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Real Victims of the NFL Lockout: Undrafted Free Agents

While much of the talk about the NFL lockout has been about players staying in shape, free agency, missed OTA's, and how behind rookies will be because of not being able to work with the teams that drafted, that's not the real damaging thing. There is a group however, who might actually be irreparably damaged by the NFL lockout. One group doesn't have a virtual guarantee of money and a roster spot waiting for them when the season opens.

The undrafted free agents.

I was able to get a hold of Kentucky Wildcats defensive lineman Ricky Lumpkin. Lumpkin is a versatile, athletic defensive lineman that many teams will look to scoop up once free agency opens. Most of the time, undrafted free agents are able to make some cash during mini-camp and organized team activities. They generally sign contracts early on and get a decent signing bonus, which is how teams coerce them to sign over others. It's not much, but it's enough for the player to live on while they're dedicating their time to making the football team.

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"This lockout has left myself and a lot of guys like me in a very unusual situation this season," Lumpkin told me over e-mail. "I got a job this summer, because to me it was something my parents taught me when I was younger. They taught me to handle my business, never make excuses, and to never sit around and wait for a job or an opportunity. Make most of what you have at any given time. Even though I knew my agent could've taken care of me like he has a lot of the other guys he works with, I just did not feel like bothering him about it, because I know I can make something on my own," Lumpkin continued.

A lot of rookies, especially drafted players, are fronted money by their agents because there is a guarantee of money to come back to them when they sign contracts. For undrafted rookies, it's no guarantee. They're essentially taking a loan. It says something about Lumpkin that he went out and got a job to pay his way, even though he knew his agent would take care of him and working full-time could possibly hurt his chances when camps open. What makes it tough is staying in NFL shape and being ready for when the league year does open, while working a full-time job. Staying in NFL shape is a full-time job in itself, especially for a guy who's simply just trying to make a roster and doesn't know what it takes to be in NFL shape, like the veterans.

"Working out is difficult with a work schedule, but its just another challenge in life," Lumpkin wrote. "I do a mix of workouts. I lift, but I run more than I lift. I get out on the field and run gassers, do some bag work ,and mix in change of direction. When I work out I try to work with some of my former teammates who play in the NFL like Jeremy Jarmon who is a defensive lineman with the Washington Redskins. Working with him is a blessing because he also teaches me things I need to know about entering into camp."

It's great Lumpkin has that benefit, so he knows what to look for when he does get into an NFL camp. Most undrafted free agents don't have that luxury, however. Lumpkin's also able to do a lot of these workouts because he's got access to what's necessary. He got a job at the University of Kentucky at the Center for Academic Tutorial Services, the help other UK student athletes.

"I felt like I went to college for a reason which was to prepare me for life and different situations," said Lumpkin. "This is one of those situations. I was taught to handle my business and get the job done. I can't complain about the lockout and won't complain. So to help pass time and to get my future ready for whenever I'm done playing football I started working at my Alma Mater at C.A.T.S (Center for Academic Tutorial Services). I started working here because I want to help the student athletes out at UK just like I received help my past five years at the University. This is a passion of mine to help people out to help people reach goals the same way I got help to reach my goals in college."

As I mentioned previously, the oft-forgotten victims of the NFL lockout are the guys who make up the backbone for a lot of NFL rosters. On the Jacksonville Jaguars, we've seen what you can pull from that pool of talent. With the lockout however, it's going to push teams more towards keeping veteran players who know what they're doing over taking a shot on an undrafted rookie who shows promise, simply because the veteran will be better acclimated. The undrafted guys are the real victims of the 2011 NFL lockout, because it's very likely a lot of guys won't make the cut on rosters simply because of the time they missed, which is real. A lot of UDFA's make their impressions early on in mini-camp and OTA's while working with position coaches. As it stands right now, they'll just be thrown into the fire. Teams will be in a rush to get things together and learn schemes. In a normal off-season, the UDFA's can get more personal work with coaches, more face time. As it stands now, that will be limited as camp begins.

"When it is all said and done I am ready to sign and see what happens, but either way it goes I have no regrets. I am just like any other college player who wants a shot in the NFL," Lumpkin wrote. "It all comes down to what you do with it. Just like my parents taught me, I got to handle my business, which when it comes is to make a team."

