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Last night the Jacksonville Jaguars and Atlanta Falcons held a joint practice down at the Florida Blue practice fields. It was very interesting to see how practice played out with teams not going against players they're used to seeing everyday and it made for a more competitive and intense practice. One big observation that jumped out to me, was how good the Atlanta Falcons are. Not just on their front lines, either. They're deep.

You could tell from watching the two, there is a clear cut gap between the Falcons and the Jaguars. In virtually every area sans maybe runningback and tight end, the Falcons are markedly better.

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I set out to watch a few specific things in the practice on my way to the field, but because of how practice flowed it was tough to catch everything. The teams ran the same drills on two fields at once. The Jaguars offensive unit was on the field closest to the bleachers while the Jaguars defensive unit was on the middle field. Due to this, it made it difficult to really single out defensive players, so my overall observations are going to be offensively focused. Here are a couple of quick defensive observations, though:

  • Rashean Mathis is poised for a good season. He had Roddy White blanketed in coverage on one play, then on the very next play swatted a ball away from rookie Julio Jones.
  • Austen Lane was handled by tackle Tyson Clabo. It wasn't just Lane however, as the majority of the Jaguars defensive line was handled by the Falcons offensive line. Only Jeremy Mincey seemed to be able to get some pressure and Matt Roth chased Matt Ryan out of the pocket once.
  • Courtney Greene made a nice interception off a Matt Ryan ball tipped by a Jaguars defender, but I'm not sure who tipped the ball in the air.
  • Matt Ryan and the other Falcons quarterbacks typically had a clean pocket to work with.
  • Julio Jones is good.

Now, the Jaguars offense was easy to follow since it was right in front of us.

  • David Garrard had two very nice touchdown throws in 11x11 drills. In one redzone drill, he rifled a ball to Jason Hill on a slant for a touchdown. On the opposite side of the field, Garrard put a nice fade pass to the corner of the endzone for a leaping touchdown. Garrard also had some misfires too, often checking down to his backs and tight ends. Overall though, he had a solid practice and it didn't look like his back was bothering him. Well, aside from the fact that trainers were constantly tending to it between drills. Garrard didn't do the final two-minute drill at all, I assume because of the risk of contact and his back issue.
  • Right tackles Guy Whimper and Daniel Baldridge were beaten silly in pass rushing drills. On more than one occasion, they didn't even get a hand on their guy. Kroy Biermann whipped each easily on multiple occasions. Get well soon, Eben.
  • Eugene Monroe had a solid night. He was beaten by Ray Edwards easily in one drill, but for the most part held his own against Edwards and John Abraham.
  • Blaine Gabbert had a nice night as well, concluding practice running the two-minute drill with the first unit. In redzone drills, Gabbert rifled a ball between defenders to runningback Richard Murphy for what should have been a touchdown, but Murphy dropped the ball. On another 11x11 drill, Gabbert was nearly picked by a Falcons defender, not quite putting enough arch on his pass.
  • Tiquan Underwood had a nice practice, I can't recall him dropping a pass. Undrafted rookie Jamar Newsome however, had a rough night. He was able to get open on multiple plays, but just couldn't seem to haul in the passes.
  • Cecil Shorts continues to shine, and in my opinion has been the best receiver throughout training camp... including Mike Thomas. Barring injury, I think Shorts has the slot receiver position on lockdown.

It will be fun to watch the game on Friday. David Garrard is slated to start the game, as expected. How long he will play is what will be interesting. If he's getting hit, I feel the leash will be short as to not risk aggrevation of his back. Gabbert is expected to come in mid-second quarter, with Luke McCown finishing off the game in the second half.

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im not

im sick of him hanging around taking a spot when hes never going to be anything for us…why keep someone like that around? i think you may be feeling how i was with my ex girlfriend…you like them just a little enough to keep them around for some BENEFITS but know that they really should be gone and outta your life

by UCLAllDay on Aug 18, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know he'll never be anything ?

Jimmy Smith was released by the Cowboys and Eagles and took at least 1 season in Jacksonville before the light truly came on.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did well on special teams last year, subbing for Karim

Hell, it may come down to he and McGee for the final roster spot.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Underwood

Hey guy, Give the mann a chance. Underwood is a deep threat reciever that we need on the roster. Hell, dont blame him for not getting the ball downfield to him. I think Garrad is the reason Sims-Walker was let go, he just cant get the ball down field on a consistant bases. Underwood is raw but the guy can get open deep and often.

