What happened to FACT Checking..? (RE: AEG and the L.A. lies)

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What happened to FACT Checking..? (RE: AEG and the L.A. lies)

By Charles Goin  @MidloJagz on Jun 17 2011, 10:56a 29

As I am sure everyone has all heard and read.. AEG is at it AGAIN saying they are talking with Jacksonville (amongst other teams) about moving to LA. When in reality they are calling the teams and most are saying "not interested", so the correct verb would be talking TO.. not talking WITH. But I digress..

Last year, JUST for this reason, I kept track of attendance NFL Wide, along with some comparitive anyalisis at the beginning of the year

http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/9/14/1689221/attendance-facts-and-figures

So here it is, I have consolidated all the Attendance info I put together last year and made some notes for those that have a hard time reading FACTS and a Spreadsheet. That way they can skip all the technical stuff and read the commentary. At least if they cheat off my commentary, they will at least get thier info straight.

2010 NFL REGULAR SEASON ATTENDANCE

RK	TEAM	Games	Total	AVG	Stadium Max	% Stadium	MSA (ADJ)	MKT SZ
1	Dallas	8	696,377	87,047	80,000	108.8%	6,447,615	5
2	Washington	8	665,380	83,172	91,704	90.7%	5,476,241	10
3	NY Giants	8	632,156	79,019	82,566	95.7%	9,534,898	2 (T)
4	NY Jets	8	628,768	78,596	82,566	95.2%	9,534,898	2 (T)
5	Denver	8	599,264	74,908	76,125	98.4%	2,552,195	20
6	Carolina	8	580,965	72,620	73,778	98.4%	1,745,524	28
7	Baltimore	8	569,817	71,227	71,008	100.3%	2,690,886	19
8	Houston	8	568,643	71,080	71,500	99.4%	5,867,489	8
9	Green Bay	8	566,362	70,795	72,928	97.1%	1,886,783	27
10	New Orleans	8	560,304	70,038	72,968	96.0%	1,189,981	32
11	San Francisco	7	488,124	69,732	70,207	99.3%	2,158,927	23 (T)
12	Philadelphia	8	553,152	69,144	69,144	100.0%	5,968,252	7
13	Tennessee	8	553,144	69,143	69,143	100.0%	1,582,264	31
14	New England	8	550,048	68,756	68,756	100.0%	7,288,680	4
15	Atlanta	8	542,800	67,850	71,228	95.3%	5,475,213	11
16	Miami	8	541,959	67,744	75,192	90.1%	5,547,051	9
17	Kansas City	8	541,380	67,672	77,000	87.9%	2,067,585	26
18	Seattle	8	535,942	66,992	67,000	100.0%	3,407,848	15
19	Indianapolis	8	535,802	66,975	66,153	101.2%	1,743,658	29
20	Cleveland	8	528,933	66,116	73,200	90.3%	2,091,286	25
21	San Diego	8	524,241	65,530	71,294	91.9%	4,053,793	14
22	Buffalo	7	442,366	63,195	73,967	85.4%	6,223,804	6
23	Pittsburgh	8	504,669	63,083	65,050	97.0%	2,354,957	21
24	Jacksonville	8	504,262	63,032	67,164	93.8%	1,668,144	30
25	Arizona	8	502,197	62,774	63,400	99.0%	4,364,094	13
26	Chicago	8	497,561	62,195	61,500	101.1%	9,580,567	1
27	Cincinnati	8	482,917	60,364	65,790	91.8%	2,171,896	22
28	Minnesota	8	470,009	58,751	64,121	91.6%	3,269,814	16
29	Detroit	8	450,286	56,285	64,500	87.3%	4,403,437	12
30	St. Louis	8	423,383	52,922	66,965	79.0%	2,828,990	17
31	Tampa Bay	8	394,513	49,314	65,857	74.9%	2,747,272	18
32	Oakland	8	371,448	46,431	63,026	73.7%	2,158,927	23 (T)
	NFL AVG		531,474	66,953	71,088	94.1%	4,065,093	14

These are the OVERALL 2011 attendance figures.. and as you can tell Jacksonville was 24th in total only 50 (YES FIFTY ) less than Pittsburgh's average attendance. Are they having ticket sale trouble I don't know about..? Also note Buffalo only had more than 160 on average, and they had to move one of their games to Toronto.

