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Jaguars Offensive Line Needs to Gel

The Jacksonville Jaguars offensive line was supposed to take that next step in the 2011 season, with young tackles Eben Britton and Eugene Monroe expected to take that next step. They should finally be gelling with a veteran interior and really step up their game. Two games into the preseason, and the offensive line is still looking rough. Part of the reason it's looking rough is because it's not the line they expected to have.

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The loss of Vince Manuwai still looks like it could make the line take a big hit early on in the season. Blame him for being overweight or having a foot injury if you want, either way the loss still hurts. While I'm sure rookie Will Rackley will be just fine at left guard in time, he's struggled through the first two games in my opinion. That's not to be unexpected, however. He's a rookie and he's going to have to get used to playing next to Monroe and Brad Meester, to learn their tendancies. More so than any other unit, the offensive line is a "team" that has to work in unison.

The loss of Eben Britton for right now stings the most, most notably because you're not exactly sure when he's going to return. The team expects him to start week 1 of the season, but I have a hard time seeing a guy who struggled early in camp then went down with a back injury that required surgery rolling out there right away. Britton will have had no preseason whatsoever, so it will likely be a little rough in the first game he's back, whenever that is. I'm always leary of players having surgery on their back and short timetables. Typically, the timetable is longer than initially though. Britton could be ready week 1, but I'll believe it when he's on the field for the first snap. In Britton's absence, veteran Guy Whimper has taken the position for the lack of anyone else better. To be frank, Whimper has been pretty awful at right tackle, but the team seems to like him quite a bit for whatever reason.

Third year left tackle Eugene Monroe has been solid, as he has been in the past. The problem is however, he still has some brain fart mistakes that allows pressure on the quarterbacks blind side. I don't think Monroe is a concern or a liability on the offensive line, but he still has some issues with technique on some plays that will need to be hashed out before he can take his game to the next level and be the left tackle the team wants him to be. He's in phenominal shape, so he's able to recover from some of the technical mistakes he does make, but that won't always be the case going up against premier pass rushers.

Brad Meester is locked in at the center position, in what's likely his last season with the Jaguars. Meester is in the final year of his contract and I've been waiting for that day when his age catches up and his play takes a nosedive, but it's yet to happen. I thought he was done for after his second biceps injury a few seasons ago and he struggled when he came back, but Meester is a hard worker and got himself back up to a high level of play. There's not currently anyone on the roster who can really push him for his job, but at this point it's not necessary.

I do think there is a potential position battle brewing at right guard, however. Incumbent Uche Nwaneri has always been one of the better guards in the league when he's on his game, but the problem is that he's always been a bit inconsistent. He's been inconsistent in camp so far and it seems like newly acquired Jason Spitz is trying to make a run for the starting position. I don't think Nwaneri will relenquish the spot, most notably because he just signed 6-year $25 million contract last September, and it's hard to sit that money on the bench. I think Spitz would have to significantly outplay Nwaneri to take hold of the right guard position.

Typically the offensive line will look a bit rough in the preseason without much gameplanning and will look better once the first week rolls around, but with all the shuffling and new bodies, it might take a bit longer than that.

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How much of Uche's money is guaranteed ?

The details of his contract on rotoworld seem a bit off.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

He’s not getting cut, if that’s what you’re trying to figure out.

It was $8.5 guaranteed, iirc his 2011 salary is only $711,000

by Alfie Crow on Aug 23, 2011 9:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I figured he wouldn't get cut

It’s not like he’s become a liability on the line. But if the guaranteed portion was smaller, it would be easier to sit him until/unless he improved his play.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nwarni

Is inconsistent? Perhaps I’ve never watched him long enough to notice. To me, its seemed like he’s the only guy who can protect and create holes in the same drive, but maybe I’m way off here.

So what happens if we get to the season without Britton? Are there any decent tackles left out there in the FA world? I’m not a big “spend because we have the money” guy, but if Whimper is starting over the other guys I’m kinda nervous about those other guys.

by Mr.Awesome on Aug 23, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't get to see enough plays to say anything with certainty

but based on what I saw vs. Atlanta, Whimper was pretty decent.

by Jagsrok9008 on Aug 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't agree more about

what I’ve seen out of Whimper but I guess we’ll have to trust the coaches if it comes to that.

We should get a better idea of things this week since they’ve said they will be putting in a game plan and we can see if they shift more help to his side when needed. Stinks to have to do that, but beats getting one of the QB’s killed.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

This kind of depressing considering that

This was supposed to have been the first thing fixed since Gene took over. 2 new tackles, Uche signed long term, and now Rackley being drafted. The only thing we were supposed to be waiting for was Meestersreplacement.

by JagSoldier on Aug 23, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I hope Manuwai is training hard,

even if his foot still hurts, go on a diet, and swim all day.

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by rhettchrystal on Aug 23, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Rackley Struggles??

Ok, your opinion is Rackley struggled. Where? Name the plays many of us have the preseason replay. Let’s see the plays were he struggled. Especially in the Atlanta game.

