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I see lots of people try to use Sam Bradford as an example to start Blaine Gabbert, and it's one of the most shortsighted things I've ever seen written/said. Just stop, please. They're not in the same situation. Both QBs were spread guys in college, but when the Rams drafted Bradford, he was the number one pick; the consensus top player in the draft and a pro-ready talent. They also had some guy named Kieth Null quarterbacking their team, so it's not like they could have done any worse with Bradford than they already had.

OK, now that I'm done twisting Alfie's words to my devilish whims, I do have a legitimate point to make.

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A lot of the talk surrounding Gabbert is misguided. Teams have had great success in recent NFL history playing rookie QBs, however, each case is different. Matt Ryan was taken with pick #3, and Sam Bradford was a #1 pick as was Matt Stafford. Ryan was effective early in his career, but he went to a solid, up and coming team. If you remember, pre-draft day, there were also some wild stories about Ryan. Apparently, in a meeting with the Falcons, they handed him some plays to look at. Later in the interview he popped all of the plays he was given up on the board, then called them with the NFL terminology, broke down options routes etc. Basically, after only seeing plays once, he could run an NFL offense. The "Sam Bradford came from the spread too therefore they are the exact same person and Gabbert should be treated exactly like Bradford" case is also being used as a way of justifying Gabbert being pushed into the starting job.

Just so we are clear here: Gabbert was not the #1 pick. He was not the consensus best QB in the draft class, nor was he the first QB taken. I don't put much stock in this detail, but the last QB drafted at #10 overall was Matt Lienart in 2006. He didn't start his first year and probably never will start in his career. Guys who start their rookie year often do so because there is no better option. Matt Ryan "beat out" Randall Cunningham for his job, Matt Stafford "beat out" Daunte Culpepper and Drew Hanson for his. Josh Freeman, who played this year, beat out Josh Johnson, a fifth round, 2nd year player from San Diego for his job. Who was gonna take that job from him, really?

The Jaguars looked at Gabbert on tape and saw a player with impressive physical tools and really high ceiling. They saw a smart player with the smarts to pick up an NFL system and really master it. I didn't love the guy as a prospect, but I hope that the Jaguars are right. They did not, however, see a pro-ready passer. Even if he was pro-ready, would you play a rookie over an established team leader and five year starter who has consistently performed better than half of the starters in the league while on a rebuilding team. If you said you would play the rookie, you need to consider if you really have the best interest of this franchise in mind.

I agree with Alfie's basic statement which is "Gabbert will start when he's ready." That sounds good to me. Play Garrard this year and if the team really starts stinking (3-6 or worse) then sure, throw the rookie in there, but not game one. Blaine Gabbert is not Sam Bradford. He won't be ready to start by week one.

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How can you definitively say he’s not the best option and not ready before a practice has even occurred?

You’re shutting and locking the door before it even has a chance to open. That’s pretty close minded.

by Alfie Crow on May 18, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It is close minded...

to rule out any player before camp / preseason. I have to agree with that, and I am sure the team has not done that!

by GAJAGFAN on May 18, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have a car, or door number 2?

Until I know what’s behind door #2, I’ll take the car.

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by Brian Levenson on May 18, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK.....

and that example works if all of camp and preseason are lost. Lets look at what we really have. Would you rather have a car, or would you rather take a look and inspect what is behind door number 2 before you make any decision? I think I would rather explore all my options before I made my choice. Wouldn’t you?

by GAJAGFAN on May 18, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not ruling it out 100%

I’m ruling it out about 90%.

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by Brian Levenson on May 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take Door #2...

when the car is a Hyundai that sometimes runs great, but just as often doesn’t start (and costs me 8 million dollars a year in money to keep on the road).

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by JPQ! on May 18, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ummm

Hyundai is actually a very good car now. It rates very high in customer satisfaction.. I’m just saying

by GRSJags on May 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just say Yugo,,,

Hyundai is now in top 5 in world

by Nikola R on May 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try the Adobe

The Sassy Mexican Import made of clay. German engineering with Mexican know-how.

by Joe Fisher on May 18, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Use that approach...

and you might look just like the donkey waiting behind door number #2!

by GAJAGFAN on May 18, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And the DG picture caption should read....

“Now that the games over, I sure hope I get to meet Alphie (SP?) Crow!”

by GAJAGFAN on May 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

"We did it, Alfie!!! We did it!!!"

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by Brian Levenson on May 18, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The burden of proof is on the Gabbert, not Garrard.

Unless Gabbert walks on water, I’d roll with Garrard until further notice.

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by Brian Levenson on May 18, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

If Gabbert walks on water...