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great write up

The only thing these guys have over the vets trying one last go around is fresh legs. But most teams want savvy.

I think the UDFA QBs, WRs,LBs and secondary are in a worse position overall due to no playbook availability and that classroom time that you spoke of.

by Joe Fisher on Jul 21, 2011 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Excellent write up...

I like this kid’s attitude. I dont know anything about him, but he seems like a guy who has a solid character make up.

Fidelis Ad Mortem

by JPQ! on Jul 21, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why LBs?

I understand why QB’s, WR’s, and secondary may be in a worse position but why LB’s?

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jul 21, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

LBs are typically quarterbacks of the defense

easier to spot what the offense is doing upright and adapt vice in a stance like a lineman.

by Joe Fisher on Jul 22, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

im more interested in udfa's that make the team

Than usual.

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

Real fans don’t need a reason.

Is it finally time to draft a QB?

by TheTealDeal on Jul 21, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

There was talk early of 90 man rosters during camp this year

Do you know if this was this in the final deal ?

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

None of these people are victims

No more than anyone who recently left college and hasn’t found a job in their chosen profession is a victim.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

In theory, you're 100% correct

but we live in a Bread and Circuses society. Thing is, what Fortune 500 company is going to take a flier on a recent college graduate after they’ve done their initial wave of hiring those Magna Cum Laude graduates for their junior executive program(draft) and have some random slots to fill on a recent graduate at Account Temps or Labor Ready with little to bring to the table in the way of experience or knowledge(UDFA) and pay them to sit around and learn Excel?

Stupid example and there’s probably one better but there’s always a need for camp bodies and at this stage of the game, these guys could get noticed if not by the current team, by in our case, the Falcons or Broncos (John Fox), Panthers, Jets, etc.

by Joe Fisher on Jul 21, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Could" being the operative word in all this

Just like College graduates of any degree, the best are pretty much guaranteed a job and the rest have to do what they can. That doesn’t make them victims. Each of us are responsible for what happens. In the story above, do you think Ricky Lumpkin considers himself a victim ?

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are we really going to sit here and argue the semantics of what a victim is?

In the case of the lockout, the UDFA’s are the clear victims of the process.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 11:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

You're the one arguing

None of these UDFA’s were guaranteed a job in the NFL.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone say they were guaranteed a job?

The lockout, of which they had no control over, significantly lessened their chances of land jobs. Thus, making them a victim of the lockout.

You’re arguing semantics.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do you have statistics

to back up the claim that it “significantly lessened their chances” ? It’s really just a theory.

The real victims of this are the front-office workers who lost their jobs when the lockout started. And maybe even those who make their living in the communities where training camps are usually held but won’t be held this year because teams are staying home.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christ.

Really?

Those people who lost their jobs aren’t victims. They can just find other jobs. Right?

Do you have statistics to show communities that host training camps are victims? It’s really just a theory.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

totally different

If a team has been holding training camp at University X each year for the past 5-50 years, there are real jobs and real people that are known to not be getting that work this year. It’s a known past income that’s lost.

The front-office people are victims the same way you or I would be if someone in finance from the company that pays us ran off with all the companies money, the business failed, and we lost our jobs.

Players who never had a guarantee of a job and still, when all is said and done, might get the job, are in no way comparable to either of these situations. If a player was good enough to make an NFL team, I expect that in most cases they’ll still make a team.

Heck, with the reduced salary cap they may even have a better chance since teams will be forced to cut more of the higher priced veterans.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, you obviously think the lockout effects UDFA’s in no way whatsoever.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 3:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Being effected and being a victim

are two very different things. You and I are effected by the lockout but we’re certainly not victims. And effects on UDFA’s can be positive as well. Since the outcome of the lockout appears to be a reduced salary cap it may allow more rookies to find jobs.

Is there a place to find stats on how many UDFA’s end up on opening day rosters ? Is this something we can compare on September 11th (assuming the season starts on time) ?

I’d be very interested to see real numbers on this when it’s all over.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, site traffic is down significantly from the same point last year. So, I am a victim of it.