In fact your whole statement that the O-line struggled is based on what? I thought they struggled more last week. I thought they played pretty solid against Atlanta. Yes there were times when all out blitzes got someone in, but I never saw anyone come in untouched.

For instance in the second offensive play of the game the Falcons blitz heavily on the right side, and they still give him enough time to get the pass off.

Another example, the fumble by Shorts in the backfield. I think that wasn’t on o-line it was on Potter, he totally misses his block and the guy comes untouched into the backfield.

And again you hammer on Whimper. I thought Whimper was very solid in this game, in fact more solid than Monroe. I saw maybe 1-2 plays where he didn’t do quite as well as he could have. But not that many. Can you name some plays in the Atlanta game where he doesn’t perform? He did have two GLARING bad ones against NE of course in the second quarter. but overall not that bad.

Just curious where you saw it because I didn’t see it. I thought they looked pretty solid. Not great yet, but not a HUGE area of concern, less so than it looked last week.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 23, 2011 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

My reply is below....

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the Atlanta game, collectively the QB’s were sacked 3 times and hit 8 times. In the New England game, collectively the QB’s were sacked 4 times and hit 6 times.

Struggled doesn’t mean terrible.

by Alfie Crow on Aug 23, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stats?

Your proof of Rackley/Whimnper struggling is the stat line. Hello Kuharsky? Is our d-line worse than last year because we have no sacks? Tyson Alualu a huge first round bust? Let’s take a look at the 3 sacks.

1. 1st-10, JAC47 1:51 D. Garrard sacked by K. Biermann and S. Weatherspoon

The two guys who get there first come around the outside. Rackley does fine with his guy. Whimper actually throws his guy to the ground. And I would pin the outside guys on Lewis and Karim coming out of the background should have chipped his guy. Although I suppose that Whimper could have come back out when the DT stunted to the outside. But it’s not Rackley at fault here. And of course DG has a guy wide open up top if he just plants and throws.

3rd-3, JAC36 5:53 B. Gabbert sacked by J. Babineaux

This one is all on Monroe. Watch the tape. The DE and the DT do a delayed stunt. Monroe barely gets a hand on his guy and gets shoved aside. And then Rackley picks him up after Monroe lets him go. Now Monroe is supposed to get the DT. But because he is so off balance Monroe lets him through and it’s the DT that makes the tackle. Rackley looks better than Monroe in this play. Whimper shields his guy outside of the play, so I thought he handled that one pretty well too.

3rd-9, ATL47 12:06 B. Gabbert sacked by P. Jerry

I didn’t bother to figure out who was in on this one. Because it’s late in the game and all new guys are in there.

So again Alfie I ask you, where exactly have you seen Rackley struggle? I mean I expect 2-3 mixups each game even for vets. But in my humble opinion he’s NOT been struggling. I have no problem if you can back it up by telling me, “Watch this, this is all on Rackley here.”

Although I’ll give you that they looked worse in NE. I just don’t have the time or energy to look up those sack plays.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 23, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

"but I never saw anyone come in untouched"

There was a play in the ATL game where the LB and a DB came in on the left and Monroe and Rackley both blocked a single D Lineman, the FB picked up the LB and the DB came in un-touched. Sure, it was a blitz, but had they communicated better they had enough people to block it.

It was a running play that went for a 4-5 yard loss.

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhh but isn't that a communication issue?

I’m assuming you mean this play(from my play by play analysis):

1st-10, JAC30 13:43 D. Karim rushed up the middle for 4 yard loss

I think the Falcons must have been listening in on the call. They send a LB and a safety around the left side right where Deji wants to go. I think as well that this is perhaps a misread by the O-line. Both Will Rackley and Monroe go after the same guy and no one picks up the blitzing safety. Greg Jones stones his LB of course but the safety is untouched.

Now is that a player who needs work, or an O-line who needs to communicate better and “gel” as Alfie says in his original post. There was actually another play later on in the game that they had the same issue.

I have no issue with the idea that the O-line needs to gel. I think some of this has to do with time working together. Do you guys remember how bad it was with some of our past O-line where they would get beat play after play by the same guys? I’m seeing Rackley produce for the most part. A few communication issues, ie he should have gotten guy A versus guy B. But not Rackley gets beaten like a drum by guy A. Does that make sense? Do you see where I’m coming from? I’m not seeing him getting beat in the trenches on the one-to-one battles. But I agree he does need some time to gel with his teammates so everyone is where they should be.

What I do have issue with is two of his assertions.

1. That Rackley obviously struggled.
2. That Whimper is horrible at RT.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 23, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just watched the play again

I just watched the play again. The blitzers came on the outside of Monroe. So was that one on Rackley or Monroe?

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 23, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I wasn't blaming Rackley

I was disputing your statement saying “but I never saw anyone come in untouched”

Here's hoping we have NFL football in 2011

by pksiv on Aug 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Oesher today- although I know this topic is "dead"
I am really surprised with Will Rackley starting. How is he shaping up? Is he a better pass or run blocker?

John: He is good at both, and the Jaguars are ecstatic with his early progress. What he has done thus far is remarkable for a guy who had no OTAs and no mini-camps.

by Atl- Jags Fan on Aug 24, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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