Strong showing for starting Jaguars defense against the Falcons
by Adam Stites on Aug 19, 2011 11:56 PM EDT
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PrintWhile the talk around the water coolers in Jacksonville will likely revolve around the performances of David Garrard and Blaine Gabbert, the performance of the first-team defense was certainly encouraging with the exception of one play five minutes into the 2nd quarter that resulted in a Falcons touchdown.
Despite being put in poor field position after a Brent Grimes interception return, the Jaguars defense was able to stop the Falcons to a field goal after giving up a first down to Michael Turner. The next Atlanta first down didn't come until Matt Ryan hit Roddy White with 11 minutes remaining in the 2nd quarter.
On the two drives prior, the Jaguars forced three and outs and a pair of punts deep in Atlanta territory. Perhaps most impressive was the front four defensive lineman for the Jaguars that managed to generate consistent pressure without blitzes. Tyson Alualu and Jeremy Mincey proved to be a strong pass rushing duo, pairing up to disrupt the Falcons passing rhythm on multiple occasions.
Also impressive was 2nd year linebacker Kyle Bosworth who started in the place of Clint Session. Earning the starting spot in the rotation after a strong performance in week 1, Bosworth helps to calm the thought that the Jaguars linebacking corps are thin after the starting three.
Lastly, the cornerback duo of Rashean Mathis and Derek Cox refused to give the talented pair of Roddy White and Julio Jones any separation. White caught his first pass of the game 19 minutes into the game and Jones didn't get a reception until the 2nd half.
While the defense certainly isn't as deep as the Jaguars would ideally like; the performance by the starters, minus Aaron Kampman, is encouraging. Against one of the NFL's top starting offenses, I'd even go so far as to say exciting.
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Matt Roth
Mincey looked really, really good. Matt Roth (been a long time since a #90 played well), looked really good in his limited snaps. In particular with a swim ove which got him right in Matt Ryan’s grill. The real story is #93 Alualu. That guy was incredible. If you watch the plays, he dominated! Matt Ryan had to side-step many times because of #93. Alualu is the real deal!
Guys
how well did monroe look and how has he fared in camp. all im hearing is that he is in good shape
Monroe
IMO he didn’t look very good and looks too thin to play his position.
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he’s 6’5’’ 308lbs. How is he too thin?
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by montanajagsfan on Aug 20, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
hahaha well I guess he needs to eat some cheeseburgers
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by montanajagsfan on Aug 20, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
With a completely different blocking scheme.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
point taken
but that’s only marginally relevant. Blocking is blocking – Broncos lineman 15 years ago still pass protected on 3rd and long the same way that every OL unit in the league does now. Our offense doesn’t seem to require our tackles to be road graders in the run game either… or else we would have drafted larger bodied tackles in the ’09 draft (and there were plenty).
I guess what I’m trying to say is don’t worry about Monroe at his present weight… only worry if he drops further.
Yep, but not anymore, he lost weight.
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I agree with you
He does look thin. Almost to the point where it looked like he has lost power. I wasn’t impressed at all with the first group offensive line.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
Never
Said I want him overweight.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
To me Roth looked good too..
He was disruptive and got some pressure. As for Lane, His play went from nothing to next to nothing, he did got few snaps though.
I loved what i saw from the defense, we haven’t looked that good since we played the Titans, ith the exception that our secondary with Mathis and Cox looked really good this time… this is what we should expect Mathis will play, and not makng excuses for him like “yeah, but that was Andre Johnson…but that was Reggie Wayne”… his play today was encouraging.
Except for the QB’s and the OL, we played pretty well.
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A thought
Just a thought I had on the jaguars offense today. Without MJD and Jennings the running game took a hit… as much as karim is a solid 3 or even 2 im not sure hes 1 material. Because the running game couldnt start we had to go pass pass pass thus the falcons defense could focus on pass rush instead of being so focused on stopping the run. Plus, with a lack of a running game gabbert at least had a lot of 3rd and 2nd and longs. Last week, especially on the opening drive he had support from the run game, and thus I feel was more confident
Had
MJD or Jennings been in there, the running game would have still sucked. Karim and the other backs were getting hit so fast I thought the Falcons were going to receive the handoffs at times.
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by Bestjagfan on Aug 20, 2011 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Had Mojo and Jennings played it would have been a domination… We would’ve gotten the W in preseason but wouldn’t have been able to test our new guys at all…
Thinking
We would have had a running game just because better backs were in there is ignorant. Our offensive line got worked all night.
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-Akrobatik
Exactly..... MJD would have been shutdown last night... And any other back not named Barry Sanders..
Our O-line was horrible on the Right side……. Run and Pass Blocking!