Again, you’re agrueing the semantics of “victim” and it’s rather ridiculous.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

victim – A person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action

Again, you evidently think nothing’s been harmed on the UDFA front due to the lockout since you’re disputing they’re “victims”. Right?

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ok

I’ll agree that you are a victim in as far is this site goes. Same goes for all the FFL magazine publishers. Both of these are easily calculated because of a known past result.

But there’s no evidence that UDFA’s have been harmed. There’s the thought that they may be, but there’s no evidence that any individuals have been so I don’t see them as victims. And since there is no guarantee that any specific individual would be signed to a TC roster, there’s no harm. In fact, some may gain by the lockout and the resulting changes. Especially if the news of 90 man TC rosters proves to be true, that’s 320 players getting paid that otherwise would not have been.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay, semantics.

Awesome.

Yes or no: Do you think UDFA’s will be negatively effected by the lockout?

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think some may possible be negatively effected

and some very likely will be positively effected. We’re talking about thousands of players here.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a fantastic non-answer.

If you disagree they’re victims, you obviously think they’re not negatively effected.

Appreciate the discussion on semantics and what being a “victim” is. It was enthralling.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a very clear answer

some people may be negatively effected but some will be positively effected. We know for a fact that 320 players will have Training Camp jobs that would not have had it not been for the lockout and the new CBA – if ratified. Are those people victims?

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 22, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're really going in a totally different direction than was the intent

Is Alfie saying we need to organize a telethon for them? No. But he is correctly saying that they are behind the 8 ball moreso than draftees and unsigned vets.

by Joe Fisher on Jul 21, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is the NFL not their chosen profession…?

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 10:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Right, and not being able to find a job

doesn’t make you a victim.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Jul 21, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

It does if your chosen industry is entirely shut down due to reasons beyond your control and foresight.

by KillJag on Jul 21, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

With how much Med school costs

I wouldn’t be surprised if they were telling the truth. Besides, who doesn’t want to contribute a dollar or two to support higher education?

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!

by DownTownJax on Jul 21, 2011 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

isnt that why they go to college? to get a degree in something for when theyre not playing football

i think they are the victims, but theyve had four months to find a job to help get them through the day. And saying that it was beyond their foresight is ridiculous because everyone knew there was going to be a lockout and it would last a long time.

by Dwalk1217 on Jul 21, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The entire industry did not shut down....

Some of these guys could be playing Arena League or CFL. It would have been a gamble but some could have gone that route.

by Section216 on Jul 21, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. The AFL began in the began in February.
2. CFL has a limit of foreign players per team and required a 2-year contract.

It’s illogical to risk career ending injury in a lower tier league before even attempting the NFL.

by Alfie Crow on Jul 21, 2011 2:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Mario Harvey should be a Jag!

Marshall LB Mario Harvey would be a great fit in Jacksonville. He is VERY fast and is great against the run. He can get to the QB with his 4.4 speed.

by Catfanatic1979v1 on Jul 21, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In that photo

the guy wearing number 11 in the white jersey…is his last name COCK? Because if it is, that’s hilarious to me, and unfortunate for him.

Fidelis Ad Mortem

by JPQ! on Jul 21, 2011 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice Article

Personally, Idk how smart it is to work a full-time job when trying to stay in shape is one in itself. I mean, you are already at a disadvantage being an UDFA, then you have the fact that you have missed OTAs, missed time with coaches, and now your going to add to that by not being in the best physical shape possible. Thats really stacking the deck against yourself. I wouldn’t have played it that way but everyone has to make their own decisions, I wish him well.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jul 21, 2011 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

What I mean is I probably would have went back home or worked part-time at least.

If I were in the same situation, I would be trying to give myself the best chance possible being a UDFA, and knowing that I have a slim chance to start with but like I said everyone makes their own decisions so it is what it is.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jul 21, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

rabble rabble rabble

I like how some folks like to turn things around and not answer directly. Maybe their degree in psychology didn’t work out and they’re just angry. Perhaps it’s just tunnel vision.

Sean

Pax Armis Acquiritur

by cuffs007 on Jul 23, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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