Now lets compare how teams compared to one another in ability to FILL their stadium based on a % of capacity..

RK	TEAM	Games	Total	AVG	Stadium Max	% Stadium	MSA (ADJ)	MKT SZ
1	Dallas	8	696,377	87,047	80,000	108.8%	6,447,615	5
2	Indianapolis	8	535,802	66,975	66,153	101.2%	1,743,658	29
3	Chicago	8	497,561	62,195	61,500	101.1%	9,580,567	1
4	Baltimore	8	569,817	71,227	71,008	100.3%	2,690,886	19
5	Philadelphia	8	553,152	69,144	69,144	100.0%	5,968,252	7
6	Tennessee	8	553,144	69,143	69,143	100.0%	1,582,264	31
7	New England	8	550,048	68,756	68,756	100.0%	7,288,680	4
8	Seattle	8	535,942	66,992	67,000	100.0%	3,407,848	15
9	Houston	8	568,643	71,080	71,500	99.4%	5,867,489	8
10	San Francisco	7	488,124	69,732	70,207	99.3%	2,158,927	23 (T)
11	Arizona	8	502,197	62,774	63,400	99.0%	4,364,094	13
12	Carolina	8	580,965	72,620	73,778	98.4%	1,745,524	28
13	Denver	8	599,264	74,908	76,125	98.4%	2,552,195	20
14	Green Bay	8	566,362	70,795	72,928	97.1%	1,886,783	27
15	Pittsburgh	8	504,669	63,083	65,050	97.0%	2,354,957	21
16	New Orleans	8	560,304	70,038	72,968	96.0%	1,189,981	32
17	NY Giants	8	632,156	79,019	82,566	95.7%	9,534,898	2 (T)
18	Atlanta	8	542,800	67,850	71,228	95.3%	5,475,213	11
19	NY Jets	8	628,768	78,596	82,566	95.2%	9,534,898	2 (T)
20	Jacksonville	8	504,262	63,032	67,164	93.8%	1,668,144	30
21	San Diego	8	524,241	65,530	71,294	91.9%	4,053,793	14
22	Cincinnati	8	482,917	60,364	65,790	91.8%	2,171,896	22
23	Minnesota	8	470,009	58,751	64,121	91.6%	3,269,814	16
24	Washington	8	665,380	83,172	91,704	90.7%	5,476,241	10
25	Cleveland	8	528,933	66,116	73,200	90.3%	2,091,286	25
26	Miami	8	541,959	67,744	75,192	90.1%	5,547,051	9
27	Kansas City	8	541,380	67,672	77,000	87.9%	2,067,585	26
28	Detroit	8	450,286	56,285	64,500	87.3%	4,403,437	12
29	Buffalo	7	442,366	63,195	73,967	85.4%	6,223,804	6
30	St. Louis	8	423,383	52,922	66,965	79.0%	2,828,990	17
31	Tampa Bay	8	394,513	49,314	65,857	74.9%	2,747,272	18
32	Oakland	8	371,448	46,431	63,026	73.7%	2,158,927	23 (T)
	NFL AVG		531,474	66,953	71,088	94.1%	4,065,093	14

A comparative analysis shows Jacksonville was right at the NFL average last year at 20th in percentage of stadium filled.

Jacksonville at the end of the year was over 93% capacity. Tampa, Detriot, Oakland, and St Louis have Smaller stadiums and are under 85% in capacity.. Also while Arizona and Chicago were close to or over 100% sell out, we averaged more tickets sold. Also if you look at Arizona, Oakland and Chicago capacities.. we would have 100% sold out in those stadiums. Chicago the statistically largest market (When you divide NY into two) has the SMALLEST Stadium at 61,500. We seat over 5,000 more than Chicago WITH THE SEATS COVERED.