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 20, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
it was too fast, anytime Deji got space and didnt get smacked instantly he picked up yards.
by FgallosJAGS on Aug 20, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm
His longest run of the night was six yards…
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-Akrobatik
The first couple drives were good running wise.
after that it was terrible
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Aug 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Lack of running game hurt a lot on offense.
Garrard is not a “carry the team on my back” kind of QB, and Gabbert isn’t at that point in his development yet. Questionable decisions running the reverse with Shorts (led to a fumble) and putting Gabbert in something that looked fairly similar to his college spread offense in the 3rd quarter. Get that amateur junk out of the playbook. This is the pros.
When MJD and even Rashad get back in the lineup, both QBs will look better.
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by Brian Levenson on Aug 20, 2011 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
4 WR, empty backfield stuff, quick swing screens...
basically the idea that you can spread the field, throw flat across the line of scrimmage and get solid yardage out of it. Koetter was calling some of that for Gabbert in the second half and I thought it was a pretty lame offensive call. That junk doesn’t work in the NFL. Unless you’re Tom Brady. Not sure how the Pats get away with it honestly…
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by Brian Levenson on Aug 20, 2011 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
That was during the couple series where D-linemen were swatting passes left and right. Gabbert might’ve been more comfortable in the shotgun, I can’t say for sure, but I think he was more effective when he was under center.
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by Brian Levenson on Aug 20, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll defend those calls
I know on one in I believe the second quarter Gabbert tried to swing it out to his left to Cecil Shorts but the ball was knocked down by a blitzing corner. Had that been completed however we would be praising the call. Shorts had three blockers in front of him with about 30 yards of green.
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-Akrobatik
Ya but.....Gabbert has to anticipate that defender... You have to put some Arc on that throw.
He did it twice in a row…. No anticipation…. Just being hasty.. He nervous and only thinking about the play itself. Tunnel vision.. Locked on with out any peripheral vision…
He will adjust..It takes time..
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 20, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm
Defending the call by Koetter.
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-Akrobatik
OK.. Agreed.. Good Call...Poor execution.
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 20, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally
I think we should put Gabbert in those shotgun sets more often. He is more comfortable, and I hate the run, run, pass on third offense. I think QBs pass better when they are in rhythm and allowed to pass on all downs. Garrard included. He should be able to use his outstanding short accuracy more.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
we didnt do run run pass at all tonight
if thats what ur suggesting. koetter was pretty unpredictable
Yeah
I’m defending what Koetter threw together. I wish he would allow the offense to do that more often.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
reverses
have been a weapon for us in the last two years… that and it is preseason – may as well get the guys (Shorts) who haven’t run a reverse against in live action a yet a chance before we do the real thing
+1
People waffling depending on the circumstance. Had that gone for fifteen yards people would be praising Koetter’s creativity.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
That D-line looked good tho.
What a difference a 340-pound man makes. Knighton was eating two blockers for a snack.
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by Brian Levenson on Aug 20, 2011 12:28 AM EDT reply actions
The D
The D stole the show ……….it’s called too much Jag D-Line for that Falcon O-Line baby !!! …………… Jags D is back baby ……..It’s time for the Showstoppers baby !!!!
L F J
Would have liked to see Gabbert play more with the 1s...
Anyhow the Defense looks very good. Cox appears to have the capability of being a shut down corner. Mathis looked great.
Yep
just what I was thinking, mathis looked good, and cox is looking like his issues are in the past, only one preseason game(home) but I was impressed at our starters on d, our pass rush looks better, our corners looked good, and our rush defense looked like it could be in the top ten this year. I have followed the jags for years, even though I lived in other states(ohio, alabama) and I am seeing a big improvement AND NOW I AM HERE IN JAX, WITH SEASON TICKETS, AND I CANT WAIT TO GET IT ON- GO JAGUARS
Gabbert
played with the ones for most of the 2nd quarter against the Falcons 1st team defense and struggled. The second half against the Falcons 2nd string was any better… Looked like the rookie he is last night. He will get better.
Waiting for Relevancy...
potroast
I dont know about you guys, but to me, the guys that looked great were potroast and mincey, but yeah overall our starters looked awesome, I was amazed at how potroast was throwing guys off of him, and making the falcons RB’s look weak, he is the man!!!!, and our pass rush looked like it is going to be much better. On the down side our second teamers looked like they are needing some work, and again Lane looked weak. Mathis was also in good form, and cox looked better.
by zunklives on Aug 20, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Problem with Pot Roast is...
He needs to be in better shape or his game will suffer fastly through the season. He did look good staffing the run tonight but also looked very out of shape and a bit slow. His talent was enough to play well, also his huge belly.