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by B.Mills on Aug 19, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sims-Walkers

apparent Primadona attitude is why he was let go. He completely disappeared at times.

Seeing as how he’s only been signed to a 1-year contract tells you that teams weren’t gushing over his potential.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 19, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't get where there was a prima donna attitude with him

All he did was question why he wasn’t getting the ball. From what I can recall, he never publicly showed up his qb, never saw him on the sidelines bitching none of that. And St. Louis signed quite a few FAs to 1 year deals.

I think it was a simple case of the team thinking they’ve seen his ceiling, so why not go with cheaper younger guys who they felt could step up and match and then ultimately surpass his productivity.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 19, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He seemed to celebrate

more than he should have. Thought not as bad ad Reggie Williams and nowhere near the level of Ochocinco…

He also completely disappeared in games. I think if you look back, ever terrible game that Garrard had last year, MSW had a terrible game as well including both drops and fumbles.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 19, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's gotta get more consistent with the hands

We’ve had speed guys since Alvis Whitted and most recently Troy Williamson. I like Tiquan but he needs to show the ability to catch the ball.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 19, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Vic now


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by montanajagsfan on Aug 18, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring Back Vic Please!!!

They guy we have sucks! I dont even visit the site anymore, Vic knew football and I loved his input on the Jags. He was honest.

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by B.Mills on Aug 19, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He also had 16 years with the organization

I think Oesher is carving his niche. Everyone wants instant gratification. Most team sites don’t give fans what ours does, at least not for free.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 19, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point Joe. The Jags probably have the best site in the league with the content and services they provide for free. I just miss the crotchety old guy lol


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by montanajagsfan on Aug 19, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Did Tony Moll play?"

Is going to become a meme this preseason.

by whaley on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like last year...

This was about the same as last year, when they practiced together. There is a remarkable disparity in talent.

I just don’t think we’re as close as many hope we are.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 18, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Without a dominant pass rush, O-line, or pass coverage...

I’m not sure how we can be seen as a “contender.” We might sneak into the playoffs, but “contender” will have to come in the full fledged Gabbert era (if it’s going to come anytime soon).

by CheapSeat on Aug 18, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

There will be no sneaking into the playoffs

with the schedule that our division has – playing the AFCN and NFCS – I’m pretty certain the WC team will not come from the AFC South.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 18, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Last year Harvey was dominant against the Falcons.

We had a pass rush in the practices last year. However, that did not seem to carry over to the actual season…

by flint on Aug 18, 2011 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Where can I find a roster with current numbers?

I had a tough time following along at the scrimmage.

by CheapSeat on Aug 18, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not sure about that

It seems like our guys struggle even when they are in one on one match-ups.

by duuuvaaalll on Aug 18, 2011 9:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sure, but...

If Kampman, Knighton, and Alualu can all win one-on-one matchups, you can only double team so many players. One of them is bound to get pressure with some sort of consistency. This assuming Kampman and Knighton return to form.

by Mahlalie on Aug 18, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knighton is the one double teamed,

and he still gets pressure, That leaves Kampman on the edge alone, or against a tackle and a tight end.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont' know man...

…we change out d linemen pretty frequently. So it’s not like Pot Roast will be in there for every snap. Plus, we’ve already said Kampman will have a reduced role this season, so he definitely won’t be in there every snap. If we go from an NFL defense with Roast and Kampman in the game, to Landmark Middle School when they aren’t in the game, we’re in trouble anyway.

by moufpuncha on Aug 18, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys not be able...

…to put a hand on a defender is pass rushing drills sounds pretty deficient to me. I know we’re not talking about all stars, but all pro football players should have the basics down. I kinda feel like if you can’t even touch the defender in a pass rushing drill, you really shouldn’t be playing pro football. Unfortunately, this is the kind of quality we have on our depth chart.

by moufpuncha on Aug 18, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey i went to landmark

and our defense was spectacular. 10 players from my middle school team went d-1(4 of them play in bcs conferences). just thought id add that lol

by crash904 on Aug 18, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for the Landmark - Waterleaf battles in a few years

joking. Thankfully, we’re moving to St. Johns Co in 2 weeks. Schools are so much better.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 18, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

kernan is a freaking zoo now

I swear they have like 10 schools along that road between Atlantic and McCormick.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 18, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why isn't Moll getting reps at RT?

He is the only guy on the roster after Briton with starting time there. Baldridge is a project and Whimper is a career back up.

by cathousecrazy on Aug 18, 2011 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Great writeup!

