just the assumption from reading his comments.
Too True
Weaver definitely only said that he expects to be playing in January next year. There was no “or else” attached to it. How can you fire a coach if he goes 10-6, with our schedule mind you, and still does not manage to get a wild card birth because two other teams just happen to eek out 11-5 seasons? That is of course assuming that Del Rio goes 10-6 mind you. But, it would be a pretty dumb move to fire him after that season…

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