On that subject.. Lets cover the "Jacksonville should move since they had to cover their seats" nonsense.

Lets compare stadiums in the league according to Maximum size of stadium and Market Size.

Note that I have included Everbank field WITH and WITHOUT covered seats..

RK	TEAM	Stadium Max	% Stadium	MSA (ADJ)	MKT SZ
1	Washington	91,704	90.70%	5,476,241	10
2	NY Giants	82,566	95.70%	9,534,898	2 (T)
3	NY Jets	82,566	95.20%	9,534,898	2 (T)
4	Dallas	80,000	108.80%	6,447,615	5
5	Kansas City	77,000	87.90%	2,067,585	26
6*	Jacksonville	76,867	82.01%	1,668,144	30
6	Denver	76,125	98.40%	2,552,195	20
7	Miami	75,192	90.10%	5,547,051	9
8	Buffalo	73,967	85.40%	6,223,804	6
9	Carolina	73,778	98.40%	1,745,524	28
10	Cleveland	73,200	90.30%	2,091,286	25
11	New Orleans	72,968	96.00%	1,189,981	32
12	Green Bay	72,928	97.10%	1,886,783	27
13	Houston	71,500	99.40%	5,867,489	8
14	San Diego	71,294	91.90%	4,053,793	14
15	Atlanta	71,228	95.30%	5,475,213	11
16	Baltimore	71,008	100.30%	2,690,886	19
17	San Francisco	70,207	99.30%	2,158,927	23 (T)
18	Philadelphia	69,144	100.00%	5,968,252	7
19	Tennessee	69,143	100.00%	1,582,264	31
20	New England	68,756	100.00%	7,288,680	4
21*	Jacksonville	67,164	93.80%	1,668,144	30
22	Seattle	67,000	100.00%	3,407,848	15
23	St. Louis	66,965	79.00%	2,828,990	17
24	Indianapolis	66,153	101.20%	1,743,658	29
25	Tampa Bay	65,857	74.90%	2,747,272	18
26	Cincinnati	65,790	91.80%	2,171,896	22
27	Pittsburgh	65,050	97.00%	2,354,957	21
28	Detroit	64,500	87.30%	4,403,437	12
29	Minnesota	64,121	91.60%	3,269,814	16
30	Arizona	63,400	99.00%	4,364,094	13
31	Oakland	63,026	73.70%	2,158,927	23 (T)
32	Chicago	61,500	101.10%	9,580,567	1

Jacksonville is the 30th in adjusted Market Size ( although some numbers "experts" have used would have us as low as the 32nd ) yet if we don't cover the seats we would have the 6th largest stadium in the NFL.

Looking purely based on the average attendance as a percentage of the stadium, EVEN if we didn't cover the seats we would have a better percentage of the stadium filled than St. Louis, Tampa Bay, or Oakland. Which by the way, it should be noted have the 31st, 25th and 23rd largest stadiums. Even covered our stadium is larger than those as we are the 21nd largest stadium WITH the seats covered.

So what do get from all this..

1) YES, Jacksonville covered the seats but even with the covered seats we are a large stadium. Thus the image we have a lot of empty seats compared to smaller stadiums. Based on a percentage of the stadium filled we are basically at 20 are right at the NFL Average.

2) Compared to the size of the market we are doing well in ticket sales. Not great, but on average with the NFL and BETTER than much larger markets like Chicago, and on par with teams like Pittsburgh.

3) Oakland, Tampa, St. Louis, and Detroit have had a MUCH harder time selling tickets than Jacksonville ever had.

4) MOST commentators and "journalists" don't apparently do any research and just repeat what they are told.

5) Maybe if this spread on the net, someone will get the message to quit the lies.. !

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