Thanks for doing this. This is fantastic.

I actually just remembered our Coach, Mike Smith, used to be your DC or something along those lines.

Best of luck to you guys on Friday and beyond. Hope the injury bug stays clear and away from you guys!

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by Caleb Rutherford on Aug 18, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed

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by Dave Choate on Aug 18, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks same to you,

but I hope Roddy White breaks a leg, and I don’t mean good luck.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhett

Come on dude, seriously?

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by Hellveto on Aug 18, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

but I hope they make have a great season.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

these guys come here and are nothing but complimentary and respectful and you type that crap?

Come on man! Twitter is just words, nothing else. Reminds me of your stupid comment you sent to Vic when he was about to leave.

Try to develop a filter, it’s gonna save you much embarrassment and several ass kickings in the future.

by Joe Fisher on Aug 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Vic thing was a joke

He never answered any of my questions, and I sent two questions, one congratulating him and good luck to him and his family, and the second was the hurry up and leave one, and of course he picked the leave one, it may have been first time i got a question on ask vic.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We get that a lot, these days

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by Dave Choate on Aug 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously I hope the Falcons

have a good season, but I want Roddy White to get nailed atleast twice, by Mathis and Landry, lucky Session isn’t playing, because it probably would happen.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roddy White is kind of integral to a good Falcons season

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by Dave Choate on Aug 18, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i hope he gets hurt

and somebody steps up, and has a 1400 yard season.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

How's MJD looking?

I have him in one of my leagues.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 18, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

he looks good

he came back from limited practicing, and is taking reps in team practices, he claims he doesn’t feel any pain, and he feels like it was 09 again, before the injury.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

thats just just what i read from a lot of people, so i should of wrote “i read he looks good”

sorry

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the 11 x 11, the right side of the o-line was collapsing on almost every play...

Guy Whimper should change his name to “Wimpy Guy”……..

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by FRANKdubz on Aug 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Question

Why has Rhett Crystal (BCC Commentor) not suggested we sign Flozell Adams, Sign Stylez White and bring in WR Terrel Owens?

Because you know, ALL his ideas are what the Jags should do.

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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 18, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

dude if your going to mention me spell my ****ing name right. CHRYSTAL

Now, TO is old, and didn’t he have that injury, he’s also got characters issues, but if he can play at the same level as year, statistically we have a #1, he started 11 games last year playing in 14, and had 983 yards, thats very good for some1 whos 37.

Stylez White is 32, and had only started a season last year, also with all our starters D-Line should be good. Due to his name, I feel he’ll have character issues.

Flozell is a proven player, he has only missed 14/198 games. But he is 36.

My honest opinion is that DE and WR should be fine, RT may need a patch, but Moll should be able to handle that until Britton comes back(hopefully healthy and playing better).

All though our secondary will be much better than last year, we have two SSs, and I think it would be smart to bring in a proven FS, but we should be fine with Landry and Greene, they will both hit hard, and tackle well, but at times may be liabilites against the pass.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatevs… I didn’t want to take the time to go look it up.

And stop being a titty baby, I’m just giving you a hard time. Sheeesh.

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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 18, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont think

they should sign evry1, all im saying is a FS would be good, so Landry can move to SS, and Greene can develop more, because the two SSs is a positive because they both hit hard and can tackle very well, but neither are good in coverage, making it also a weakness.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the problem is, is the demand is higher than the supply.

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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 18, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were not Gene Smith

I’m sure there are players out there, or who will be cut, who are completely under the radar, like Jimmy Smith was.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 18, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm… Okkk…

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by floridafalcons#63 on Aug 18, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now fans are starting to see what our WR corps is gonna be doing this year, I wonder how many are going to complain that we sign a free agent that’ll just make waves in our system?

The D-line doesn’t bother me, once Kampman and Pot Roast are back in they’ll both command a double team which isn’t really possible to do when it comes to a four man front leaving at least one of them to break free off the corner and/or Alualu to break free up the gut. Not to mention if we rush a safety or linebacker…

I’m not too worried about the O-line just yet either, don’t hit the panic button unless you really have to…

We’re looking rock solid once all the pieces are in place…

by Spoon2013 on Aug 18, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys probably think our front office whent batsh!t crazy

For that Julio deal huh? Can’t imagine who we could have gotten with our late pick otherwise that would bring immediate impact.

Is there real concern in Jax about being moved to LA?

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 18, 2011 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

No concern.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 19, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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