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honestly
i didnt even know pot roast played til i got on here! he didnt do anything really, zunk i think u mean alualu when u say “throwing guys aside” alualu was simply amazing, every other play in the backfield stirring shiiiii* up
No Knighton was definitely eating up blockers and making plays in the run game
But Alualu was nothing short of amazing, constantly in the backfield and pushing the pocket back into Ryan’s face, I was extremely impressed.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Aug 20, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he was.. I saw a run to the left where he took on a double team and stuffed the run dead!
But I bet TK couldn’t have played the whole game like that…
Or the other guys for that matter.. They knew they were coming out early so you know they went full bore for a qt or 2… I don’t think they could keep that intensity up for 4 qt’s.. Not now, not with the limited camp.
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
stuffing*
"Do I need to be liked? Absolutely not! I like to be liked, I enjoy being liked, I have to be liked. But it's not like this compulsive need to be liked...like my need to be praised." Michael Scott
I was impressed by the D
… and yes, I’m excited about what they could do this year. Provided we don’t lose anyone to injury, of course. We still lack quality depth at too many positions to be able to be seriously competitive if we suffer any major injuries.
you guys need to lay off the crack .nothing looked “amazing”. alualu has a good motor but he didnt even get 1 sack. mincey was all over that shit. i wanna see some results. the jags have been bland for too long. quit jerkin these guys off
Sorry for being unpolite
But if you don’t think the defense looked anything but great tonight you need to learn a bit more about football. Sacks dont mean that much if the outcome of the pressure get’s such results as we had on defense tonight.
And please stop the unnecessary cursing.
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Did you go to the game?
Coverage was consistent and the dline consistently collapsed the pocket forcing Ryan to throw on the run. The first drive for Atlanta the defense wasn’t impressive but after that they played solid except for the Douglas TD.
Waiting for Relevancy...
The Dline got constant pressure and disrupted plays
Thats what you want, they are plenty of defenses that can get sacks but not constant pressure. Plus Ryan isn’t the kind of QB thats going to take a lot of sacks.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Aug 20, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I was really impressed with our defense...
…we completley dominated them in the 1st half, it was something like them having 2 first downs, and us having 9. With Knighton in there, Roth and Mincey had a great showing, Mincey I was extremley impressed with, he was in the backfield on every play. With Kampman back, Roth and Kampman with Mincey rotating in, will be great. Kyle Bosworth was very impressve, look for him to make the roster. And our CBs locked down there receivers. I can’t wait till week 1.
"thanks for hating"
Agree
Boss was good, but still we need backups at DL, DA Smith is slow to return.
And I realy don’t wanna see D.Jones at CB ever again.
Nate Collins
looks good.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 20, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Bosworth
I guess when you’re related to the Bos, you’ve gotta be a beast.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
MINCEY & ALUalu were the stars....
Tyson is a given, but Mincey has been a favorite of mine since last year.. Did you guys watch the post game interview with J-MInce? He said he studied game film of the tackle he was going up against and studied his tendencies and worked those against him in the game.. This guy is very dedicated more than ever now and I for one say he should start!
"SALTWATERJAG"
Roth is better
Roth was going up against a LT, Mincey was against a RT, but look for when AK comes off the field, for Roth to slide to RE, and Mincey to come in at LE. End rotation is probably gunna consist mostly of Kampman, Roth, and Mincey, with some of Morgan, and less of Hart and Lane.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 20, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree..........I don't care what tackle he was going against.. Mincey > Roth..
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 20, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope
Roth > Mincey. Roth was going against a better player,
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 21, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not automatic that the LT is the better player...Case in point Eugene Monroe..
Still take my stance on Mincey> Roth….
Mincey had more sacks at RDE last year in half a season than Roth did all year..
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 21, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Roth played OLB
good attempt.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 21, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And? He was rushing the passer most of the time.
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 22, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
two different positions though
Mincey played on a solid D-Line, and Roth played on a poor defense.
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by rhettchrystal on Aug 22, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
A solid D-Line? We got no pressure on the QB after Kampman went down other than J-Mincey..
And clevlends D was ranked higher than ours last year.
"SALTWATERJAG"
by SALTWATERJAG on Aug 22, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah um... Do you still think Roth is better than Mincey?
If so I feel for you…. Like I said Mincey>Roth.. Not even close..
Roth was awful.. Never even smelled the QB.
"SALTWATERJAG"
Agree about the D
D looked geat, especially up front. On offense I was really impressed with Shorts, he runs crisp routes and has great hands. Also, I want to see some more of the UDFA Dujuan Harris … I know he wasn’t going again their 1s but he looked so quick and made real good decisions. Hope he at least makes the practice squad.
Overall
I was impressed with the ressure the Jags got on that team. Only major thing I noticed with the D is majjor lacking of depth.
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