I think football will be the least of our concerns!

by GAJAGFAN on May 18, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

We've tried rolling the dice with Garrard...

and we’ve crapped out every season.

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by JPQ! on May 18, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long

do you roll with someone that has proven he can’t take it to the next level before you say enough.

by Jagalope on May 18, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until you know for a fact you have someone just as good or better

Blaine will get in when he knows the playbook and shows he has the skill to compete as a starter in the NFL, if he does in training camp then he will get in. We aren’t going to play someone for the sake of playing them though.

by jstnblke41 on May 18, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He actually had no competition whatsoever for the job.

He was taken after the team traded Schaub and Vick had been arrested. I believe they added some bozos and I vaguely remember Cunningham being mentioned related to that team. It might have been Joey Harrington he was competing with.

Basically what I mean is he wasn’t pushing up against a competent starter, he was given the job by default.

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by Brian Levenson on May 18, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gabbert WAS the concensus #1 quarterback of the draft

He was first on all the credible ranking lists (NFL, NFL Draft Scout, PFW, Mayock, McShay, Kiper, Wright, etc.) and a poll by the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinal of 24 NFL coachs revealed that 16 of them thought Gabbert was the top QB. His lead over Newton was about the same as Bradford over Clausen coming out last year. Not many remember that Clausen was rated higher in last year’s draft than Newton was this year.

by robert ethan on May 18, 2011 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

I’ll put Gabbert under Bradford, Ryan, and Stafford, but over Sanchez, Freeman, and Flacco coming out of college.

Can't stand the truth?

by Aristotle45 on May 18, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just curious

but if he WAS the consensus #1 QB in the draft, why was he the 3rd QB drafted ? That makes ZERO sense.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on May 18, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree, it makes "ZERO sense"..

..but Gabbert was as much the “consensus #1 quarterback of the draft” this year as Bradford was in 2010, prior to the draft. At least according to the “experts”. A year ago, remember, Jake Locker was considered to have a good chance to go ahead of Bradford if he had opted in. Then there were some who preferred Clausen to Bradford prior to the draft.

by robert ethan on May 18, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only reason anyone

had any questions about Bradford was because of his injury history. Had he not have had his injury twice I think it would have been closer to consensus.

by Ewdtrey on May 19, 2011 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

and I think your talking about some fans with Clausen, I don’t think he was ever a viable first option at QB in the draft.

by jstnblke41 on May 19, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

it makes sense

because some teams that drafted ahead of the Jaguars thought a guy fit their build better. Plain and simple. Not everyone drives a sports car, some go for the muscle others for the truck. Its all in what that team envisioned that player becoming.

Dammit just go out there and play to win and I'll be here to cheer!!!!

by Vegasjags on May 18, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blaine had real good PR. Unlike Sam, Blaine wasn’t even on anyone of those so called experts radar before he hired his agent , well known and loved sports agent Tom Condon.

Why was anyone surprised that all the top elite folks were hyping him as the best QB over Cam. Funny but it didn’t seem as if they really believed it considering ho much they kept linking his name with Cam’s. True talent should be able to stand alone.

by privategirl on May 18, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never saw anything I liked about him

not only does he look like he is overwhelmed athletically, but off the field he comes off as a dick.

by jstnblke41 on May 19, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gabbert is a classic QB who played in a spread offense

This guy took snaps from under center in high school, was a 5 star recruit coming out from high school and went to a school that ran a spread offense. He is a true quarterback that can play in any system as opposed to being a system quarterback, a la Drew Brees at Purdue

by Bryan Richardson on May 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Uh oh!

now we’re going to have an article about why he shouldn’t be compared to Drew Brees! ;-)

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on May 18, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, we need a "Stop All Blaine Gabbert Comparisons" thread.

Get it out of the way without clogging up the board with too many threads.

by robert ethan on May 18, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like there is so much....

more important stuff to clog it up at this time. I propose a “Stop comparing Blaine Gabbert to Dan Hicken” piece.

by GAJAGFAN on May 19, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not comparing him to Drew Brees

Just using him as an example of a QB who played in a spread offense in college who can play in any system. Kyle Orton and Steve Young are other examples. Just sick of all the criticism before the kid takes a snap

by Bryan Richardson on May 18, 2011 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: Jagalope "How Long"

Sometimes it takes a long time. Terry Bradshaw was in his 5th year as the starting QB for the Steelers when Chuck Noll benched him. He later got the job back after an injury to the other guy and they went on to win the first of 4 Superbowl’s. Patience is a virtue.

by Kevin Grab on May 18, 2011 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

RE: Jagalope "How Long"

I am not trying to say that DG is a Bradshaw, but just using this example to illustrate a point.

by Kevin Grab on May 18, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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