Facts about spread offense QBs that Jaguars fans should know
Of all the 119 D-1 teams in the NCAA, ESPN lists 48 that run a form of spread offense (about 40%) as of 2009. It is a system that is undeniably effective, and has the after-effect of making a quarterback look very good. Ever since the days of Colt Brennan in Hawaii, the spread has made quarterbacks look like god-sends, whether they are or not. That's why it's strange that spread quarterbacks seem to rarely be good NFL prospects. Why? What does the spread offense do to teams to make the QBs less attractive?
In the top 20 NCAA, D-I teams in passing yardage, 10 (50%) are spread offense teams. 12 of the top 20 teams (60%) in total offense in the NCAA were spread teams. Impressive, huh? In terms of passing yards, it evens out to 12 of the top 30 (which is 40%) if you include the next ten teams down, but of the QBs on those top 30 teams, the only ones considered as legitimate prospects in the 2011 draft were Nick Foles of Arizona (who fizzled out pretty early in the season, 8th rated passing game) and... Blaine Gabbert (on the 29th rated team).
Other names within the top 20 include: B. Moniz, B. Weeden, Taylor Potts, Kyle Padron, and five others I haven't even heard of, including David Piland, a freshman who played only 8 games but threw for 2600+ yards with 24 TDs and 14 INTs. I'm not sure of years for all of these players, but I do know that none of them were drafted besides Gabbert.
The non-spread QBs in that top 20 list include: Landry Jones, Ryan Mallett, and Nate Enderle; two players drafted in 2011 and a potential high first rounder in 2012.
Now that's just yardage, not passer rating, so the list doesn't include lots of good QBs, including both spread guys (Cam Newton) and non-spread guys (Jake Locker, Andrew Luck). Basically, however, there was one spread guy among the top <em>30</em> passing teams who was drafted, and 3 from the top <em>20</em> and a potential 2012 first rounder from the non-spread teams.
So what am I actually getting at with this information? This means one of two things: Either spread teams are uniquely talented and therefore overachieve, or the system just naturally allows a team to gain more yardage. Last year, 4 of the top 5 teams in total yardage ran the spread, and 7 of the top 10. On average, successful spread passing QBs seem to gain around 3,400 yards per season with 65+% passing and a TD/INT ratio of around 3/1. For a thirteen game season, that's really good. Gabbert had 3100 yards his senior year and a low TD% relative to other spread QBs. That can be explained away by saying Gabbert didn't have a great year, and statistics aren't the best judge of talent anyway.
So now the question is, why isn't the NFL world overrun with spread QBs? Chase Daniels out of Mizzou has made it to the NFL, Vince Young and Colt McCoy from Texas have too. Alex Smith ran the spread at Utah and Tim Tebow ran it at Florida. Colt Brennan (Hawaii) managed to get drafted also, but he never really caught on in the NFL. The only success story I can think of is Kyle Orton out of Purdue, who was not very effective up until he was traded to Denver last year. Should we be happy to see the Jaguars add the name Blaine Gabbert to that inauspicious list? According to Orton, he came from a shotgun offense and "I went into a power running game, two-back, seven-step drop system in Chicago when I got to the NFL and it took a while to get accustomed to that." Hopefully, Gabbert can manage the transition without too much trouble.
Overall, I'm not a huge believer in statistics, but I do believe in patterns, and the pattern suggests that spread offenses consistently spit out passers with bloated numbers. Truthfully, there aren't many quarterbacks who have come from the spread into NFL success, and wins and stats aren't great indicators for a successful transition from the spread to the NFL. The only way to go is to have faith in the player that you drafted and train him to be the best he can. I'm sure the Jaguars will do just that as Blaine Gabbert.
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Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Brees, Flacco, Freeman all came from variations of the spread. It all depends how you define the spread, what type of spread it is, and how
It’s run.
It makes sense to run a spread in college because typically your best athletes play offense, so you have a natural mismatch. You have to look within the spread and see if the QB has to make reads, NFL throws, etc.
Gabbert’s worked under center since high shool. In practice at Mizzou and on his personal time in the off-season. The NFL itself is also more and more in the shotgun each year.
by Alfie Crow on Jun 5, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I thought it was odd I couldn't find successful spread QBs
I guess I didn’t look hard enough. I thought Roethlisberger at first, but apparently ESPN didn’t consider Miami of Ohio a spread team. Flacco was D-II so I wasn’t considering him. I looked into it, and Rodgers at Cal definitely wasn’t a pass-heavy spread the way I’m talking about it, they only threw 325 times a season with him. Freeman is a good example tho.
Thanks, that was bugging me.
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by Brian Levenson on Jun 5, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
just as Gene doesn't discriminate
against players from smaller schools, I think he also doesn’t discriminate against a player because of the system his school played. He uses the term “skill set” a lot, and I think he sees in Gabbert the skill set to be a successful pro QB.
Section 442, RIP
"You think you know, but you don't know."
Brennan was older than Gabbert is now before he threw his first college pass
Chase Daniels started 4 seasons and had his best numbers in his last two. His stats after 2 years of starting weren’t better than Gabbert’s. Plus Chase threw 18 picks in his senior year alone which is the same as Gabbert’s career. Neither of those guys is exactly built like Josh Freeman, either. There are a lot of different individual reasons those guys weren’t highly rated as pros and there are a lot of different “spread offenses”, none of which are identical. Sam Bradford came out of a similar version to Missouri’s. Plus Gabbert was the top pro style prospect coming out of high school and continued to work with his private coach on drop backs the whole time he was in Columbia.
Kellen Moore has better numbers than Andrew Luck in the Pac10
But Luck is a likely #1 overall pick and Moore may not get drafted. There are a lot of factors that go in to the scouting, but I don’t think college stats rank that highly. Matt Leinart was having Heisman Trophy type seasons with USC the whole time Matt Cassel was riding the bench.
Well, there's nothing more damning to an NFL career than winning the Heisman.
That is, if history is any indication.
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by Brian Levenson on Jun 5, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Good article
Definitely food for thought going forward … to a future time when there is football
What specific NFL skills does the spread neglect that makes it so hard to transition from?
I don’t see handing the ball off to MJD as that hard.
Is it standing in the pocket and feeling the pressure but not panicking? Because that’s something people have said Gabbert has a problem with.
What could of happened; did.
Pocket presence
Taking snaps from center is not an especially difficult skill, and it can be taught, but there is a certain rhythm and timing and precision that can only come from repetition. There’s also differences when it comes to stepping up and avoiding rushers, and I’d imagine it’s a different feeling standing back in the shotgun ready for people to come after you versus having to run away right with the snap.
Gabbert does struggle to feel pressure, but that has nothing to do with being a spread player. That’s just an inefficiency in his game which will have to be worked out of him over time. Honestly, that pocket presence is my biggest concern when it comes to Gabbert’s game.
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by Brian Levenson on Jun 6, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
For those that missed seeing Blaine Gabbert in action (except for you tube videos)
The Big Ten Network will run a replay of the Insight Bowl -
Missouri vs Iowa
Wednesday, June 15th 7pm est.

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